Roast Who should be our next coach? [melty]

[Rick Ross]

not at the start of the year but half way through i thought we'd at least make the 8. thought the players/coach learned from last year

It’s not the losses that burn, it’s the hope.

 

[The Donners]

to be fair the top ups were the very definition of recycled old players

So it fast-tracked Essendon’s strategy all at once?

 

[Kong]

What he does do, is tell your team they're 8 years off being winners. That type of shit has a huge impact on a club mentally. Look at our actual worst enemy, Sam Mitchell. Do you think that's the kind of language he uses on his playing group? No.

I barely follow off field commentary and even I know that isn't what he said.

How are so many people still misconstruing the 8 year thing? Do we need to create and sticky a thread that clearly shows what he said?

 

[Red Black and Blue]

I actually do not think we have a better list.
As for losing to the GC twice or the Saints . That is what average sides do.

Agreed. List is all relative to the ability to execute a game plan. You could grab 22 AA's, throw them together and not make a good team because they don't complement each other. We have a bunch of players that could be part of successful teams, but not together.

 

[ant555]

Pretty sure Scott only said they had a core of players that will form the side in 8 years.

 

[Lore]

Pretty sure Scott only said they had a core of players that will form the side in 8 years.

Building the core of the side for the next 8 years, which is a comment on list build and club culture more than coaching but melters gonna melt

 

[yodellinhank]

Building the core of the side for the next 8 years, which is a comment on list build and club culture more than coaching but melters gonna melt

Why Bombers’ polarising eight-year plan after ‘20 years of pain’ is complex amid ‘massive disconnect’

‘Cop out’: How Dons’ eight-yr plan after ‘20 years of pain’ created ‘massive disconnect’

www.foxsports.com.au

Essendon fans should be really excited that outside of a few veterans this group has the potential to play together for the next eight years, and I include Gresham, Duursma and McKay in that.

“The nucleus of what we have got is here. That is where the bulk of improvement is going to come from."

 

[div12ressie]

Bump

my votes for James Hird

 

[JayJ20]

We need John Longmire to do a Paul Roos at the rate we're going.

 

[eth-dog]

Bump

my votes for James Hird

Sure, let's bring back the coach who almost killed the club. That's definitely not the answer

 

[ant555]

Bump

my votes for James Hird

How about.

NO.

 

[ghostdog]

Bump

my votes for James Hird

I've never seen this many red thumbs.
Chin up. It's just BF.




And gtfo with that Hird nonsense.

 

[ghostdog]

In my view we're too early into the rebuild to be blaming the coach. Look at our players. Martin, Perkins and Tsatas were all poor defensively yesterday. McGrath is competent 50% of the time. We have a 30 year old Shiel playing + Laverde and Goldstein on the list. And Parish. And Cox.

Martin needs to be better defensively but probably gets a pass because he's an offensive weapon. A pass. Should he be in the leadership group if you want the group to develop a defensive mindset? Probs not.

Tsatas gets a pass because he's young and probably not a known quantity yet.

The rest of those players named are a reason we're stagnating. No coach is going to extract more from them. But because we also have a dearth of leadership in the playing group we also can't just cut all the deadwood all at once. Maybe this is what Brad learned after axing Petrie, Firrito, Dal Santo and Harvey at the same time. How long did that set North back? And our deadwood is worse than those four players. We'd love Boomer Harvey in the side right now.

Our problems run deeper than the coach. A good lot of our list are treading water and we couldn't cut all in one.

I still think we should target Kinnear Beatson. Team him up with Rosa.

 

[ant555]

In my view we're too early into the rebuild to be blaming the coach. Look at our players. Martin, Perkins and Tsatas were all poor defensively yesterday. McGrath is competent 50% of the time. We have a 30 year old Shiel playing + Laverde and Goldstein on the list. And Parish. And Cox.

Martin needs to be better defensively but probably gets a pass because he's an offensive weapon. A pass. Should he be in the leadership group if you want the group to develop a defensive mindset? Probs not.

Tsatas gets a pass because he's young and probably not a known quantity yet.

The rest of those players named are a reason we're stagnating. No coach is going to extract more from them. But because we also have a dearth of leadership in the playing group we also can't just cut all the deadwood all at once. Maybe this is what Brad learned after axing Petrie, Firrito, Dal Santo and Harvey at the same time. How long did that set North back? And our deadwood is worse than those four players. We'd love Boomer Harvey in the side right now.

Our problems run deeper than the coach. A good lot of our list are treading water and we couldn't cut all in one.

I still think we should target Kinnear Beatson. Team him up with Rosa.

Two list managers. Outside the box

 

[ghostdog]

Two list managers. Outside the box

Doesn't necessarily have to be in a managerial role in his declining years. He specialises in list strategy and has a proven record though and would be an invaluable mentor for Rosa.

 

[ant555]

Doesn't necessarily have to be in a managerial role in his declining years. He specialises in list strategy and has a proven record though and would be an invaluable mentor for Rosa.

Idea is good. Think that is the role Rohan O’Brian has now. Former Eagles list manager.

 

[Calthorpe14]

Bump

my votes for James Hird

Apart from the fact that he hasn’t coached his own side since 2015 and his only involvement in footy since then is a 10ish game, part time assistant role with GWS, why?

 

[ghostdog]

Idea is good. Think that is the role Rohan O’Brian has now. Former Eagles list manager.

Did he build the 2018 list?

 

[ant555]

Did he build the 2018 list?

He was at the Eagles for over 20 years. Recruiting manager then list manager and yes he was there for 2018.

 

[crackers65]

Did he build the 2018 list?

Nah, 23,24,25 list

 

[div12ressie]

You guys might not agree with Hird coming back but I bet the players would all be on board. It's inevitable...

 

[eth-dog]

You guys might not agree with Hird coming back but I bet the players would all be on board. It's inevitable...

There are 3 players on our list that were on the list last time Hird coached. A second year Merrett and a first year Langford/Laverde.

Just stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[div12ressie]

There are 3 players on our list that were on the list last time Hird coached. A second year Merrett and a first year Langford/Laverde.

Just stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[BomberManU]

Is there some sort of admin option where any post that mentions 'hird+coach' is auto deleted?

 

[jmoo wan]

There are 3 players on our list that were on the list last time Hird coached. A second year Merrett and a first year Langford/Laverde.

i wish we had a coach that could develop players like Hirdy developed Merrett