Who would win? Vic clubs vs Interstate

[CharlieG]

Interstaters

FB: Hardwick Leppitsch C.Johnson
HB: Goodes Pavlich Scott
C: Black McLeod Headland
HF: Riccuito Tredrea Dew
FF: Akermanis Hall Kerr
R: Primus Voss Cousins
In: McDonald Bell Lappin
Judd N.Stevens Goodwin

Victorians

FB: A.Kellaway Fletcher Campbell
HB: Koutoufides Riewoldt Archer
C: K.Johnson Buckley Yze
HF: Hird Rocca B.Johnson
FF: Brown Lloyd Milne
R: Darcy Crawford J.Johnson
In: King S.Grant Hayes
Koschitze Neitz Licuria

Correct me if there's any oversights in these teams... what are your un-parochial opinions? Personally I think the non-Victorians would win by 30-50 points. Generally stronger across the ground IMO.

 

[Burgotype]

Well i would agree with you i would see the "non-victorians" winning but in that side alone aren't all of the following victorians:
Hardwick,Leppitsch(U18 VMFL),Scott(VMFL), Johnson, Hall, Lappin(VCFL) and Judd

 

[X_box_X]

I would have Carey and Francou in the interstate side.

 

[CharlieG]

The point is Victorian clubs vs non-Victorian clubs. You can use the same argument in reverse.... Buckley, Hird, Crawford, Riewoldt and Hayes aren't Victorian.

 

[Kenny_01]

Originally posted by CharlieG
Interstaters

FB: Hardwick Leppitsch C.Johnson
HB: Goodes Pavlich Scott
C: Black McLeod Headland
HF: Riccuito Tredrea Dew
FF: Akermanis Hall Kerr
R: Primus Voss Cousins
In: McDonald Bell Lappin
Judd N.Stevens Goodwin

Victorians

FB: A.Kellaway Fletcher Campbell
HB: Koutoufides Riewoldt Archer
C: K.Johnson Buckley Yze
HF: Hird Rocca B.Johnson
FF: Brown Lloyd Milne
R: Darcy Crawford J.Johnson
In: King S.Grant Hayes
Koschitze Neitz Licuria

Correct me if there's any oversights in these teams... what are your un-parochial opinions? Personally I think the non-Victorians would win by 30-50 points. Generally stronger across the ground IMO.

Hasleby should get a game in the interstate side.

 

[larrikin]

Re: Re: Who would win? Vic clubs vs Interstate

Originally posted by Kenny_01


Hasleby should get a game in the interstate side.

How'd i know you'd say that Kenny?

 

[CharlieG]

I considered all of Francou, Carey and Hasleby... but I couldn't fit them in.

 

[X_box_X]

Originally posted by CharlieG
I considered all of Francou, Carey and Hasleby... but I couldn't fit them in.

And you have Mcdonald, Dew and Goodes in there? I wouldn't have Hardwick in there either. I think Monty should take his spot.

 

[larrikin]

Originally posted by X_box_X


And you have Mcdonald, Dew and Goodes in there? I wouldn't have Hardwick in there either. I think Monty should take his spot.

Yeah, i would've had Gardiner ahead of McDonald, and definitely Francou ahead of Stevens. But it's all opinion!!!!

 

[CharlieG]

This side is designed to beat the opposition. Take McDonald out, and Primus has to carry the ruck all day. Take out Dew, the Vics go defensive and you can't kick goals through the flood. Dew is far and away the best half forward flanker in the AFL. Goodes is there to hopefully minimise the effect of Riewoldt and Kouta, who could quite easily take control of the field if they start taking marks. Those three are all reactive selections. If you look at the midfield, that's where the side goes proactive.

 

[Kenny_01]

My Interstate side.

B: B. Scott Leppitsch C. Johnson
HB: Hart Pavlich Hardwick
C: Akermanis Black McLeod
HF: Voss Tredrea Riccuito
F: Hasleby A. Lynch Dew
R: Primus Francou Cousins

I: Williams, Headland, Kerr, Gardiner, Montgomery, Bell, Goodes

 

[Stocka]

Originally posted by CharlieG
This side is designed to beat the opposition.

Going from that statement, it sounds like your intention was to design two sides, with the Victorian one being beaten, rather than matching up the two best possible line-ups using the available players.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Kenny_01
My Interstate side.

B: B. Scott Leppitsch C. Johnson
HB: Hart Pavlich Hardwick
C: Akermanis Black McLeod
HF: Voss Tredrea Riccuito
F: Hasleby A. Lynch Dew
R: Primus Francou Cousins

I: Williams, Headland, Kerr, Gardiner, Montgomery, Bell, Goodes

Would have thought Goodwin would sneak in ahead of most named on the bench, paricularly given he can play on the ball or back of need be.

 

[CharlieG]

Stocka, don't be silly. Both sides have features designed to both probe weaknesses and defend against them. The interstaters midfield is full of attacking players, to cash in on the fact that they are better in that area. They don't have a tagger because they are relying on being the stronger midfield. You will notice that the Vics do have a tagger in Paul Licuria, to try and combat that.

The Vics have gone tall across half-back to try and exploit a possible weakness in the marking strength of the interstaters. Apart from Tredrea and Riccuito, none of the interstate forward line are particularly strong markers, and Riccuito isn't nearly as good as Kouta, hence Kouta playing down back.

