Prediction Who will reach their milestone first - Hawkins or Cameron?

[winty]

Just noticed on AFL tables that Tom Hawkins

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Tom Hawkins

Age

35

Ht

197cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.9

4star

G

2.1

5star

D

12.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.1

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.2

5star

has kicked 673 goals in his career, 27 away from his 700th goal, while Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

is currently on 474 goals, 26 away from his 500th.

So what do we think will happen first - will Tom reach his 700th before Jezza kicks his 500th, or vice versa?

 

[cats_09]

Jezza, with Tom providing the goal assist for about a dozen of them

 

[krided]

I'd say Jezza but he can seem a bit fragile and doesn't have enough involvement and consistency as Hawkins.

 

[Turbocat]

Id probably wonder who will finish their career with more goals.... I think Cameron will get more ball and is a very good convertor... but Hawkins durability has been extraordinary.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Consensus here. I’d have Hawkins 10 times out of 10. But if Jezza came around my door, I might let him in.

Jezza, with many Hawkins assists.

 

[#cats2021]

Hawkins.

 

[PhatBoy]

Consensus here. I’d have Hawkins 10 times out of 10. But if Jezza came around my door, I might let him in.

Jezza, with many Hawkins assists.

It’s nice to see in the media and in neutral supporter discussions that he’s starting to be appreciated for what he is - seems to be a bit of a consensus that he’s probably the best all round forward of the last decade behind buddy

 

[Sky]

It’s nice to see in the media and in neutral supporter discussions that he’s starting to be appreciated for what he is - seems to be a bit of a consensus that he’s probably the best all round forward of the last decade behind buddy

They’re closer than people think between 2013 & 2022. Lance Franklin has had 4 AA’s and 2 Coleman’s in that time compared to Hawkins 3 AA’s & 1 Coleman but Buddy also played in two more grand finals in that time frame.

Hawkins kicked 504 goals since 2013 from 203 games. Assisted 181 goals.
Averages out to 3.37

Franklin kicked 482 goals since 2013 from 150 games. Assisted 137 goals.
Averages out to 4.126

The highest scoring players beside Franklin over the past ten years are Roughy (72), Tippett (34), Tippett (44), Papley (29), Papley/Reid (30), Hayward (28), Papley (37), Papley (26), Papley (43) and Heeney (9) for about 35.2 goals per year. Since I’m counting 2013-2021 he’s been pipped by a teammate 3 times with 2022 yet to be seen.

The highest scoring players next to Hawkins were Motlop (44), Bartel (27), Stevie J (30), Motlop (38), Danger (45), Menzel (27), Ablett (34), Rohan (22), Cameron (39), Cameron (8) which is 31.4 goals a season. Hawkins has been our top goal scorer for the past 9 years (10 actually) so hasn’t been beaten once. Wonder if Jezza can stop Hawkins from going 10/10 and 11 straight club leading goalkicker awards?

Always the possibility I messed up somewhere but doubt it. Both are guns.

 

[PhatBoy]

They’re closer than people think between 2013 & 2022. Lance Franklin has had 4 AA’s and 2 Coleman’s in that time compared to Hawkins 3 AA’s & 1 Coleman but Buddy also played in two more grand finals in that time frame.

Hawkins kicked 504 goals since 2013 from 203 games. Assisted 181 goals.
Averages out to 3.37

Franklin kicked 482 goals since 2013 from 150 games. Assisted 137 goals.
Averages out to 4.126

The highest scoring players beside Franklin over the past ten years are Roughy (72), Tippett (34), Tippett (44), Papley (29), Papley/Reid (30), Hayward (28), Papley (37), Papley (26), Papley (43) and Heeney (9) for about 35.1 goals per year. Since I’m counting 2013-2021 he’s been pipped by a teammate 3 times with 2022 yet to be seen.

The highest scoring players next to Hawkins were Motlop (44), Bartel (27), Stevie J (30), Motlop (38), Danger (45), Menzel (27), Ablett (34), Rohan (22), Cameron (39), Cameron (8) which is 31.4 goals a season. Hawkins has been our top goal scorer for the past 9 years (10 actually) so hasn’t been beaten once. Wonder if Jezza can stop Hawkins from going 10/10 and 11 straight club leading goalkicker awards?

Always the possibility I messed up somewhere but doubt it. Both are guns.

Was actually looking this up today - No player has kicked more goals in the last decade than Tom and certainly no one has contributed as many.

Since 2012 (so the last 10 seasons plus 3 games this year)
Riewoldt 519 goals + 173 assists = 692
Franklin 541 + 133 assists = 674
Hawkins 558 + 200 assists = 758
Kennedy 531 + 104 assists = 635

 

[My Tilly]

They’re closer than people think between 2013 & 2022. Lance Franklin has had 4 AA’s and 2 Coleman’s in that time compared to Hawkins 3 AA’s & 1 Coleman but Buddy also played in two more grand finals in that time frame.

Big difference when it comes to finals time though.
2.9 goals & 0.9 assists per 25 finals games vs 1.6 goals & 0.6 assists per 29 finals games.

It's nice of our supporters to dream about an alternate reality though.

 

[Sky]

Big difference when it comes to finals time though.
2.9 goals & 0.9 assists per 25 finals games vs 1.6 goals & 0.6 assists per 29 finals games.

It's nice of our supporters to dream about an alternate reality though.

I blame Chris Scott not Tom Hawkins.

 

[My Tilly]

I blame Chris Scott not Tom Hawkins.

I don't.
Hawkins just gets a little nervous on the eve of September is all.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I don't.
Hawkins just gets a little nervous on the eve of September is all.

He is the customer of the midfield. Come finals they just stop generating quality entries for him

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Hawkins requires 6 more goals to reach 700
Cameron requires 6 more goals to reach 500

Neck and neck.

 

[cats_09]

Hawkins requires 6 more goals to reach 700
Cameron requires 6 more goals to reach 500

Neck and neck.

I'm still going with Cameron first, and he'll kick goal 500 off an assist from Hawkins

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

I'm still going with Cameron first, and he'll kick goal 500 off an assist from Hawkins

I'm predicting Hawkins to reach 700 next week.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Both to knock down 6 next week would be awesome.

 

[Phipppppa]

Hawkins.

Jezza can go missing at times. Hawk has been fairly consistent all year.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Hawkins needs 4. Cameron needs 2.
Hopefully both get it tonight.

 

[cats_09]

 

[cats_09]

Jezza, with Tom providing the goal assist for about a dozen of them

Bump

 

[catempire]

Hawkins with a couple of assists to Jezza. Unselfish as ever.

 

[David the Cat]

Answer? Cameron....congrats to those who picked it.

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