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Yes i agree and after last night it is something i would reconsider.
Who are your team's most important 5 players currently?
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Gov, JK, Yeo, Shep and shuey for me
I think that's why he's not the most important, because of Barrass and our other solid defence options. For example I'd prefer Barrass as our number one key defender (no McGovern), over Darling as our number one key forward (no Kennedy). And basically if we lose a top midfielder the quality drops away more quickly.
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Think you nailed it. But my order would be...
1. Nic Naitanui
2. Josh Kennedy
3. Elliot Yeo
4. Luke Shuey
5. Shannon Hurn
Top 4 is definitely the top 4. You could argue number 5. Maybe McGovern or Darling.
1. Tom Stewart. Without him we would not be even in the top 4 right now. Nothing gets past the guy.
2. Mitch Duncan. His importance is under valued. He is the main link up player in the team and his foot skills are vital.
3. Patrick Dangerfield. Missed finals the year before he came then made 2 prelims. Had a lingering injury last year and we scraped into the 8. One of the best players in the comp even though his disposal at times can be average.
4. Mark Blicavs. Have become the best defence in the comp since he moved to fullback which explains it all really. Plays on the number 1 forward every week and also can be an rebounding attacking option with his foot skills.
5. Tim Kelly. Has been so instrumental this season so hard to leave him out. Stoppage work has become elite this season, and he just hurts teams going forward every time its in his hands. Shame if he goes.
2. Mitch Duncan. His importance is under valued. He is the main link up player in the team and his foot skills are vital.
3. Patrick Dangerfield. Missed finals the year before he came then made 2 prelims. Had a lingering injury last year and we scraped into the 8. One of the best players in the comp even though his disposal at times can be average.
4. Mark Blicavs. Have become the best defence in the comp since he moved to fullback which explains it all really. Plays on the number 1 forward every week and also can be an rebounding attacking option with his foot skills.
5. Tim Kelly. Has been so instrumental this season so hard to leave him out. Stoppage work has become elite this season, and he just hurts teams going forward every time its in his hands. Shame if he goes.
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I'm surprised by the Essendon supporters having Fantasia so high. I get he's a great player, no disputing that. But this isn't about best, it's about most important.
With the Bombers I reckon it's more Hurley, Daniher, Bellchambers, Hooker.
As we've seen with Richmond, losing FB, FF, Ruck just kills you. Bellchambers might not be their BEST player, but he is a big unit, and he's bloody important.
I think all sides can lose a gun mid or two for a period and cover that much better than a ruck/KPP.
With the Bombers I reckon it's more Hurley, Daniher, Bellchambers, Hooker.
As we've seen with Richmond, losing FB, FF, Ruck just kills you. Bellchambers might not be their BEST player, but he is a big unit, and he's bloody important.
I think all sides can lose a gun mid or two for a period and cover that much better than a ruck/KPP.
Hurn
Gov
Shuey
Yeo
Darling (put him because if he is on we are a 3 goal better team, when he is off we become very one dimensional)
Gov
Shuey
Yeo
Darling (put him because if he is on we are a 3 goal better team, when he is off we become very one dimensional)
Nic is a bonus player for us, we can win it with him or without him.
1. Hooker
2. Fantasia
3. Hurley
4. Daniher
5. Merrett
2. Fantasia
3. Hurley
4. Daniher
5. Merrett
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Port's a bit difficult given the up and down form of some, and some have replaced people who were very important....
The list would have to include Boak, Dixon, Lycett
Gray is an obvious candidate, we have alot of depth in the backline so I'm reluctant to pick one (in the past Jonas would be it)
Ryder has definitely been covered with Lycett.
Dixon isn't replaceable at all. Boak is just a gun on and off the field, deserves success.
Ryder, Jonas and Hoff all could have been in this last season.
The list would have to include Boak, Dixon, Lycett
Gray is an obvious candidate, we have alot of depth in the backline so I'm reluctant to pick one (in the past Jonas would be it)
Ryder has definitely been covered with Lycett.
Dixon isn't replaceable at all. Boak is just a gun on and off the field, deserves success.
Ryder, Jonas and Hoff all could have been in this last season.
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Oh hang on, that's next year's top 5..
And Clarko would make 6.
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Oh hang on, that's next year's top 5..
And Clarko would make 6.
We turned around from a team that couldn’t win without him, to a team able to cope without his influence. We were lucky though that we had Lycett & Vardy have their best months of footy last September to cover.
We are still vulnerable to teams with strong inside games. I don’t think it’s a coincidence our 4 losses this year- (Brisbane, Geelong, Port & Sydney) were against sides with strong inside games. When we don’t have a ruckman giving us first access we have struggled to gain ascendancy in the middle.
I think JK is our #1 most important player, but Nic is a very close second IMO.
So for mine, it’s:
1. JK
2. Nic
3. Yeo
4. Shuey
5. Gov
1- Marcus Bontempelli
2- Jason Johannisen
3- Caleb Daniel
4- Sam Lloyd
5- Aaron Naughton
Basically anyone who goes against instructions and kicks more than they handball, sorry to
Matthew Suckling you know you are on my real list the one I can't type out due to all the
hate and potential incrimination.
2- Jason Johannisen
3- Caleb Daniel
4- Sam Lloyd
5- Aaron Naughton
Basically anyone who goes against instructions and kicks more than they handball, sorry to
Matthew Suckling you know you are on my real list the one I can't type out due to all the
hate and potential incrimination.
We are also very vulnerable with Nic against someone like Grundy, what Vardy and Lycett did last year against Grundy and Gawn in the finals is play one on one against them and not let them become a link player. Nic has never been that player and probably never will be. Not a knock on Nic it’s just the way it is. On the upside Nic gives us more first use of the footy out of the centre and st stoppages.
Nah we can’t win it without Shuey, Yeo, Hurn in my opinion
Positives and Negatives, really. I’d prefer us to get the ball out of the centre. With the new rules and our decent forward line, quick entries are crucial. Best defence is a good offence and all that. A player like Grundy can’t link up if we keep getting the ball out of the centre.
I hope we find a way to really use Hickey in that role, basically tagging the star ruckman. Hickey is strong athletically and not the worst tap ruck going around. I think once the dust settles they will compliment each other well. Especially if Hickey can improve his forward craft to be useful when Nic is in the ruck.
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