Played under Malthouse tooGF wins with the bombers, lions as a player and coached by the best in Sheedy, Mathews. i don't know how many
other coach in waiting have been involved on and off the field with that much Grand Final experience.
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Played under Malthouse tooGF wins with the bombers, lions as a player and coached by the best in Sheedy, Mathews. i don't know how many
other coach in waiting have been involved on and off the field with that much Grand Final experience.
Neesham was way before his time with us.i disagree & put Neesham in a different boat from those other fellas.
Connolly was IMO a great assistant, but should never have gotten the main job. His use of the bench was ground breaking & is still in play, but other than that, I reckon he was one of the "clones".
Allan was a caretaker, so I don't know why he was named.
Drum was again, one of the run of the mill types.
As for my original post, I suppose I'm feeling deflated about our predicament & can't see light at the end of the tunnel. I'm not expecting a flag in the next 20 years, but a lot of that comes from constant disappointment with our beloved team.
My post was meant to incite some left field suggestions as we haven't cracked it with the safe options for coaches.
We've got heaps of players who would have been coached by Sumich and he would be incredibly well known at the club, yet there seems to be no indication that anyone would even consider him. He really is not an option.Apologies for the intrusion ,guys but from what I've heard in earlier days Sumich did not want to leave the West for family reasons as did not want to interrupt his kids schooling. Also have heard about the Sumich/Lyon stoush - from what I heard Sumich told Lyon "if he spoke like that to him again he would throw him out the window". Would loved to have been a fly on the wall if true!
Don't let the way Sumich talks fool you as he has a very good football brain from all accounts. You could do worse as underneath he is Freo through and through having played for & coached South Fremantle in the past and didn't he take South to a premiership? Also the only thing I've heard is he is a hard task master but many who have been coached by him give him rave reviews that he managed to get the best out of them as players. Make of this what you will as looking from outside in it appears that Ross could be the problem? Also sometimes coaches get stale - like Woosha did with us at the end.
Anyway let's hope you get it all sorted one way or the other as very frustrating for your members and supporters which includes one of my closest friends.
so if your kid burns down his school locker or hits his sister in the head, you can't criticise him?
what if your best mate, who you love, rooted your girlfriend? don't criticise him?
you're the biggest namby-pamby on here. you defend Fremantle regardless of anything. completely refute any criticism. but you do it in a way that burns and attacks the man at the other end. you preach love and bong smoking but you're completely vicious towards those with differing opinions. no one here wants Ross Lyon to get AIDS or for the grandstand to fall on Steve Rosich: people just want them out of their job so the club can improve and jump to its potential. but you get personal, undermine people's support, and raise this card of 'well I love the club... you don't...!'
The problem was we were so desperate to get in the AFL we rushed a team in with a small budget, crappy facilities and thought we would be clever and get a local coach who although he had an attacking flair and revolutionised interchange ala his water polo background did not have the experience of leading and coaching an AFL team. The most important appointment we should have ever made from Day 1 was the senior coach, if we had done and got someone like Blight, Matthews, or Pagan we may have got a good handful of talented, experienced AFL players that could have laid the foundations for much greater success instead of relying on triers like Ridley, Hutton, Delaney, Watters, etc,Neesham was way before his time with us.
He played attacking footie in the same way they do today at many clubs.
Remember always that his players were a quickly thrown together bunch.
We tripped over on the start line whilst starting late with a tight quad that turned into a hamstringThe problem was we were so desperate to get in the AFL we rushed a team in with a small budget, crappy facilities and thought we would be clever and get a local coach who although he had an attacking flair and revolutionised interchange ala his water polo background did not have the experience of leading and coaching an AFL team. The most important appointment we should have ever made from Day 1 was the senior coach, if we had done and got someone like Blight, Matthews, or Pagan we may have got a good handful of talented, experienced AFL players that could have laid the foundations for much greater success instead of relying on triers like Ridley, Hutton, Delaney, Watters, etc,
Add Kepler, Scotty Chisholm & Willsy to the mixView attachment 719013
Clean house and Clive to take on all positions - Coach, Captain, CEO, Chief of Recruitment, Head of Media Relations, Doctor, Runner, Waterboy, Bus Driver, Mascot and so on.
