Society/Culture Why Australia needs to lower its immigration intake

[Gethelred]

This thread is about a lot of things, but one of the things it is not about is crime.

The next person who seeks to make a connection between violent crime and immigration by posting about it in here will receive a threadban and an infraction equivalent to the racism it portrays.

Should you want to talk about violent crime, the 'African gangs' thread is both thataway:

Vic - Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

The Victorian government and police management have finally been shamed into admitting there's a problems with African gangs. On 20th December, after eight police were overpowered by a gang of 100 mainly South Sudanese youths who trashed a Werribee Airbnb-rented property, smashing car...

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Let's stay on topic from here.

 

[CM86]

When Mum and Dad live in poverty in Sudan and come to Australia you don’t think that affects their newly born child?

Why would someone born in Victoria, with Sudanese parents be impacted by the socioeconomics of Sudan?
Unless you feel there is some form of hereditary impact?

Many people in Australia have parents or grandparents who immigrated to Australia, and previously lived in poverty.
Why are Sudanese youth overrepresented in youth custody, as per your original post?

 

[evolved2]

 

[10571z]

Why would someone born in Victoria, with Sudanese parents be impacted by the socioeconomics of Sudan?
Unless you feel there is some form of hereditary impact?

Many people in Australia have parents or grandparents who immigrated to Australia, and previously lived in poverty.
Why are Sudanese youth overrepresented in youth custody, as per your original post?

Genetic, Hereditary…. Not sure why you keep pushing this narrative.

Ive quite adequately explained why mum and dad immigrating from a poverty stricken country would affect your outlook and likely hood to commit crimes.

 

[CM86]

Genetic, Hereditary…. Not sure why you keep pushing this narrative.

Ive quite adequately explained why mum and dad immigrating from a poverty stricken country would affect your outlook and likely hood to commit crimes.

Why would someone born in Victoria, with Sudanese parents be impacted by the socioeconomics of Sudan?
Unless you feel there is some form of hereditary impact?

Many people in Australia have parents or grandparents who immigrated to Australia, and previously lived in poverty.
Why are Sudanese youth overrepresented in youth custody, as per your original post?

You specifically raised the over-representation of Sudanese youth in youth custody.
Can you explain why you believe that those Australians, with the background race that you specified, have that over-representation?

 

[evolved2]

Genetic, Hereditary…. Not sure why you keep pushing this narrative.

Ive quite adequately explained why mum and dad immigrating from a poverty stricken country would affect your outlook and likely hood to commit crimes.

Is there evidence that genetics are responsible for people being violent?

 

[CM86]

Get involved2!

 

[evolved2]

Get involved2!

I'm in, mate.

 

[10571z]

Is there evidence that genetics are responsible for people being violent?

Not that im aware of

 

[evolved2]

Not that im aware of

Thanks. I'm out again.

 

[10571z]

You specifically raised the over-representation of Sudanese youth in youth custody.
Can you explain why you believe that those Australians, with the background race that you specified, have that over-representation?

We should go around in circles all night.

 

[CM86]

We should go around in circles all night.

There is an answer.
But you don't know it, probably because you do actually think it's genetics. But you know how bad it is optically.

 

[CM86]

Is there evidence that genetics are responsible for people being violent?

Not that im aware of

The answer is 'NO'... Right?

Not a vague "Not that I'm aware of".

Because it means that you're not sure it it's genetic or not.
Because you probably believe that certain races are genetically inferior or superior in terms of fitting into a Western society.

 

[10571z]

There is an answer.
But you don't know it, probably because you do actually think it's genetics. But you know how bad it is optically.

There is an answer. I’ve explained it.

I suggest you look for that instead of mentioning genetics again.

 

[CM86]

There is an answer. I’ve explained it.

I suggest you look for that instead of mentioning genetics again.

Yes, I've responded to it repeatedly.

You've been unable to respond to it.

"Many people in Australia have parents or grandparents who immigrated to Australia, and previously lived in poverty.
Why are Sudanese youth overrepresented in youth custody, as per your original post?"

 

[10571z]

The answer is 'NO'... Right?

Not a vague "Not that I'm aware of".

Because it means that you're not sure it it's genetic or not.
Because you probably believe that certain races are genetically inferior or superior in terms of fitting into a Western society.

The answer is 'NO'... Right?

Not a vague "Not that I'm aware of".

Because it means that you're not sure it it's genetic or not.
Because you probably believe that certain races are genetically inferior or superior in terms of fitting into a Western society.

Never ever studied nor looked into it.

Quick google search says it’s possible so I’ll remain with my answer

“Not that im aware of”

Genetics of aggression - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[CM86]

Never ever studied nor looked into it.

Quick google search says it’s possible so I’ll remain with my answer

“Not that im aware of”

Genetics of aggression - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Is there evidence that genetics are responsible for Sudanese people being criminal?

 

[10571z]

Yes, I've responded to it repeatedly.

You've been unable to respond to it.

"Many people in Australia have parents or grandparents who immigrated to Australia, and previously lived in poverty.
Why are Sudanese youth overrepresented in youth custody, as per your original post?"

It’s a very vague statement. Which countries did they immigrate from, what period etc

Without spending hours going through crime statistic against immigration levels etc I couldn’t give you an answer.

 

[10571z]

Is there evidence that genetics are responsible for Sudanese people being criminal?

Never looked into it. I doubt it. I’ve never heard of race based violence genetics.

 

[CM86]

It’s a very vague statement. Which countries did they immigrate from, what period etc

Without spending hours going through crime statistic against immigration levels etc I couldn’t give you an answer.

But you made the assumption that the reason for the over-representation of Sudanese youth in custody, was because of their parents coming from poverty.

You don't know that. You've no evidence to support it.
So why did you make your original statement, without evidence?

 

[CM86]

Never looked into it. I doubt it. I’ve never heard of race based violence genetics.

Do you think it's likely or unlikely?

 

[10571z]

But you made the assumption that the reason for the over-representation of Sudanese youth in custody, was because of their parents coming from poverty.

You don't know that. You've no evidence to support it.
So why did you make your original statement, without evidence?

Hundreds if not thousands of studies confirming the impact of lower socioeconomic living and crime. I suggest you have a look.

 

[10571z]

Do you think it's likely or unlikely?

Extremely unlikely.

 

[10571z]

CM86 why do you think Sudanese/South Sudanese are over represented

 

[quotemokc]

Young man charged over alleged stabbing in iPhone Marketplace deal

The victims left a trail of blood along a suburban Perth street.

7news.com.au

This stabbing could have easily been a homicide as well.

In this case it was Africans attacking Indians.