Who's NOT a member ?

[eastaugh36]

Whoever is not a member, is not a true fan in my opinion. There are no excuses for not being one.

 

[Seth]

Very true. I once heard that if somebody tries to talk to Denis Pagan he asks them first up if they are a North member. If they say no then he does not continue the conversation. If true well done to him.

 

[JUBJUB]

Originally posted by eastaugh36:
Whoever is not a member, is not a true fan in my opinion. There are no excuses for not being one.

EASTY
Thats the most sensible thing you have ever said

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"FIGHTING WITH ALL OUR MIGHT"

 

[Joel]

Have to disagree with both of you. Some people do not have enough money to buy a membership and they should be excluded.

 

[Catman]

Some clubs have implemented an pay by installment option, so you don't have to pay for you membership all at once. You can pay little bits each month. Geelong implemented it and while I didn't use it I felt it was a good way to getting new members.

 

[Dan24.]

Does this mean, that of Essendon and Collingwood's 900,000 odd supporters, only 30,000 of them are real supporters?

Does this mean that of Adelaides, say, 800,000 - 1,000,000 supporters, only their 50,000 members (including waiting list) are real supporters?

Does this mean that of North Melbounres estimated 250,000 supporters (that's a guess), only 25,000 of them are true fans.

Some people have a life other than football. Some people like to go to one or two games a year only. They enjoy other things on wekends too. We all know people like this and there is nothing wrong with that. It's OK to have a life outside football. There is no reason why supporters HAVE to put money into something that they don't want to. Why should a supporter put 100 dollars to the Kangaroos if they are a fan, but are only going to go to perhaps 1 or 2 games a year.

As far as I'm concerned, there are lots of true supporters that are not members. Why should a true fans part with 150 bucks, if they are only going to go to a couple of games a year. Just because they may not be as enthusiastic as other fans, doesn't make them any less of a person. They are still a fan of the club and as long as they stay loyal, they are a true fan. Supporters don't have to put money towards something if they don't want to. Sure, it will help the club, but that's not the point.

 

[aggels]

I'm not a member. I was last year, but I just don't have the money at the moment. When I do, I will be a member, but I think saying I'm not a real supporter is a little unfair right at the moment. Anyone who knows me would be able to tell you that my team is very important to me.

 

[WCE2000]

i'm a little bemused here.

ive been accused of not being a real supporter, could someone please explain to me why i'm not

 

[Frodo]

Don't have the money!!!!!!!!

In rare cases this may be true but I would guess that what most people mean is that they have higher priorities for their money, like beer and ciggies.

A fan is short for 'Fanatic', I aint one of those. A real supporter is a member. I call the others 'followers' as they follow the fortunes of their club without giving true support.

And Dan, gee you are a lateral thinker

[This message has been edited by Frodo (edited 25 March 2001).]

 

[aggels]

Nope, I really just don't have the money. I'm 18, have just finished school, and am looking for my first job. After repaying a few small debts to friends and familiy, it'll be the first thing I do once I have some money, even before paying for my driving test.

 

[Mags]

Originally posted by eastaugh36:
Whoever is not a member, is not a true fan in my opinion. There are no excuses for not being one.

U have a nerve dont u? Too say that.

Gezz!

 

[Visro.]

Originally posted by Joel:
Have to disagree with both of you. Some people do not have enough money to buy a membership and they should be excluded.

Like me, last year of school so I dont have time to have a job part time, which means unfortunately, NO MONEY!!! My dads a member though so that sort of makes up for it

As soon as I get a job and the cash comes in however I will become a member again. Year 12 sucks in so many more ways than I could imagine!!!

Vis

 

[Santos L Helper]

I refuse to become a Port member until Williams is given his marching orders.

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If ya smell what Santos is cooking!!

 

[eagleskickass]

I finally had the money to by a membership and a vacancy as the Eagles are experiencing lots of people not renewing so I got a membership

 

[Westy Boy]

Originally posted by eastaugh36:
Whoever is not a member, is not a true fan in my opinion. There are no excuses for not being one.

So in the 80's when memberships weren't a high priority and clubs would just go by with 2000- 5000 odd members, the rest of the supporters weren't true fans, but just theatre goers?

When you were 12, before you bought your membership (becuase you couldn't afford it etc.), you weren't a true fan?

When supporters pay their $10-$15 at the gate, week in - week out, they're not true fans? They're paying MORE than members! ... but somehow this makes them disloyal... ?!

I can understand your thinking in saying it (and perhaps hypocritically, I'm pissed off at our supporters not bying 'em too) Easty, but sometimes it aint that simple. Affording it/being able to attend games etc. do play a role in many people's minds. As an example, some people may refuse to buy use it as a form of protest against their club moving their home ground.... or even as Santos L Helper pointed out, disagreeing with appointed coaches.... or administrators etc. I don't agree with this reasoning, and doing things out of spite towards your club aint helping at all, but i can understand where they're coming from.

