Who will win the wooden spoon in 2018?

[Tiger2709]

Still waiting for this proof of them taking an illegal substance any who.

Well contact your club they are the only ones that know for sure.

Although Jobe admitted taking a substance that was banned/illegal when he took it, even though he got away with that one somehow, he still took an illegal substance.

Surprised that if the guilty finding were wrong that no one has sued against the verdict, yet we have seen Essendon paying off some of those involved.

For more proof check the record books that will forever document yet another Essendon smear on the competition.

 

[QLDbeachbabe]

I know the draft is not done yet but I don't imagine 1st year draftees are going to play much of a role in deciding where teams finish on the ladder.

I think 2018 is interesting from a wooden spoon point of view as there are a lot of candidates.

I think Brisbane, North Melbourne, Gold Coast, Carlton and even Collingwood might be contenders and if things go really badly then a team like Fremantle or even Hawthorn could find themselves much lower on the ladder than expected.

So here are the best 22's for 7 clubs (stealing from the AFL website)

Brisbane
B: Daniel McStay, Harris Andrews, Luke Hodge
HB: Darcy Gardiner, Josh Walker, Daniel Rich
C: Hugh McCluggage, Dayne Beams, Ryan Bastinac
HF: Lewis Taylor, Eric Hipwood, Allen Christensen
F: Charlie Cameron, Michael Close, Ryan Lester
R: Stefan Martin, Mitch Robinson, Dayne Zorko
INT: Sam Mayes, Tom Cutler, Alex Witherden, Nick Robertson

REMAINING SENIOR LIST: Jacob Allison, Claye Beams, Tom Bell, Jarrod Berry, Rohan Bewick, Cedric Cox, Liam Dawson, Jack Frost, Ben Keays, Corey Lyons, Rhys Mathieson, Marco Paparone, Sam Skinner, Archie Smith

Carlton
B: Kade Simpson, Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Sam Docherty, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman
C: Dale Thomas, Patrick Cripps, Darcy Lang
HF: Matthew Wright, Levi Casboult, Matthew Kennedy
F: Jack Silvagni, Charlie Curnow, Sam Petrevski-Seton
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Ed Curnow, Marc Murphy
INT: Ciaran Byrne, David Cuningham, Jarrod Pickett, Alex Silvagni

REMAINING SENIOR LIST: Blaine Boekhorst, Zac Fisher, Nick Graham, Patrick Kerr, Sam Kerridge, Jed Lamb, Matthew Lobbe, Harrison Macreadie, Harry McKay, Cameron Polson, Billie Smedts, Simon White, Tom Williamson.

Collingwood
B: Matthew Scharenberg, Lynden Dunn, Tom Langdon
HB: Jeremy Howe, Darcy Moore, Brayden Maynard
C: Daniel Wells, Adam Treloar, Steele Sidebottom
HF: Will Hoskin-Elliott, Ben Reid, Jordan De Goey
F: Jamie Elliott, Mason Cox, Alex Fasolo
R: Brodie Grundy, Scott Pendlebury, Taylor Adams
INT: Travis Varcoe, Tyson Goldsack, Tom Phillips, Jack Crisp

REMAINING SENIOR LIST: James Aish, Jarryd Blair, Tom Broomhead, Callum Brown, Ben Crocker, Josh Daicos, Levi Greenwood, Kayle Kirby, Chris Mayne, Sam McLarty, Sam Murray, Adam Oxley, Jackson Ramsay, Brayden Sier, Ben Sinclair, Josh Smith, Josh Thomas, Rupert Wills

Fremantle
B: Griffin Logue, Joel Hamling, Lee Spurr
HB: Nathan Wilson, Michael Johnson, Luke Ryan
C: Stephen Hill, Connor Blakely, Bradley Hill
HF: Michael Walters, Brennan Cox, Harley Bennell
F: Hayden Ballantyne, Cam McCarthy, Brandon Matera
R: Aaron Sandilands, Nat Fyfe, Lachie Neale
INT: David Mundy, Sean Darcy, Ed Langdon, Ethan Hughes

