Why boycotting Israel matters

[strauchnyy]

Quoting Blot!!!! Now there's desperation for you. Wasn't he the bloke found in a court of law to have published a piece that contained serious errors of fact, distortions of the truth, careless research, was racially prejudicial, and inflammatory? Ooops!

So long as you live in your deluded world pumping out misinformation and supporting the oppression of Palestinians and the annexation of their land there won't be a solution. Sadly, it's people like you who are part of the problem not part of the solution. It's heartening to see your antediluvian views are receding, so there's hope.

LOL

Muslim attacks jew, and you deflect by rambling on how you hate the writer who was reporting facts. Nice one. Would you act the same if it was the other way around?

Another typical response from your deluded one-way biased anti Israel agenda. You are an apologist of islamic terror and have an inability to conceptualize logic and reason, or the greater context. You're not that bright are you? Israel is here to stay, and you and your like need to accept that. Blaming one side for EVERYTHING and living in la la land and justifying terror to aid your ignorant biased drivel is exactly what the problem is.

Your ramblings (and quotes directly from racist BDS opinions and anti israel propoganda) are not facts. They are opinions of those who are also misguided and biased in their view. I.e. you post people's opinions and pass them off as facts. It is a common denominator in anti-israel hatred. Your ramblings have consistently been proven incorrect by Zidane98 and others! You've absolutely copped a thrashing and you've been discredited by facts. It is clear for all to see. No sir, you are part of the problem.

Have you been to the region? have you spent time there witnessing things first hand? I doubt it. I on the other hand have. I volunteered in an Arab town in Israel and traveled around the country, staying with both Arabs and Jews. I have seen what it's like. From my first hand experience, there is a deep ingrained hatred that all palestinians have for jews, that is celebrated and supported within their families. This is not the case from what I saw from Israelis, who actually care more about living their lives and do not hate the palestinians. You on the other hand are a keyboard warrior with a fixated anti-Israel opinion who posts biased anti-israel views as a confirmation bias, without having the slightest clue on what's actually happening.

If you truly care about peace (which you obviously don't) then answer this very simple question.

- What would you do if you were the Israeli PM to attain peace whilst the Palestinians lead by Hamas prefer to attack jews over peace and refuse to live peacefully side by side. Do you give up land (and face imminent suicide bombings)? What would you do? genuinely curious to hear.

 

[AM]

LOL

Muslim attacks jew, and you deflect by rambling on how you hate the writer who was reporting facts. Nice one. Would you act the same if it was the other way around?

I really do wonder about your comprehension. You don't appear have the foggiest idea of what is opinion and what is fact. Or appreciate that when you use a person as a source who has been proven to be unreliable then it's reasonable to draw attention to that matter.

My reference to Bolt was not mine it was Justice Mordecai Bromberg and if you want his precise finding on the Bolt articles in the matter it was "they contained errors of fact, distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language" That is the fact.

Another typical response from your deluded one-way biased anti Israel agenda. You are an apologist of islamic terror and have an inability to conceptualize logic and reason, or the greater context. You're not that bright are you? Israel is here to stay, and you and your like need to accept that. Blaming one side for EVERYTHING and living in la la land and justifying terror to aid your ignorant biased drivel is exactly what the problem is.

Where did I say Israel is not here to stay? Once again you show a complete lack of comprehension. My whole quest is for a just peace in the area. Nor have I blamed one side for everything. I've said Hamas aren't choir boys and some of their actions have been disgraceful. At the time I also mentioned that it was the Hamas Israel supported during the Arafat period.

My bias has always been for the oppressed and battler particularly when they are against the might of successive governments who have occupied land, illegally bombed using white phosphorous, used snipers to murder innocents, continue to illegally annexe land, keep fellow humans in a caged environment, breaking into homes terrorising the inhabitants and continuing the demolition of Palestinian homes. I've used first-hand accounts by a former Israel soldier in the sniper unit. Of another soldier who witnessed the invasion of homes. The fraudulent use of an Australian passport in an assassination attempt is well documented and led to a diplomatic incident. The schoolchildren who wrote they wouldn't "take part in the occupation and oppression" by joining the army. The Rabbinical College that said "not in our name".The corruption of the leadership is well known. Olmert was found guilty of corruption and Netanyahu is facing allegations of bribery, fraud and breach of trust. I've linked to authentic pieces showing the continued annexation of land and the government of Israel doesn't deny it in any event. Try and assimilate and comprehend rather that post emotive drivel from dubious sources.

