Which team list would you least want?
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Even after supplementing!!
If you look at lists purely by age demographics North and West Coast have the most players in the 27 and older age bracket suggesting that both sides are very much in win now mode for 2020. Pretty worrying sign for North seeing as they are a fringe top 8 side as of last year.
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We only have 4 over 29, according to that other thread about covering older players
Which team is in the most trouble replacing its aging players? - 2020 edition
So this is a thread I have been creating for the last few years as I think it is an interesting topic where we compare the older players of each club, the ones getting closer to retirement and see what youth each club has to potentially replace the older stars. So basically does a team have...
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one of the least in the league
We only have 4 over 29, according to that other thread about covering older players
Which team is in the most trouble replacing its aging players? - 2020 edition
So this is a thread I have been creating for the last few years as I think it is an interesting topic where we compare the older players of each club, the ones getting closer to retirement and see what youth each club has to potentially replace the older stars. So basically does a team have...
one of the least in the league
15 over 27 though. I missed Geelong though they have 17
West coasts prospects 2020 Yeah!!
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Well excuse me! I've never been so insulted in my life. Just because I reckon Melbourne have a s**t list and the worst coach in the comp, does not mean i'm a troll. My post in the thread was just another post that most can cope with, without embarrassing themselves. I'm very disappointed you feel that way. Maybe you need to grow some balls, then any criticism of your club wont become so personal to you. And you can deal with it like an adult.
I wouldn’t put it past Melbourne to s**t the bed this year either mate, but that’s pointing out the obvious. But to say a team is poor because “player A is a hack” or “player B is soft” as well as the “coach has no idea” without providing evidence isn’t really a “truthful assessment” tbh.
I'm very disappointed you feel that way. Maybe you need to grow some balls, then any criticism of your club wont become so personal to you. And you can deal with it like an adult.
You're spot on about them needing to be in "win now" mode, especially when you take into account that not only do they have that many who are 27yo or older, but that all their very best players are currently 27yo+.
Age by the end of this season:
32- Higgins, Goldstein
31- Tarrant
29- Cunnington, Ziebell, Daw, MacMillan, Pittard
28- Jacobs
27- Brown, Polec
9 of the top 10 in their B&F came from that group.
Very little to get excited about in the currently 22-26yo group (hence only Dumont cracking the top 10 in the B&F), and by the time their currently 21yo and under group (who have shown promise, but are as yet almost all "unproven") are coming into their prime years, the likes of Higgins, Goldy and Tarrant are likely to be gone, and with Cunnington and Ziebell on what may be their last legs.
They wouldn't need much to go wrong to be in a pretty dire place.
If on the other hand they managed to pick up a mid-career "superstar", say this year, that could propel them into genuine premiership contention, but of course they've failed at all their attempts to do that in recent years, and will presumably continue to do so, if it looks like they're really not going anywhere fast.
In my opinion, this question needs more context.
Is the question "which list would you want least for 2020?" or is it "which list would you want least looking at the next 3-5 years?"
For example; I wouldn't want Gold Coast's list going into 2020, they have almost no chance of being competitive for a full 22 week season, but I can see a good team forming from that squad if they stay together over the next 3-5 years and develop that squad of players successfully.
On the other side, I like the look of Geelong's list going into 2020, should be a strong contender for Top 4, and maybe a genuine flag contender if they can get some improvement from their middle tier players. But looking at their list in 3-5 years time, with their very best players all closer to the end than the middle of their careers, it's not the most desirable position to be in, thinking long term.
Is the question "which list would you want least for 2020?" or is it "which list would you want least looking at the next 3-5 years?"
For example; I wouldn't want Gold Coast's list going into 2020, they have almost no chance of being competitive for a full 22 week season, but I can see a good team forming from that squad if they stay together over the next 3-5 years and develop that squad of players successfully.
On the other side, I like the look of Geelong's list going into 2020, should be a strong contender for Top 4, and maybe a genuine flag contender if they can get some improvement from their middle tier players. But looking at their list in 3-5 years time, with their very best players all closer to the end than the middle of their careers, it's not the most desirable position to be in, thinking long term.
Yeah I think North’s best bet for success is for a few of their top youngsters to break out from promising to genuinely good AFL players this season and take the comp by surprise.
If all or most of LDU, Simpkin, Thomas, Zurhaar and Larkey take a step forward and their aging players don’t drop off too much then I can see North really making a good fist of it this season. Beyond 2020 is the concern for North.
Yet they beat Richmond. They also beat Collingwood, Hawthorn and the Bulldogs. Its a weird game isn't it, or is it?
The frightening part about it is I think he thinks that too.
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Given the fact that the financial bonanza that the Grand Final provides directly benefits the 18 clubs the very idea of reducing capacity ( and revenue) is absurd. The shortfall in ticket sale ( competing club members) and corporate income would have to be made up by charging Super Bowl like prices to those fortunate enough to have access to a ticket. And those people would be fortunate indeed as there would be less tickets available.
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Yeah I totally get why it is structured this way. If we as supporters recognise the inequity of having the Grand Final in Victoria and leave it at that until there is a viable solution then I think that’s OK. Some Victorians totally choose to ignore that this is a problem because of how many Premierships non-Victorians have won but I don’t think it is assessing the situation for what it is.
I think the Richmond vs West Coast game in the end likely decided who was going to win the premiership. And maybe Richmond's top 4 finish also cost Geelong a shot at the premiership as well. Geelong fought hard in the first half but were always going to get run over. West Coast finishing 5th cost them dearly just like Adelaide in 2016 = same thing. At least the Eagles won a premiership in 2018, Adelaide - don't get me started.
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Charging Super Bowl level of prices would still be better than paying literally thousands for overinflated flights and hotels on top of the ticket
Yeah, the North list is pretty awful. They're in a bit of trouble I think. Where are the Goldsten, Higgins, Tarrant replacements? They found a few good young players in 2019 but will need a lot more. Can definitely see North stranded in the bottom 4 for a few years from 2021 onward.
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Gold Coast are a revolving door of talent, reflecting wider cultural issues and lack of leadership. Many of their young guns will be good in 3-5 years time, but will they still be playing for the suns?
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WC shot themselves in the foot by losing to Hawthorn at home in the last round which cost them a top 4 spot. They potentially could have played Brisbane away in a QF, then had an easy ride into the grand final.
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It’s no secret our strong points in our list are our 27 and older and our under 21s
We have some serious mature talent and nice up and comers
the 22-26 range is the issue but there’s still some handy role players there like Atley, Marley Williams, McDonald, Dumont, Garner, Turner, Ahern and Wood.
Ideally we get a free agent who is 26 to join that middle group and or trade one of our 2 first rounders for someone in that range
Our under 21s in Larkey, Zurhaar, LDU, Simpkin, Bonar, Curtis Taylor, Bailey Scott, Tarryn Thomas have me very excited
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