REMAINING SENIOR LIST: Michael Apeness, Brady Grey, Shane Kersten, Alex Pearce, Danyle Pearce, Tommy Sheridan, Nick Suban, Cam Sutcliffe, Matt Taberner, Darcy Tucker

Gold Coast
B: Jesse Joyce, Steven May, Jarrod Harbrow
HB: Pearce Hanley, Rory Thompson, Sean Lemmens
C: Lachie Weller, David Swallow, Touk Miller
HF: Jack Martin, Peter Wright, Alex Sexton
F: Aaron Young, Tom Lynch, Ben Ainsworth
R: Jarrod Witts, Will Brodie, Aaron Hall
INT: Matt Rosa, Jarryd Lyons, Callum Ah Chee, Michael Rischitelli

REMAINING SENIOR LIST: Michael Barlow, Jack Bowes, Daniel Currie, Sam Day, Brayden Fiorini, Kade Kolodjashnij, Jack Leslie, Jesse Lonergan, Tom Nicholls, Brad Scheer, Josh Schoenfeld, Jack Scrimshaw, Matt Shaw, Harrison Wigg, Mackenzie Willis

Hawthorn
B: Ben Stratton, James Frawley, Ryan Burton
HB: Grant Birchall, Kaiden Brand, James Sicily
C: Isaac Smith, Shaun Burgoyne, Jaeger O'Meara
HF: Luke Breust, Tim O'Brien, Jack Gunston
F: Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead, Paul Puopolo
R: Ben McEvoy, Tom Mitchell, Liam Shiels
INT: Jarman Impey, Daniel Howe, Blake Hardwick, Teia Miles

REMAINING SENIOR LIST: Jonathon Ceglar, Taylor Duryea, Kurt Heatherley, Ricky Henderson, Will Langford, Mitchell Lewis, Kieran Lovell, Harry Morrison, Jono O'Rourke, Marc Pittonet, Ryan Schoenmakers, Kade Stewart, Ty Vickery, Brendan Whitecross, Dallas Willsmore.

North Melbourne
B: Daniel Nielson, Scott Thompson, Jamie Macmillan
HB: Sam Wright, Robbie Tarrant, Marley Williams
C: Jarrad Waite, Ben Cunnington, Luke McDonald
HF: Taylor Garner, Mason Wood, Trent Dumont
F: Kayne Turner, Ben Brown, Jy Simpkin
R: Todd Goldstein, Shaun Higgins, Jack Ziebell
INT: Shaun Atley, Nathan Hrovat, Ryan Clarke, Declan Mountford

REMAINING SENIOR LIST: Paul Ahern, Jed Anderson, Majak Daw, Mitch Hibberd, Nick Larkey, Ben McKay, Braydon Preuss, Andrew Swallow, Lindsay Thomas, Ed Vickers-Willis, Declan Watson, Josh Williams

To me it is hard to go past North Melbourne s their best 22 looks really poor, with not a lot of young talent there (other than Ben Brown) and a lot of older players who either won't improve or will be in decline.

I think Brisbane, while most likely bottom 4 in 2018 will continue to improve as they have a lot of young talent in their team and Hodge should provide some stability down back.

I think Hawthorn will be fine as long as they don't get many injuries as their best 22 is solid, but there is not a lot left if they get 3 or 4 injuries.

As for Gold Coast, I actually don't think they are as bad as what they showed in 2017. I think they have plenty of talent in their best 22, and their depth isn't horrible, but they need for it to all come together

So what do you think?

Hopefully not us but North Hobart and the Bears I think everyone will assume with Collingwood and Carlton not far behind if injuries keep going.

 

[Mr.X]

Bulldogs look like a real show for the spoon, they appear disinterested

Saints thereabouts also, would not surprise to see them end up bottom 4

 

[Sttew]

Luckily for WB and Saints it is only R2. Problems can be addressed. Remember Swans 2017

 

[TommyD13]

Bulldogs have a nice ish run between rounds 5-11 so I wouldn’t write them off just yet. Get a couple of wins and see the confidence and intensity rise. Of course we have to win a few of those games first but I’d back the boys in.