Your ramblings (and quotes directly from racist BDS opinions and anti israel propoganda) are not facts. They are opinions of those who are also misguided and biased in their view. I.e. you post people's opinions and pass them off as facts. It is a common denominator in anti-israel hatred. Your ramblings have consistently been proven incorrect by Zidane98 and others! You've absolutely copped a thrashing and you've been discredited by facts. It is clear for all to see. No sir, you are part of the problem.

You really live in a parallel universe. Even a pro- Israeli poster who has some sense of balance refuted one of Zidanes more fanciful outbursts. And, once again, had you the wit to assimilate and comprehend you'd have noted my information has come from a variety of well founded sources, many first-hand.

I have far from a hatred of Israel. Most of my references have come from decent concerned Israelis who are the hope for the future. It's successive brutal Zionist governments I'm opposed to. And people like you who can't distinguish between fact and fiction and who just want to shout Zionist propaganda or -to once again reference Justice Bromberg - errors of fact and distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language.

Have you been to the region? have you spent time there witnessing things first hand? I doubt it. I on the other hand have. I volunteered in an Arab town in Israel and traveled around the country, staying with both Arabs and Jews. I have seen what it's like. From my first hand experience, there is a deep ingrained hatred that all palestinians have for jews, that is celebrated and supported within their families. This is not the case from what I saw from Israelis, who actually care more about living their lives and do not hate the palestinians. You on the other hand are a keyboard warrior with a fixated anti-Israel opinion who posts biased anti-israel views as a confirmation bias, without having the slightest clue on what's actually happening.

There you go again with your emotive outbursts. I'm sure there are Palestinians who have disdain for those who oppress them and do so with violence. Who wouldn't? As I've posted I see myself as peaceful but if someone illegally entered my home and threatened me or my family I'd be a tad pissed off too and all bets would be off. But to extend that to all Palestinians is arrant nonsense. In my experience most want peaceful co-existence. Why would they not as they live in misery and fear now.

The hope is for those I've mentioned, the wonderful compassionate Jewish folk and others - many Australian Jews - who earnestly seek a just peaceful solution.

Yes, I've been to Israel many times. Worked on a Kibbutz in my student days. A fabulous experience. And travelled quite extensively through the Middle East too.

If you truly care about peace (which you obviously don't) then answer this very simple question.

- What would you do if you were the Israeli PM to attain peace whilst the Palestinians lead by Hamas prefer to attack jews over peace and refuse to live peacefully side by side. Do you give up land (and face imminent suicide bombings)? What would you do? genuinely curious to hear.

The overwhelming majority of the aggression is coming from Israel. It's well documented.

Nethanyahu doesn't want peace. He wouldn't continue annexing land, have encouraged Trump to move the US embassy to Jerusalem, allowed the violent use of the army, including the shooting of innocents, -just in recent times- if he was genuine. And he's a dubious character anyway.

The world needs another Yitzhak Rabin in which case he should cease hostility including the demolition of homes, the annexation of land and the illegal occupation on the West Bank. Those things would be showing the hand of friendship.

Like Gideon Levy I'm not sure if a two state solution is viable. A one state with equal rights is his ideal, which would be wonderful. A miracle perhaps.

The reason boycotts appear the only way to achieve peace is because Israel is so dependent economically on the enormous support - particularly from the US - they aren't about to turn their back on that anytime soon. And let's not forget Jewish organisations outside Germany advocated international boycotts in order to bring down the National Socialists - quite properly too.

 

[strauchnyy]

I really do wonder about your comprehension. You don't appear have the foggiest idea of what is opinion and what is fact. Or appreciate that when you use a person as a source who has been proven to be unreliable then it's reasonable to draw attention to that matter.

My reference to Bolt was not mine it was Justice Mordecai Bromberg and if you want his precise finding on the Bolt articles in the matter it was "they contained errors of fact, distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language" That is the fact.

Wow, the deflection is real in this one. The point is not who reported it, the point is a muslim attacked a jew because of his hatred of Israel. It has been reported in different media outlets and the fact Bolt reported on it is not the point, nor has any meaning to the incident itself. Your ability to twist and change events to suit your narrative (i.e. to discredit and ignore the fact a muslim attacked a jew) is clear to see.

If you were truly unbiased, you would note it for what it is. Instead , because you are biased and completely one sided, you choose to twist it by discreditin the individual who reported the facts and try to imply it did not occur because it. Woweee.

