Prediction Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Hawthorn?

[CarmenSandiego]

Just say 2-3 usual game winners lost their position. this 'tagging. argument is semantics (not your fault)
your critiquers seem to be ignoring that wiz's opponent got 5 coaches votes

in an 18 a side game others pick up the slack. Moorey/Meek got us off to a great start which was the difference in the end

Yes, just sounds like silly semantics & expressions.

I personally wouldn't call defensive fwd roles a tag, or lockdown ones. Just midfield ones.

Maybe I'm old though.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

**** yeah.

I got tagged my whole career in the Ressies (when I played down fwd).

New flex coming up.

Unfortunately, I had a few tagging roles myself .

If you played reserves you barely had a gameplan, let alone any idea about handing over players in transition.

 

[TheFourPillars]

If you played reserves you barely had a gameplan, let alone any idea about handing over players in transition.

It's like they are sprouting a badge of honour about playing football.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

What if I told you it was VFL ressies????

I’d say you were talking crap.

 

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[Strapping Young Lad]

Thats a very immoderate introduction from a person who likes to hang a moderators tag on themselves - to make things even funnier is that you seem totally oblivious to the notion of a team playing man on man and having players accountable for their direct opponent- or perhaps if we wish to take the discussion further - a hybrid combination of man on man and zone depending on whatever a coach might like to see whenever they choose to see it..

PS spare me and the reader of the thread generalisations about Carlton supporters - take it to the Bay or your own board if you want to slag off .

FMD, man on man simply means 1 player takes an opponent, instead of space or a zone.

Teams play man on man most weeks without having a dedicated player who’s job it is to follow a player anywhere and everywhere. That’s a tag.

I won’t make generalisations about Carlton fans if the Carlton fans in this thread stop wearing their lack of footy knowledge like a badge of honor.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

FMD, man on man simply means 1 player takes an opponent, instead of space or a zone.

Teams play man on man most weeks without having a dedicated player who’s job it is to follow a player anywhere and everywhere. That’s a tag.

I won’t make generalisations about Carlton fans if the Carlton fans in this thread stop wearing their lack of footy knowledge like a badge of honor.

Dude, cut it out.

A Hawks poster was chest beating saying that Dean Cox deployed 3 taggers against the Hawks, which is so unheard of in modern day footy its not funny.

It's semantics but it can easily be construed that a defensive fwd role or another non-midfield lockdown role is not a tag.

If it were so cut and dry, then the argument of 'is team xxxx going to tag?' or 'why don't coaches tag more these days?" would have never have happened - because lockdown & defensive fwd roles have been around forever.

And re: the ressies pisstake - I played at a decent level and no coach (two of them are AFL assistants now), never used the term tagging for the aforementioned roles.

If you want to claim your team is that good that the opposition needs to tag 3 players, then fine. But don't act like it's some obvious argument and everyone else is stupid for questioning it.

 

[JustaBattler]

FMD, man on man simply means 1 player takes an opponent, instead of space or a zone.

Teams play man on man most weeks without having a dedicated player who’s job it is to follow a player anywhere and everywhere. That’s a tag.

I won’t make generalisations about Carlton fans if the Carlton fans in this thread stop wearing their lack of footy knowledge like a badge of honor.

Read the post above - I'm too busy laughing at your ignorance wearing the clothes of arrogance to be bothered spelling things out in nice block letters for you.

 

[peetoo]

Dude, cut it out.

A Hawks poster was chest beating saying that Dean Cox deployed 3 taggers against the Hawks, which is so unheard of in modern day footy its not funny.

It's semantics but it can easily be construed that a defensive fwd role or another non-midfield lockdown role is not a tag.

If it were so cut and dry, then the argument of 'is team xxxx going to tag?' or 'why don't coaches tag more these days?" would have never have happened - because lockdown & defensive fwd roles have been around forever.

And re: the ressies pisstake - I played at a decent level and no coach (two of them are AFL assistants now), never used the term tagging for the aforementioned roles.

If you want to claim your team is that good that the opposition needs to tag 3 players, then fine. But don't act like it's some obvious argument and everyone else is stupid for questioning it.

Whatever you call the wizards opponent, he got 5 coaches votes which elevates the Discussion

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Read the post above - I'm too busy laughing at your ignorance wearing the clothes of arrogance to be bothered spelling things out in nice block letters for you.

You’re doing anything but laughing.

 

[Mr Meow]

Looks like some Hawthorn supporters are set to replace me this season on the Carlton crew's hit list.

Enjoy!

 

[peetoo]

Fact remains we are stoked at getting the win at the scg early season. It’s a rare away win.
In fact Carlton’s record there is abysmal in any stage of the season over many years.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Looks like some Hawthorn supporters are set to replace me this season on the Carlton crew's hit list.

Enjoy!

Not me i have checked out of this argument

 

[I got the outside word]

Looks like some Hawthorn supporters are set to replace me this season on the Carlton crew's hit list.

Enjoy!

For the past 29~ years the top of their hit list has been their season.

 

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[Blackhawk42]

Tim who?

Chol is one of those athletically gifted guys who promises the world & fails ….albeit spectacularly.

He is Mr Almost.

Luckily for Hawthorn, Chol still impacts the scoreboard. 37 last year was a very solid return for his first season at the club.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Remember the discussion about small forwards

That was fun, we did tell you

 

[HawthornHawk]

Remember the discussion about small forwards

That was fun, we did tell you

Francis Evans looked good

 

[Fadge]

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Don't worry, they've got the lowly Hawks next week...

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Don't worry, they've got the lowly Hawks next week...

Omg how tasty is that [emoji39] [emoji7]

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[WalshistheGOAT]

So if the Blues come out and beat the Hawks next week are we spuds or flag chances?

 

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[WalshistheGOAT]

We'll take 1 and 1 with a percentage of 126% after 2 games against 2 x top 4 teams from 2024.

How are Kodak tracking?

Beautifully, got our mulligan game out the way early and ready for the Hawks next week.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The previous thread got merged accidentally, so wosh is going to find the posts and add them back in here.

 

[Wosh]

I’m going to lock it while I work on it.

 

[Wosh]

Dear Carlton/Hawks friends (and the rest of you)
I’ve restored as much as I can find for now so please carry on, I’ve handed the thread to Strapping Young Lad so feel free to blame him for everything

Thank you.

 

[threesixpio]

Pick swap looking pretty sweet so far. Early days but …

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Thanks Wosh

We really need to give you something better to do with your time.