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[CharlieMortdecai]

Luckily for WB and Saints it is only R2. Problems can be addressed. Remember Swans 2017

The Swans never looked as abysmal as the Dogs and Saints. In their run of 6 losses they never lost by more than 5 goals and their percentage remained around 75% the whole time. Four of the six played finals too.
Of course St Kilda and Footscray can turn it around, the Saints in particular can be a roller-coaster from one week to the next judging by last year. They want to hurry up though or they will find themselves mired in the bottom four.

 

[nelroo]

After Friday nights showing, the Saints. I cannot for the life of me see much upside in that list. Missing Roo and Montagna is a big worry for them. For all the crap North cops for its supposed vanilla list, I’d take our crop any day of the week over theirs.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

18. Fremantle
17. North
16. Brisbane
15. Collingwood
14. St Kilda
13. Carlton
12. Bulldogs
11. GC
10. Hawthorn
9. West Coast

Bulldogs probably too high. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Essendon finish bottom 6

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

Dogs barely functioning at the moment with a skeleton backline (losing Morris and Adams both for 3 months just before round 1) and still adjusting to the retirements of Murphy and Boyd. It will take some time before this new defensive setup functions.

No forwardline to speak of at the moment either. Redpath and Dickson should be 2 big ins for this week.

Realistically though i cant see us outside of the bottom 4 this year. Massive fall from grace.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

looks like carlton collingwood or bulldogs atm

carlton will run out of steam by rd 10 so they better hope to win some games before then

 

[The Nostradamus]

Lions will get the spoon
Blues close second last

 

[Jade]

Dogs barely functioning at the moment with a skeleton backline (losing Morris and Adams both for 3 months just before round 1) and still adjusting to the retirements of Murphy and Boyd. It will take some time before this new defensive setup functions.

No forwardline to speak of at the moment either. Redpath and Dickson should be 2 big ins for this week.

Realistically though i cant see us outside of the bottom 4 this year. Massive fall from grace.

Don’t worry, you have us next week, we excel at getting beat by lowly sides.

 

[mrmonkey]

Lions will get the spoon
Blues close second last

It's hard to tell the comp is so even, but I would swap them. I think Brisbane have a pretty good run home and as the weather starts to warm up in August, they may trouble a few teams at the gabba.

 

[QLDbeachbabe]

Blues will get the spoon
Suns close second last

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

There's going to be a few quotable posts in here come 11 months time.

And I was right...

 

[Engimal v3]

October 24th, 2017:

Carlton, quite easily.

Surely a troll by a North supporter

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Good thread would read again

 

[adammania9]

Agreed - Pies midfield butchers ball - they have been touted as up and coming for last six years - yet all they have achieved is a downward spiral into oblivion.

Awful call

 

[BBC1967]

Awful call

Maybe -Have a look at some of yours over last six years

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Awful call

Credit is where it is due, I ranked you guys around the 9-12 mark due to your midfield and what I thought was poor kpp depth and a makeshift defence. Happy to be proved wrong, the pies are playing a great brand of footy, very watchable.

 

[HairyO]

When I look at the list, its hard to see Carlton winning a game next year.

My October 2017 prediction was wrong.

But not by much.

 

[adammania9]

Maybe -Have a look at some of yours over last six years

My ratio of bad calls to good calls would be better than yours

 

[BBC1967]

My ratio of bad calls to good calls would be better than yours

I think you will find that since Hardwick and Buckley started coaching you and I have been positive in relation to both of our teams. The graph for each coach speaks volumes of their rebuild since they started. Buckley's graph is revealing in that up until this year - your club has been in decline. Therefore my optimism has been well placed prediction wise. My "hatred for Pies" (my God don't take it personally it is only banter) posts have until this year been on the mark. There are still a lot of games to go and it is possible both of our clubs could lose multiple games and fall in a heap. I think I know who will lose and who will win.So in summary are I think you are delusional.

 

[dave123]

Carlton will not win another game this year

Are they any chance

 

[mikey127]

Not us