Who should replace Nathan Lyon?

[eth-dog]

Explain three other West Australians in the squad?

The funniest part about it is that Murphy's had a very good FC season.

Murphy (in 5 FC games): 13 wickets, average 22.08, ER 2.56, SR 52.62
Rocchiccioli (in 6): 20 wickets, average 28.2, ER 3.17, SR 53.3

Rocc has more wickets, something you can literally attribute to bowling more overs due to having less players taking wickets off of him, with Gannon taking 24 the only player in the top 20 wicket takers of his teammates, compared to Perry (22), O'Neill (17), Elliott (16) and Boland (14) all having excellent seasons so far as well.

 

[dumb]

Blatantly spitting in the face of shield cricket picking Murphy over Roccicchioli.
Sends the message that shield performances don’t matter, we’ll pick our favourites regardless.

All a bit bazball ish really.

already done that with doggett

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

already done that with doggett

Doggett has been killing it in the Shield for like three years

 

[Black Diamond]

The funniest part about it is that Murphy's had a very good FC season.

Murphy (in 5 FC games): 13 wickets, average 22.08, ER 2.56, SR 52.62
Rocchiccioli (in 6): 20 wickets, average 28.2, ER 3.17, SR 53.3

Rocc has more wickets, something you can literally attribute to bowling more overs due to having less players taking wickets off of him, with Gannon taking 24 the only player in the top 20 wicket takers of his teammates, compared to Perry (22), O'Neill (17), Elliott (16) and Boland (14) all having excellent seasons so far as well.

There is a lot more than pure stats and arguing over a few runs to an average here and there. Particularly with spinners. There are two with test experience who have shown something, who I would rather keep investing in.

 

[dumb]

Doggett has been killing it in the Shield for like three years

maybe, but not killing it as much as o'neill or mcandrew

 

[Freo Big Fella]

You mean where Murphy has a vastly superior average and economy rate, and a very similar strike rate?

I’m no mathematician, but 161 wickets @ 30 generally beats 119 @ 34. Particularly when you factor in the WACA being far from a happy hunting ground for spinners generally.

Again, no issue with them picking Murphy - but the narrative emanating from Victorians that he’s somehow miles better than Rocc is somewhat disconnected from reality.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

maybe, but not killing it as much as o'neill or mcandrew

Yeah good shout on both of those but we know why Fergus hasn't been given a go

 

[eth-dog]

I’m no mathematician, but 161 wickets @ 30 generally beats 119 @ 34. Particularly when you factor in the WACA being far from a happy hunting ground for spinners generally.

Again, no issue with them picking Murphy - but the narrative emanating from Victorians that he’s somehow miles better than Rocc is somewhat disconnected from reality.

In reference to this season:

The funniest part about it is that Murphy's had a very good FC season.

Murphy (in 5 FC games): 13 wickets, average 22.08, ER 2.56, SR 52.62
Rocchiccioli (in 6): 20 wickets, average 28.2, ER 3.17, SR 53.3

Rocc has more wickets, something you can literally attribute to bowling more overs due to having less players taking wickets off of him, with Gannon taking 24 the only player in the top 20 wicket takers of his teammates, compared to Perry (22), O'Neill (17), Elliott (16) and Boland (14) all having excellent seasons so far as well.

But keep changing the goalposts

 

[Freo Big Fella]

In reference to this season:

A point you were very quick to add after your initial post (given the fact that Rocchicioli’s taken more Shield wickets at a lower Shield average isn’t in doubt.)

You’re lucky Shield form only matters when Bailey and McDonald want it to.

 

[eth-dog]

A point you were very quick to add after your initial post (given the fact that Rocchicioli’s taken more Shield wickets at a lower Shield average isn’t in doubt.)

You’re lucky Shield form only matters when Bailey and McDonald want it to.

I was clearly referencing this season from the start...

 

[Docker82]

I was clearly referencing this season from the start...

I don't understand why certain people are so worried about what state a player is from. I just want Australia to win.

It was so obvious they would go with Murphy and I don't know why (state bias aside) anyone would have an issue with the selection.

 

[Around the Wicket]

I think they’ll all get a go post Lyon, just like post Warne, every spinner got a opportunity and Lyon took it, may the best man win, Murphy deserves first chance

 

[swanssince2002]

Just watched a video of the spinner merry go round post-Warne and goodness we really dug deep into the spinner stocks. Some only getting 1 test appearance. One of them becoming generational batsman called Steve Smith.

Lowest point being the 2010/11 Ashes. Now that was a merry go round in itself. Heres hoping we can find that guy quickly post Lyon...

 

[icyflakes]

I don't understand why certain people are so worried about what state a player is from. I just want Australia to win.

It was so obvious they would go with Murphy and I don't know why (state bias aside) anyone would have an issue with the selection.

I agree, it was always going to be Murphy - we're already making 3 changes to the side, why would an extremely safe selection group decide to add a debutante into the mix? Especially when the G is Murph's home ground.

I don't get the state based noncery around it - these selectors have consistently shown they want safety first - picks like Konstas were complete outliers and were specifically targeted.

 

[Patron]

Murphy the youngest, and probably the best bat of the candidates. When the bowling ability is close between them, its not surprising they've gone with the youngest candidate, who can contribute down the order with the bat and would be playing on their home ground.