Maybe squeeze Pav in somewhere as an intern or something.
Neesham got too many of his ex players from claremont, rather than building from ground up. I used to love claremont then so i liked freo, but it was a great wafl team , s**t afl teThe problem was we were so desperate to get in the AFL we rushed a team in with a small budget, crappy facilities and thought we would be clever and get a local coach who although he had an attacking flair and revolutionised interchange ala his water polo background did not have the experience of leading and coaching an AFL team. The most important appointment we should have ever made from Day 1 was the senior coach, if we had done and got someone like Blight, Matthews, or Pagan we may have got a good handful of talented, experienced AFL players that could have laid the foundations for much greater success instead of relying on triers like Ridley, Hutton, Delaney, Watters, etc,
Add in Specialist Skills coaches x 2 - maybe 1 for kicking and 1 for tacklingHypothetical:
Bell walks into Ross’s office and says, Mate, if things don’t change your dead in the water. Here’s what we are going to do. Where going to empty out the Footy Dept, All area’s and your the last man standing (except players). Now who do we need to go and get.
Anyone want to fill in the names with the best available:
Senior Assistant
Forwards
Mids
Backs
Sports Science
Strength and Conditioning
Recruiting
Development
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If we kicked to our player on a lead instead of the opposition, we wouldn't need the forwards to be full time defenders.Any coincidence two of the most criticised teams at the moment, us and the Crows share the inability to lay forward half pressure.
I think Neesham was an excellent choice. The problem was the lack of support around him; An experienced assistant, decent recruiting staff, admin etc.The problem was we were so desperate to get in the AFL we rushed a team in with a small budget, crappy facilities and thought we would be clever and get a local coach who although he had an attacking flair and revolutionised interchange ala his water polo background did not have the experience of leading and coaching an AFL team. The most important appointment we should have ever made from Day 1 was the senior coach, if we had done and got someone like Blight, Matthews, or Pagan we may have got a good handful of talented, experienced AFL players that could have laid the foundations for much greater success instead of relying on triers like Ridley, Hutton, Delaney, Watters, etc,
Another article in the Worst today on the Subi V Perth WAFL game last night.Add in Specialist Skills coaches x 2 - maybe 1 for kicking and 1 for tackling
The problem was we were so desperate to get in the AFL we rushed a team in with a small budget, crappy facilities and thought we would be clever and get a local coach who although he had an attacking flair and revolutionised interchange ala his water polo background did not have the experience of leading and coaching an AFL team. The most important appointment we should have ever made from Day 1 was the senior coach, if we had done and got someone like Blight, Matthews, or Pagan we may have got a good handful of talented, experienced AFL players that could have laid the foundations for much greater success instead of relying on triers like Ridley, Hutton, Delaney, Watters, etc,
you're *ing weird dude.so if your kid burns down his school locker or hits his sister in the head, you can't criticise him?
what if your best mate, who you love, rooted your girlfriend? don't criticise him?
you're the biggest namby-pamby on here. you defend Fremantle regardless of anything. completely refute any criticism. but you do it in a way that burns and attacks the man at the other end. you preach love and bong smoking but you're completely vicious towards those with differing opinions. no one here wants Ross Lyon to get AIDS or for the grandstand to fall on Steve Rosich: people just want them out of their job so the club can improve and jump to its potential. but you get personal, undermine people's support, and raise this card of 'well I love the club... you don't...!'
Fremantle only in name.Only 2 coaches applied for the job, Ken Judge and Neesham no one else would touch it with a barge pole. No experienced AFL players would go near a start up club with no club rooms to speak of. We were handed a poison chalice.
On 6PR this morning it was suggested that a few inside the Freo hierarchy are keen on getting Brad Scott in as coach if Lyon departs.
If this were to happen I would microwave my imaginary membership.
On 6PR this morning it was suggested that a few inside the Freo hierarchy are keen on getting Brad Scott in as coach if Lyon departs.
If this were to happen I would microwave my imaginary membership.