Where did I say Israel is not here to stay? Once again you show a complete lack of comprehension. My whole quest is for a just peace in the area. Nor have I blamed one side for everything. I've said Hamas aren't choir boys and some of their actions have been disgraceful. At the time I also mentioned that it was the Hamas Israel supported during the Arafat period.

My bias has always been for the oppressed and battler particularly when they are against the might of successive governments who have occupied land, illegally bombed using white phosphorous, used snipers to murder innocents, continue to illegally annexe land, keep fellow humans in a caged environment, breaking into homes terrorising the inhabitants and continuing the demolition of Palestinian homes. I've used first-hand accounts by a former Israel soldier in the sniper unit. Of another soldier who witnessed the invasion of homes. The fraudulent use of an Australian passport in an assassination attempt is well documented and led to a diplomatic incident. The schoolchildren who wrote they wouldn't "take part in the occupation and oppression" by joining the army. The Rabbinical College that said "not in our name".The corruption of the leadership is well known. Olmert was found guilty of corruption and Netanyahu is facing allegations of bribery, fraud and breach of trust. I've linked to authentic pieces showing the continued annexation of land and the government of Israel doesn't deny it in any event. Try and assimilate and comprehend rather that post emotive drivel from dubious sources.

There is so much wrong with this part, I don't know where to start. I've picked out my favourite bits of your ramblings below. It is astounding how you can bend and twist things to suit your factually inaccurate narrative.

Snipers to murder innocents - this is a biased misguided statement. innocents? what innocents? IDF shot at dangerous attackers in a military zone (mostly hamas terrorists - as confirmed by hamas) who were trying to break in and "eat the livers of the jews". Australia would act no differently if in Israel's shoes. To the lady who died and was used as a propoganda item by fairfax, why was she there in a military zone? Why did Hamas urge civilians to enter the military zone? Human shields is a tactic used by hamas (admitted themselves). This is Hamas's complete disregard for human life, not on Israel's hands.

breaking into homes terrorising the inhabitants and continuing the demolition of Palestinian homes - context, context mate. Let's try to explain this so even you can understand it (wont hold my breath). Let's say aussie police storm a house of a suspected terrorist planning an attack. Would you say that the evil one in this situation are the police? You are. You are basically calling out how evil Australian police are after storming into a house, pushing around the home owner and taking them away in cuffs. In reality, you ignore the wider picture and context ,that is the police are storming a house of an evil individual so they can prevent future attcks. The IDF can make mistakes from time to time, like any army, but breaking into houses of known islamic terrorists is necessary to prevent terrorism. Did you know families of terrorists get paid a hefty salary by their leaders for killing jews? being a terorist What are your thoughts on suicide bombers whose family gets paid a salary for killing women and children?

The schoolchildren who wrote they wouldn't "take part in the occupation and oppression" - In israel, different opinions are welcomed in society. Of course there are some against the government's policies. This is completely unlike how it is in Gaza, where there are public executions for those who do not obey. Where is your "bias for the oppressed" here?

The corruption of the leadership is well known - you mention some Israeli corruption, I raise you the billions stolen by Arafat. The billions in Palestinian aid that Hamas steal from their own people. The concrete material that Israel give the Palestinians in gaza to rebuild which are then used to build terror tunnels. LOL mate, whilst you have no argument from me in terms of some Israeli corruption, it is a mere drop compared to the Palestinian corruption.

You really live in a parallel universe. Even a pro- Israeli poster who has some sense of balance refuted one of Zidanes more fanciful outbursts. And, once again, had you the wit to assimilate and comprehend you'd have noted my information has come from a variety of well founded sources, many first-hand.

I have far from a hatred of Israel. Most of my references have come from decent concerned Israelis who are the hope for the future. It's successive brutal Zionist governments I'm opposed to. And people like you who can't distinguish between fact and fiction and who just want to shout Zionist propaganda or -to once again reference Justice Bromberg - errors of fact and distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language.

No, your references have come from your idol Mr Levy. Well Mr Levy is not the king of Jews nor does he represent what is right or wrong. He is merely one opinion. You happen to share that opinion, and use it as a self confirmation bias as it suits your misguided narrative. You are the one passing this off as fact.