Both teams are designed to beat the other. Can you tell me any star Victorians that are missing? If there are, they're an oversight.

 

[Kenny_01]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Would have thought Goodwin would sneak in ahead of most named on the bench, paricularly given he can play on the ball or back of need be.

brainfade

Forgot Lappin aswell.

 

[Kenny_01]

The backline of the Vic side looks pretty weak compared to the Interstate side.

 

[LionsForever]

Nick Riewoldt is a Queenslander therefore he should be in that Interstate side

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by CharlieG
and Riccuito isn't nearly as good as Kouta

Ricciuto is a miles better player than what Kouta will be in 2003.

 

[Deestroy]

Originally posted by LionsForever
Nick Riewoldt is a Queenslander therefore he should be in that Interstate side

It's who plays for Vic teams compared to who plays for interstate teams, not all players on the interstate team are actually from states other than Vic.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Originally posted by CharlieG
Interstaters

FB: Hardwick Leppitsch C.Johnson
HB: Goodes Pavlich Scott
C: Black McLeod Headland
HF: Riccuito Tredrea Dew
FF: Akermanis Hall Kerr
R: Primus Voss Cousins
In: McDonald Bell Lappin
Judd N.Stevens Goodwin

Victorians

FB: A.Kellaway Fletcher Campbell
HB: Koutoufides Riewoldt Archer
C: K.Johnson Buckley Yze
HF: Hird Rocca B.Johnson
FF: Brown Lloyd Milne
R: Darcy Crawford J.Johnson
In: King S.Grant Hayes
Koschitze Neitz Licuria

Correct me if there's any oversights in these teams... what are your un-parochial opinions? Personally I think the non-Victorians would win by 30-50 points. Generally stronger across the ground IMO.

The Vics would win pretty comfortable I think but it would be more comfortable if Andrew Kellaway didn't play.

And I assume you don't think its an oversight cos most people don't but I would say the man who averaged more disposals than anybody else in the league, Scott West would be a more than handy addition on at least the bench in the Vic team

 

[Eago77]

Originally posted by Burgotype
Well i would agree with you i would see the "non-victorians" winning but in that side alone aren't all of the following victorians:
Hardwick,Leppitsch(U18 VMFL),Scott(VMFL), Johnson, Hall, Lappin(VCFL) and Judd

Correct me if i'm wrong but they are based outside of Victoria now, just as Darcy, Hird & Buckley to mention three are all based in Victoria but certainly weren't born there.

I'd include Francou & maybe another tall defender in my "non-vic" team. Gardiner would also be ahead of Beau IMO. Surely Ben Hart, Montgomery (both AA this year) or Pickett would be a better HBF than Goodes. I'd also prefer anyone the BBBBUBH at full forward for the "non-vic" team, Lynch, Chad Cornes, even Carey.

For the vic's surley there is a better BP than Campbell and someone better than Hayes for a starting 22 spot.

 

[grinspoon]

FB: Archer Prestigiacomo King
HB: Burns Riewoldt Clement
C: K.Johnson Buckley Yze
HF: Hird Rocca B.Johnson
FF: Brown Lloyd Tarrant
R: Darcy Crawford Licuria
In: Hayes Neitz J.Johnson B.Harvey
L.Davis

presti as he has only let 21 goals thru out of 25 games and plays tredrea to the shi!house, clement well you all know why, tarrant for pace and goalkicking, brent harvey as small fast and kicks goals, as does leon davis, burns for toughness and rock solid.... played good against port, crows and lions in the finals... would do so again. fletcher gets to many goals kicked on him, so i took him out, kresitchski or whatever... hasnt done jack... could add a few more, but ive seen proberly everysingle afl game this year, and this team is the one id have, most of them could rotate... i added pace, goal kickers, reliable defenders, and an extra tall, fast good kicking forward.... this team would win easily.

 

[Eago77]

Originally posted by grinspoon
FB: Archer Prestigiacomo King
HB: Burns Riewoldt Clement
C: K.Johnson Buckley Yze
HF: Hird Rocca B.Johnson
FF: Brown Lloyd Tarrant
R: Darcy Crawford Licuria
In: Hayes Neitz J.Johnson B.Harvey
L.Davis

presti as he has only let 21 goals thru out of 25 games and plays tredrea to the shi!house, clement well you all know why, tarrant for pace and goalkicking, brent harvey as small fast and kicks goals, as does leon davis, burns for toughness and rock solid.... played good against port, crows and lions in the finals... would do so again. fletcher gets to many goals kicked on him, so i took him out, kresitchski or whatever... hasnt done jack... could add a few more, but ive seen proberly everysingle afl game this year, and this team is the one id have, most of them could rotate... i added pace, goal kickers, reliable defenders, and an extra tall, fast good kicking forward.... this team would win easily.

If Leon Davis is in the best 23 players in Victoria then it's time to give up. Obviously a Collingwood supporter but even so that is just stupid. I guess you only could mange to find room for 7 Collingwood players so atleast you weren't showing any bias

Btw that team would get kicked off the park by Brisbane without using any players from the 5 other non-victorian clubs.

 

[Kenny_01]

Originally posted by Eago77


I guess you only could mange to find room for 7 Collingwood players so atleast you weren't showing any bias

I counted 8

 

[DaveW]

Collingwood bias is fine, all it does is help the non-Vic side.