Who was the best Prime Minister?

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Sqotty from office works said:
Keating
Howard
Hawke
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definitely the top three

these guys modernised Australia in a sensible sustainable way.


Gough, highlighted by others, definitely gets a mention but if to remember him accurately, he we reckless and dangerous man. Who would ever contemplate bankrupting Australia by owning high risk assets and borrowing from dodgy sources?

His achievements are also questionable as he followed the US on medibank and exiting the war.

Equal pay was granted to women but they still couldn't continue when married and couldn't get bank loans. So job not even half done.

Aborigines fate sealed with the poorly handled legislation resulting from the wave hill walk off. The decision was right but the execution poor resulting in the drug and alcohol issues that plague the communities today. Note the Libs own this mess to.

The anti-discrimination laws have carve outs, enabling racial discrimination to continue by state and federal governments.

Allowed Painters and Dockers and the Builders Labourers Federation to thrive......thank F for Hawke who stood for no nonsense even within the Labor party members.

The revalue of the currency was not an achievement. Floating the currency was an achievement and that was Hawke.
 

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HBF said:
PJK!
Enough said.
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if it was the "recession we had to have"...........we can also describe Paul as "the arrogant prick, we had to have"

Between Hawke and Keating they had the "arrogance" to achieve great things that the nation needed. To think the Labor party was responsible for deregulating the currency and opening up Australia to the world, in a political party backed by unions, is incredible but also hard to fathom how.

Howard gets credence for being the stable hand after such great but turbulant reforms under Keating/ Hawke and the GST. He is wrongly pointed out for being the beneficiary of a mining boom and China, but in reality the mining boom did't kick in until 2007 (under Rudd). The economic kick under Howard was the momentum created since 1983.
 
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For me, Curtin, Hawke then Whitlam.

Each of them substantially shifted the direction of the country - Curtin away from England towards the US, Hawke away from insularity to an open economy and Whitlam from narrow-mindedness to openness.

I'd lump Keating in with Hawke because they were such a partnership, rocky as it was at times.
 
Bombermania said:
In order of being PM

Top 8:
Deakin
Fisher
Curtain
Menzies
Whitlam
Hawke
Keating
Howard

Bottom 6:
Hughes
Bruce
McMahon
Rudd
Abbott
Morrison
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deakin did a lot of great work, but also helped institutionalize a lot of our prejudices
 

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Howard started the rot and culture wars that are destroying our political environment today in earnest, and institutionalised middle class welfare that is ******* the younger generation today.

He should be near the bottom.
 
Historical -1 Curtain (a giant in WW2 pivot to the US to save the nation and handed Chifley the keys for further reform
2, Whitlam a true reformer came in with a blaze of glory but was exactly what the country needed at the time. Reforms still lasting and set the country on a much needed path
3, Fraser shaped the nation. Multiculturalism and immigration. Pushed ahead

My life
1 Hawke- set economic reforms up that lasted 30 years. Modernised as well as a crucial pivot with things like Antarctica and environmental protection
2 Keating, unlucky as the empire was dying but set a big picture and to spite his smart arseness had the economy on the way back in 96
3 Gillard- wrong time right place. NDS and could've done a lot more but smoked Rudd off the back of a mining tax needed. Streamlined things but hobbled by the old guard of ******* mysginosts
4 Howard- Iraq war not withstanding we were in thrall with them and negotiated a out of harm's way approach. Stimulated prosperity
5 Rudd- turbo charged an unsustainable housing market + big Australia and in thrall of 24/7 news. Apology was a national highlight but just couldn't delegate
6 Morrisson- * all but at least tried tried been operative word to stand against the insanity of our shithead premiers and this insane covid response. 50 mill AZ purchase is a black mark (given they had to be chucked due to initial reactions and replaced with psfyszer and a new az batch)
7 Abbot - nearly created a crime wave with his insane no unemployment ever policies and destructive policies. Avoids last by having the stones to call in the ctu squad in the Sydney siege after 12 hours after NSW police were too squeamish to deal with a terrorist
8 Turnbull- Country went totally backwards setting the shitshow for what is today and our plucking at the hands of global events and the disunity of Federation. We have been picked apart from inside out to the point Dan "media advisors with a touch of dictatorship# Andrews and Mark "fly the WA black swan at every opportunityn" McGowan are default running this backward country now
 
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Doss said:
Howard started the rot and culture wars that are destroying our political environment today in earnest, and institutionalised middle class welfare that is ******* the younger generation today.

He should be near the bottom.
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Testify brother. He should be put in stocks.
 
Gough said:
Testify brother. He should be put in stocks.
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He was a lucky country though, losing the popular vote but winning the election, then there was Tampa and finally Mark ******* Latham
 
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Father Jack said:
He was a luck country though, losing the popular vote but winning the election, then there was Tampa and finally Mark ******* Latham
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i still love the story about how Latham literally changed the education platform of the party on the car ride to the venue - to announce the education platform of the party

thats the moment the wheels officially fell off the wagon
 
Ned_Flanders said:
i still love the story about how Latham literally changed the education platform of the party on the car ride to the venue - to announce the education platform of the party

thats the moment the wheels officially fell off the wagon
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A lifetime ago a young Shane Sheridan was very good friends with Mark Latham's current wife. A wonderful woman is Janine but how she ended up with him is one thing I just don't understand.
 
We probably put too much focus on individual Prime Ministers rather than their Governments. What's the differentiation between the three losers who have just been Prime Minister? It's one Government, and the leadership just a cosmetic change to give a new sheen to the same turd.

Anyway, the answer's Gough. Curtin/Chifley and Fisher the other good ones.
 
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