There you go again with your emotive outbursts. I'm sure there are Palestinians who have disdain for those who oppress them and do so with violence. Who wouldn't? As I've posted I see myself as peaceful but if someone illegally entered my home and threatened me or my family I'd be a tad pissed off too and all bets would be off. But to extend that to all Palestinians is arrant nonsense. In my experience most want peaceful co-existence. Why would they not as they live in misery and fear now.

The hope is for those I've mentioned, the wonderful compassionate Jewish folk and others - many Australian Jews - who earnestly seek a just peaceful solution.

Yes, I've been to Israel many times. Worked on a Kibbutz in my student days. A fabulous experience. And travelled quite extensively through the Middle East too.

Re the bolded part proves you are an apologist for islamic terror. When a palestinian stabs an israeli 70 year old in a cafe to death, this is justifiable to you?

Not every palestinian is a terrorist, but the sheer fact that anti-semetism is indoctrinated into their schooling, into their tv shows is child abuse and has no comparison with any other community on earth. The fact they have hamas training camps for kids to grow into future terrorists is completely disgusting. They hate Israel more than you admit.

Israel should not continue their settlement expansion. But Israel is not doing anything ilegal by existing. There is no justification for terrorism.

The overwhelming majority of the aggression is coming from Israel. It's well documented.

Nethanyahu doesn't want peace. He wouldn't continue annexing land, have encouraged Trump to move the US embassy to Jerusalem, allowed the violent use of the army, including the shooting of innocents, -just in recent times- if he was genuine. And he's a dubious character anyway.

The world needs another Yitzhak Rabin in which case he should cease hostility including the demolition of homes, the annexation of land and the illegal occupation on the West Bank. Those things would be showing the hand of friendship.

Like Gideon Levy I'm not sure if a two state solution is viable. A one state with equal rights is his ideal, which would be wonderful. A miracle perhaps.

The reason boycotts appear the only way to achieve peace is because Israel is so dependent economically on the enormous support - particularly from the US - they aren't about to turn their back on that anytime soon. And let's not forget Jewish organisations outside Germany advocated international boycotts in order to bring down the National Socialists - quite properly too.

So your answer to my question is have one country with equal rights?

Not only have you disregarded the fact that Israeli-arabs already have equal rights, you have ignored the fact that Hamas reject your soloution. Their goal is to kill all the jews and establish an islamic nation (like isis) where israel is. In your solution, you open your civilians to attacks from palestinians who want violence. History has shown they choose violence over peace every time. The fact your answer ignores these 2 things shows how clueless you are with the situation. You are completely unaware of the reality that is - Hamas/Palestinian leadership keep trying to attack israeli civilians and peace cannot be achieved until they stop their violence.

As is the famous quote: If the Palestinians lower their guns, there will be peace, if the Israelis lower their guns there will be no Israel.

 

[AM]

strauchnyy. Please don't embarrass yourself by continuing to repeat your uninformed drivel. I've responded to your jejune stuff but you're are either really thick or content to parrot the Zionist lines. Or both. It seems on the basis that if you repeat the same distortions with sufficient conviction people will believe them. Fortunately most are much sharper than you - not that that would be hard.

If you quote a source that has no credibility expect it to be queried. Not that hard to understand.

Israel has acted in defiance of the Geneva Convention, a ruling by the International Court of Justice, multiple sanctions by the UN. To quote from Institute for Middle East Understanding:

Virtually the entire international community, including the United Nations Security Council, the International Court of Justice, the International Committee of the Red Cross, and human rights organizations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, consider Israel’s settlement enterprise to be illegal. Official American policy also does not recognize the legality of settlements, although for political reasons US officials normally refer to them as “illegitimate” rather than illegal.

The matters you deflect have been properly sourced including video evidence, it's just you are either not interested in improving your knowledge base or only have the wit to regurgitate Zionist propaganda.

Your references to some corruption on the other side - to you that is - isn't disputed. Had you assimilated that you wouldn't have wasted time going down the 'whataboutism' path. I do understand why you prefer the misdirection though - you do it a lot.

Israeli Arabs have equal rights. Sure, ask those who are having their homes demolished illegally. And ask Kalida Jarrar a Palestinian elected member of Parliament who has been in custody for ages without charge.


The reference to one state with equal rights was aspirational. Some of us dare to dream. Others, like you, are happy to keep a people in misery and fear and push propaganda. As I've said you and propagandists like you are the problem, not the solution.

 

[AM]

Sad passing of holocaust survivor and fighter for good. Vale Felicia Langer.

