Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Chronz]

This thread is about 2025.

 

[Worm4]

There's been plenty of it, not our fault you either choose to ignore it or don't understand it.

But Carlton have peaked beautifully. Three consecutive seasons of 12, 13 and 13 wins to 'contend' for a top 8 position, without getting anywhere near premiership contention.

Now they've taken a step back to plan for the medium term, at a time when their top 6 players (a top 6 that Carlton rely on more than any other club in the competition) are in the prime of their careers.

Magnificently played, Carlton - you never fail to disappoint.

Pies had less wins than Carlton this season, yet you continue to sell to all and sundry that they are already contending in 2025

 

[Scritchyscroony]

And wasn't it magnificent!

They really do not get this list management thing, do they?

Recruit Fantasia, keep him, shove Owies out the door after a career best season. Bloos are always good for a laugh.

SOS was really angry with Carlton. Still is.
I wonder if he did it deliberately.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

And wasn't it magnificent!

They really do not get this list management thing, do they?

"Needle movers" and "role players" [emoji106] [emoji38]

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[Arr0w]

This has been fun, plenty of delusional material to look back on for next year

Hope the pie supporters enjoy the rest of what's left of the tacos, don't eat too much though, harder to try and tunnel under that new wall

 

[Worm4]

This has been fun, plenty of delusional material to look back on for next year

Hope the pie supporters enjoy the rest of what's left of the tacos, don't eat too much though, harder to try and tunnel under that new wall

Don't mention Mexican food some might find it offensive ( apart from Lachie Schitz )

 

[Fadge]

Pies had less wins than Carlton this season, yet you continue to sell to all and sundry that they are already contending in 2025

Incorrect, as usual.

 

[Pistol Night]

Don't mention Mexican food some might find it offensive ( apart from Lachie Schitz )

This is truly sick burn guys. I’ve given up eating nachos and tacos and refuse to drink tequila now. And I just chucked my sombrero in the wheelie bin

 

[Fadge]

This is truly sick burn guys.

Especially coming from Carlton supporters, whose median ladder position since the turn of the century is 13th - which is more like Bolivia than Mexico.

 

[Fadge]

"Needle movers" and "role players" [emoji106] [emoji38]

Not to mention 'POD'

 

[Arr0w]

Especially coming from Carlton supporters, whose median ladder position since the turn of the century is 13th - which is more like Bolivia than Mexico.

Turn of the century again? You really are struggling

Started that tunnel yet?

 

[Arr0w]

Incorrect, as usual.

What?

Oh boy

 

[Arr0w]

Whether they finish 18th, 15th, 12th or 8th, my overarching prediction is that they don't have the list to genuinely contend for the premiership.

And on that, I have been right every year since I joined BigFooty in 2007.

 

[JustaBattler]

"Contend" - the fudgey buzzword for " I dont really have a clue but I do hate Carlton"

onya fudgedabacus - - keep up the raaaaage!

 

[carlton_99]

"Needle movers" and "role players" [emoji106] [emoji38]

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Not to mention 'POD'

Not sure why anyone would be bothered with the use of these terms...

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Not sure why anyone would be bothered with the use of these terms...

It's just funny, "two of these" and "one of those", sounds like you're baking a cake [emoji512]

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[Arr0w]

Pretty straight forward I would have thought, give Essendon two extra gimme wins and they make finals...they dont need to beat Carlton, just North and Richmond.

It doesn't mean Essendon are a better team.

Penny might drop at some point, probably around the time you realise Carlton haven't had a 21st century top4 finish.

It is pretty straightforward, if the Pies beat either the Suns, Dockers or Bombers, they would have played finals

In the end, we bridged that 5 game gap pretty easily, wouldn't you say?

 

[Worm4]

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For someone who has been right every single year, I must take my hat off to him. I mean , how did he tip collingwood to finish 17th in 2021 ? He must have cleaned up financially on that one ( hate to be turning away from 2025 but when one references the past, it's hard not to go back to refer at times)

 

[Fadge]

It's just funny, "two of these" and "one of those", sounds like you're baking a cake [emoji512]

Could it be the cake they've been cooking up since 2011?

I think they forgot to include the self raising flour...

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think Carltons list has better top end talent. Naicos aside Carlton has more star power. Pies probably better depth across the 22 and a smarter coach with a more cohesive game plan.

Line by line each has their strengths. I'd rate the backlines similar. Carltons has better inside mids. Pies better outside mids. Pies much better small/medium forwards. Carlton much better talls. TDK more talented then Cameron in the ruck but yet to put a season together.

Big questions for me is can Carlton keep close to their best 22 on the park and how much do the Pies veterans regress?

For me that will go along way in determining who finishes higher next year. I think it could either way.

Beyond 2025 though I would prefer Carltons list just due to the age demographic issue.

 

[The Airing of Grievances]

So after 41 pages we now know that Blues fans think Carlton will be better and Collingwood fans think it will be Pies on top. Whoever would have thought?!
Disclaimer: I didn't read every page , just extrapolated from the first and last 4. Keep having at it though guys, sure it will be equally enlightening.

 

[Cyclops]

Carlton "heehee Pies are Mexico"
Also Carlton [get beaten twice by Collingwood]

So are you Guatemala (nice but a bit irrelevant) or are you the US ( in for 4 more years of Clown World)?

So after 41 pages we now know that Blues fans think Carlton will be better and Collingwood fans think it will be Pies on top. Whoever would have thought?!
Disclaimer: I didn't read every page , just extrapolated from the first and last 4. Keep having at it though guys, sure it will be equally enlightening.

You have trouble reading? Brother stay in your lane.

Essendon people are boring, Pies are uneducated and Carlton are failure addicts, either smarten up or get your Collingwood seasons ticket.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

I think Carltons list has better top end talent. Naicos aside Carlton has more star power. Pies probably better depth across the 22 and a smarter coach with a more cohesive game plan.

Line by line each has their strengths. I'd rate the backlines similar. Carltons has better inside mids. Pies better outside mids. Pies much better small/medium forwards. Carlton much better talls. TDK more talented then Cameron in the ruck but yet to put a season together.

Big questions for me is can Carlton keep close to their best 22 on the park and how much do the Pies veterans regress?

For me that will go along way in determining who finishes higher next year. I think it could either way.

Beyond 2025 though I would prefer Carltons list just due to the age demographic issue.

Waaaay too sensible for this thread

 

[Scritchyscroony]

So after 41 pages we now know that Blues fans think Carlton will be better and Collingwood fans think it will be Pies on top. Whoever would have thought?!
Disclaimer: I didn't read every page , just extrapolated from the first and last 4. Keep having at it though guys, sure it will be equally enlightening.

Enlightening post.
Posters are aimlessly bantering in a banter thread. Who would have thought

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Could it be the cake they've been cooking up since 2011?

I think they forgot to include the self raising flour...