Universal Love Who would you have, Roughy or Buddy?

[SA HAWK]

I think we win 14 & 15 either way with Buddy or Rough, obviously that's hypothetical though as we had Rough and we did win them.

Not sure we win that 2014 prelim if you swapped them Rough was huge in that game possibly his best ever.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Not sure we win that 2014 prelim if you swapped them Rough was huge in that game possibly his best ever.

Yeah that's very true as he was immense that day, in saying that we may have won 2016 if we had Buddy, I dare say we would have beaten Geelong in the QF.

 

[SA HAWK]

Yeah that's very true as he was immense that day, in saying that we may have won 2016 if we had Buddy, I dare say we would have beaten Geelong in the QF.

Nah we were cooked at the end of 2016.

 

[Pessimistic]

Which finals did Buddy miss altogether? I lose track

Flawed Genius. nothing wrong with that. Just not one of the greats he could have been

 

[Pessimistic]

Yeah that's very true as he was immense that day, in saying that we may have won 2016 if we had Buddy, I dare say we would have beaten Geelong in the QF.

Little old Ceglar was the catalyst for the decline. Small forward line needed a resting Rusk

 

[cryptor]

Which finals did Buddy miss altogether? I lose track

Flawed Genius. nothing wrong with that. Just not one of the greats he could have been

Without checking I think it was 2016. Missed with "mental health issues".

 

[JC Hawks]

Which finals did Buddy miss altogether? I lose track

Flawed Genius. nothing wrong with that. Just not one of the greats he could have been

It was 2015.

 

[MrPremiership]

Can't wait til he gets 1,000.

Hopefully in Melbourne

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Can't wait til he gets 1,000.

Hopefully in Melbourne

Will be a massive moment as he will likely be the last player ever to reach 1000 goals.

 

[Brant]

Will be a massive moment as he will likely be the last player ever to reach 1000 goals.

Definitely the last to kick 700+ points!

Unless Langers plays 200 games....

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Definitely the last to kick 700+ points!

Unless Langers plays 200 games....

1700+ shots on goal, what a shot monster the big budwah is.

 

[MrPremiership]

Will be a massive moment as he will likely be the last player ever to reach 1000 goals.

Depends what the game becomes....

 

[Agent Smith]

Depends what the game becomes....

atm, it looks to be becoming a combination of soccer and rugby.

Sooo... Soccby.

Rugcer?

 

[reubski23]

Buddy every day of the week and twice on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

I love Rough but Buddy is an all time great - Roughead is a once in a decade player

 

[Gold Member]

Interestingly one of these premiership teammates couldn't find 5 minutes of time to tweet or insta something nice about Cyril...

 

[killerspud]

I love Roughy - what a bloke, what a footballer - what courage!. Glad he is our captain.

BUT

He is a key forward and there are lots of key forwards. There's only one Buddy Franklin though. He just does things that no other person can do on a football field. He'll kick a thousand goals - that is beyond elite, that's legend

 

[HODGEYROAD]

At 31 Buddy is still 1st in goals per game and 1st in score involvements per game.

 

[KermitJagger]

I still maintain that at the end of 2013, Roughead over Buddy would be the right decision for Hawthorn.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I still maintain that at the end of 2013, Roughead over Buddy would be the right decision for Hawthorn.

Not if you wanted to win more games though.

 

[Gralin]

Not if you wanted to win more games though.

What are you on about? We won two flags directly after he left.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

What are you on about? We won two flags directly after he left.

There's no denying who is the better player and right now our side would be clearly better with Franklin in it. This is no disrespect to Roughie, it's just a fact. Why are people too precious to accept this?

As for the premiership years - who knows how much better we would have been if Franklin had remained in the side and Roughie left in his place? I think it's safe to assume we would still have won both of those flags, given the resounding nature of those wins.

 

[Gralin]

There's no denying who is the better player and right now our side would be clearly better with Franklin in it. This is no disrespect to Roughie, it's just a fact. Why are people too precious to accept this?

As for the premiership years - who knows how much better we would have been if Franklin had remained in the side and Roughie left in his place? I think it's safe to assume we would still have won both of those flags, given the resounding nature of those wins.

The post you quoted was talking about 2013 not this week
I wouldn't be so sure on those two other flags either considering they had a big offer on the table to Bud whichbwoukd have stopped them from keeping everyone together after 2013 if he'd taken it.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

The post you quoted was talking about 2013 not this week
I wouldn't be so sure on those two other flags either considering they had a big offer on the table to Bud whichbwoukd have stopped them from keeping everyone together after 2013 if he'd taken it.

I addressed both then and now.

With regards to the money situation though you are right - that would change a whole lot and would have had a large ripple effect that we would be feeling even now. With that in mind I'm glad things have worked out the way that did, but if we are talking in isolation right now then it's clear who would be better.

 

[Gralin]

I addressed both then and now.

With regards to the money situation though you are right - that would change a whole lot and would have had a large ripple effect that we would be feeling even now. With that in mind I'm glad things have worked out the way that did, but if we are talking in isolation right now then it's clear who would be better.

I'd have Bud back if Sydney wanted to keep paying half his salary but I'd never turf Rough for him

 

[KermitJagger]

I addressed both then and now.

With regards to the money situation though you are right - that would change a whole lot and would have had a large ripple effect that we would be feeling even now. With that in mind I'm glad things have worked out the way that did, but if we are talking in isolation right now then it's clear who would be better.

If we're transplanting the way their careers have gone, Buddy would have missed all of the 2015 finals series as he did at the Swans and we would never have won 3 in a row.