On the other hand, I don't have ANY time for 'fans' who just come out of the woodwork at work/school etc, who've never actually been to a game when it's damn easy for them to get to a few... and HATE 'fans' who wait to see if they're going to have a successful season or not, before purchasing a membership.

[This message has been edited by Westy Boy (edited 25 March 2001).]

 

[Mags]

That was a very good post Westy.

It is exactly how I fell!

Easty, U buy ur membership so u can get that grand final ticket for sure, nothing more, nothing less.

And so when Essendon are winning u can say "Oh Look Im A Member, Always Have Been Threw Thick An Thin".

When U Lose Easty, we dont hear a word from ya.

Mags

 

[Richmondfan#1]

Originally posted by Santos L Helper:
I refuse to become a Port member until Williams is given his marching orders.

I hope you are joking!
A real supporter should stick by their club no matter what choices or decisions are made. I just really dislike that however i guess i respect what you are saying ... i just strongly disagree with it. Richmond have been through so many coaches in the last 20 years, and even though i haven't been alive for 20 years, i have supported every single one of these coaches even if they are dumb nuts. Frawley is the coach that I'm actually glad came to the club. I guess this may not be the same thing but it is still very similiar.

Great post Westy!

 

[Richmondfan#1]

And i'm not really saying you aren't a real supporter. I just thought I'd clarify that.

 

[carb70]

Originally posted by Santos L Helper:
I refuse to become a Port member until Williams is given his marching orders.

Thats a piss weak excuse Santos. Your'e not a member because of one person at the club the club is bigger and more important than any one person. Also if it wasn't for the Williams name Port might not be in the AFL today. So c'mon Santos do yourself a favour and come and join a winning team.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by eastaugh36:
Whoever is not a member, is not a true fan in my opinion. There are no excuses for not being one.

That aint right Easty. Some people dont have money coming out there ears to afford a season ticket or memberhship of their club. I myself have been a member of Port Adelaide Power since 96 and a member of Port Adelaide Magpies since i was 5 which was around 1987 i think.

My dad pays for my membership as a chrissy present, but if he didnt have enough to pa for it, that wouldnt make me any less of a supporter

 

[lioness]

Last year, I was in the boat of simply not being able to afford a membership, I wasn't working, and then mid-year Mum was laid off, so we weren't doing so well at all. Thankfully this year is different, and I will be a Lions member once more, the only question mark now is whether it will be a full membership (if I end up staying in Melbourne) or just a support one (if I end up moving to America

) Either way, my man and I will both be members this season.

But to say money isn't an excuse is just pathetic, especially with the cost of most memberships these days. It's not something people hide behind coz they don't want to be a member, in 99% of cases, it's genuine hardship. Better to encourage than judge, IMO.

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*the one and only lioness*

 

[Danni]

We all know at approximately what time each year the new packages and renewals will be out. Sometimes you just need to plan ahead!

A family friend on ours who is on a disability pension, has timed her $500 Centrelink loan for that time each year. She buys herself and her grandaughter their memberships. Then during the year when she is still not 'flush' she at least has something already paid for to look forward too.

 

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Mags:
That was a very good post Westy.

It is exactly how I fell!

Easty, U buy ur membership so u can get that grand final ticket for sure, nothing more, nothing less.

And so when Essendon are winning u can say "Oh Look Im A Member, Always Have Been Threw Thick An Thin".

When U Lose Easty, we dont hear a word from ya.

Mags

You must be on something ! I have been a member for the past 10 years ! In the bad times and good times also at Glenelg too where they have had more bottom years than good years so your argument is stuffed ! And another thing, you dont get a grand final ticket in the interstate memberships anyway ! In the past 3 years I have paid the $1000+ separately to the membership so you cant talk ! Also, if someone cant afford to be a member they must be pretty povvo !

 

[Mudholian]

Originally posted by Santos L Helper:
I refuse to become a Port member until Williams is given his marching orders.

Well everyone is entitled to an opinion. One thing is that as a member you have a direct say in deciding on who you want making these decisions. But once they're made - get over it and support.

At the risk of going on with another when I was a lad story, well, when I was a lad and first became a PAFC member you had to be nominated by two current members. Your name went up in the club rooms for a month and if someone had heard that you'd been going on about sacking the coach well you never would be a member. Criminal record, fine, but whinging and disloyalty? - no way.

These days they'll take anyone, hell, any species.

Mud

 

[Ms.Storm]

I think its crucial that fans become members, especially for the Melbourne teams to survive.
I am unemployed at the moment and really sruggled to buy my membership for the Demons and also Storm, but I did it somehow.
I would encourage all suuporters to become members of their clubs.
Cheers
Go Demons
Go Storm