Which two teams will drop out of the 8 next year and why?

[Veer Right]

As the title suggests.

Two-three teams every year fall out of the eight. I suggest only two next year.

So who moves backwards?

 

[Veer Right]

2019 final 8 entering the finals

Geelong
Brisbane
Richmond
Collingwood
West Coast
Gws
Bulldogs
Essendon

 

[Coaster2012]

No obvious candidates. Maybe Brisbane with a harder draw. Maybe the Dogs. Essendon is a wild card, but I'm predicting a top 4 position for them.

 

[kane249]

Essendon

If I had to pick a second team one of Geelong or Collingwood

 

[B4Bear]

Essendon and Collingwood.

Essendon just aren't very good. They are weak in the middle and have a KPF who doesn't want to be there, or is perpetually injured.

Collingwood seem to have been up there for years, just feel that they will be a little bit slower next year, and with the competition so even that might be enough to tip them out.

 

[GoldStandard]

I think the Dogs will drop out because they usually struggle to win enough games to make finals to begin with. I tend to think midfielders are a bit overrated in general, so while the Dogs have a strong midfield I don't think it will translate into success. They don't have a ton of talent at either end of the ground, Naughton has showed a bit but has proven he can't carry a forward unit. The Giants will drop out as well because I don't think they're that well coached, they've brought in all these culture type players like DeBoer, Sam Reid and Daniel Lloyd but I think the Giants were at their best in 2016 when all their guns were kicking over 100 points regularly.

 

[timokane]

make it three Essendon gws and it pains me to say it but collingwood

 

[SSSSSS]

Think Brisbane will have a down year.

 

[timokane]

same but gws will to I feel time for a downer for them

 

[timokane]

got Richmond as the only top 4 certainity

 

[BuffDog]

Essendon - hardly deserved to be there this year

 

[Wojcinski]

Essendon and Collingwood

Essendon are still an 8-12 side and while they'll be around the mark I think they'll miss in 2020 with no obvious improvement.

Pies are my smoky but like Geelong, their season showed many inconsistencies and couple with an aging list might see them fall.

 

[B4Bear]

same but gws will to I feel time for a downer for them

AFL would change the finals to Top 8 + GWS if this happens.

I can imagine them, allowing Toby Green the latitude to do anything, well, not really, but you get my drift.

 

[Milanista28]

We will easily make it and probably win it.

 

[Ok Boomer]

Richmond and Collingwood I would have thought.

 

[Hamingja]

got Richmond as the only top 4 certainity

Richmond, WC & GWS have all had bad runs over the last couple of years and still made finals and/or won flags. They would be the only 3 that I would be confident on definitely making the 8. Anyone else could miss quite easily.

Which teams would you categorically rule out from making the 8? Honestly at this stage it would only be GC and Freo for mine.

Carlton, St Kilda, North maybe unlikely but with an easy draw, some improvement, and a good run with injuries it is not impossible for them to bounce.

Adelaide and Port looking pretty cooked but they still have some talent on the list.

 

[Bazza97]

I think Richmond and West Coast are very safe bets for top 8, I have them in the top 4.

GWS and Collingwood I feel will at the very least make the top 8, possibly top 4.

Bulldogs are interesting, they're a popular pick to make top 4 and I reckon they have the potential to do so, think they will do enough to play finals although I have more trust in teams like the Tigers, Eagles, Giants and Magpies who have played finals in consecutive years.

Loved what Brisbane was able to achieve in the H&A season this year, but I think they will drop next year. Personally, I'm tipping them to miss finals in 2020. Will be interesting to see how they fare in 2020 after a big improvement this year.

Geelong I think will drop as well. However, I believe they will still do enough to finish within the top 8.

Essendon is a team with potential, but for mine, there's a real possibility they slide out of the top 8 in 2020. There's a fair bit of talent on their list, but they're a pretty unconvincing team still so at this stage I'm tipping them to drop out. So right now, I have Essendon and Brisbane missing out in 2020 although my opinion may change before the season starts.

 

[gandaal]

If I was to pick 2 it would be Essendon and GWS.

Brisbane might do a Melbourne but they never had the underlying issues that Melbourne had, and have a far better coach.

 

[CarnTheScray]

I reckon Essendon, and GWS to be the second team to drop. But tbh any team outside of the top 2-4 is susceptible to fall.

 

[tigers_of_old_08]

Brisbane and Essendon. Because.. they won’t win enough games to get into the 8.

 

[GoldStandard]

I reckon Essendon, and GWS to be the second team to drop. But tbh any team outside of the top 2-4 is susceptible to fall.

So you're guaranteeing Brisbane not to drop out then? They did have a pretty good run with injuries this year.

 

[CarnTheScray]

So you're guaranteeing Brisbane not to drop out then? They did have a pretty good run with injuries this year.

They won't drop out but won't be top 4.

 

[Nuke Fremantle]

Essendon have been borderline 8 (at best) for years and I can't see that changing. OUT.

Brisbane 2020 have Melbourne 2019 written all over them. By the way, I think they got excused way too lightly for dropping consecutive home finals. OUT.

Interesting that already people are mentioning Collingwood. I think they look pretty solid but the wildcard could be the unsettling effect if negotiations drag on for Grundy-DeGoey-Moore.

 

[My Tilly]

Essendon and Collingwood.

Essendon just aren't very good. They are weak in the middle and have a KPF who doesn't want to be there, or is perpetually injured.

Collingwood seem to have been up there for years, just feel that they will be a little bit slower next year, and with the competition so even that might be enough to tip them out.

They made the finals without him playing for most of the year.
What if he happens to play 15 games.

I think they have a lot of improvement, mainly with injured guys set to return next year. Stewart, Daniher, Smith will be three crucial ins.

 

[GoldStandard]

Essendon have been borderline 8 (at best) for years and I can't see that changing. OUT.

Brisbane 2020 have Melbourne 2019 written all over them. By the way, I think they got excused way too lightly for dropping consecutive home finals. OUT.

Interesting that already people are mentioning Collingwood. I think they look pretty solid but the wildcard could be the unsettling effect if negotiations drag on for Grundy-DeGoey-Moore.

That's what I'm worried about with Collingwood. There will be a lot of noise about that during the season.