What did this brave and courageous woman fight against? Against torture by the Shin Bet security service at a time when we didn’t believe that such torture existed, yet it was at the peak of its cruelty. She fought against the expulsion of political activists, against false arrests, against home demolitions. Above all, she fought for the enforcement of international law from which Israel decided to except itself on unbelievable grounds. That’s what she fought and that is why she was considered a public enemy.

HAARETZ

 

[AM]

In contrast, Israel is squeezing the living space of Palestinian residents, who enjoy no civil or political rights. With the aid of laws, special regulations and military orders it shuts them out of the areas it has allotted to its citizens and for its military training activities. It delineates and then expropriates their private and public land on the basis of rules it sets down for the sole benefit of its own citizens. It confines their villages by surrounding them with fences and barriers, destroys houses and refuses to allow them to expand; it imposes collective punishments, detains thousands of men, women and minors, tries them in a military court system and imprisons them in its sovereign territory.

 

[Fat Yak]

HERALDSUN.COM.AU

SUSPEND AID TO PALESTINE NOW
We should review all aid to Palestine:

 

[Sainteric]

HERALDSUN.COM.AU

SUSPEND AID TO PALESTINE NOW
We should review all aid to Palestine:

The UN and aid are part of the problem it allows Palestine to survive on others peoples money indefinitely. Which in turn means they never have to negotiate, face the fact their leaders are terrorists, deal with the problem or provide their people with a better life.

Now some might see this as a pro Israel right wing view. But believe it or not if we said the money train for the Palestinians was turned off in five years it would be in Israel's best interest to encourage a successful palestine. Some in Israel are scared what trump might do, and not in a way the left thinks. He has given them their capital now he may make them responsible for supporting the Palestinians and not the US. This would drive Israel to try to make better terms.

Another benefit may be just like the comunists may only being in charge of China as long as the economy staying strong. Hamas etc would probably be swept aside if the Palestinians had a chance at a better life.

 

[Fat Yak]

Australians refuse to fund Islamic terror.


9NEWS.COM.AU

Australia stops direct aid to Palestine - 9News
Australia is stopping its direct aid to Palestine, and will instead give to the United Nations' humanitaria...

 

[AM]

The UN and aid are part of the problem it allows Palestine to survive on others peoples money indefinitely. Which in turn means they never have to negotiate, face the fact their leaders are terrorists, deal with the problem or provide their people with a better life.

Now some might see this as a pro Israel right wing view. But believe it or not if we said the money train for the Palestinians was turned off in five years it would be in Israel's best interest to encourage a successful palestine. Some in Israel are scared what trump might do, and not in a way the left thinks. He has given them their capital now he may make them responsible for supporting the Palestinians and not the US. This would drive Israel to try to make better terms.

Another benefit may be just like the comunists may only being in charge of China as long as the economy staying strong. Hamas etc would probably be swept aside if the Palestinians had a chance at a better life.

I'm surprised that as one of the few pro Israel supporters here with a degree of perspective you'd trot this stuff out.

The aid that goes to Palestinians from the UN is essentially humanitarian in nature. If it was to be cut it would lead to a further humanitarian crisis particularly in Gaza and make the situation worse.

As for military aid the U.S provides Israel with $10.1 million a day in aid. The Palestinians zero.

The unemployment rate in Israel around 5% while the unemployment rate in Gaza is approaching 45%.

One people are living in penury, fear, having their basic human rights violated and their land annexed by the day. The other people live largely unaffected due in no small measure to U.S support and generous donors. It's fairly easy to work out which people benefit from the continuation of the tension and hostilities I'd suggest.

 

[Sainteric]

I'm surprised that as one of the few pro Israel supporters here with a degree of perspective you'd trot this stuff out.

The aid that goes to Palestinians from the UN is essentially humanitarian in nature. If it was to be cut it would lead to a further humanitarian crisis particularly in Gaza and make the situation worse.

As for military aid the U.S provides Israel with $10.1 million a day in aid. The Palestinians zero.

The unemployment rate in Israel around 5% while the unemployment rate in Gaza is approaching 45%.

One people are living in penury, fear, having their basic human rights violated and their land annexed by the day. The other people live largely unaffected due in no small measure to U.S support and generous donors. It's fairly easy to work out which people benefit from the continuation of the tension and hostilities I'd suggest.

We just moved 10 million because it would have gone to hamas, it's not all humanitarian.

 

[AM]

We just moved 10 million because it would have gone to hamas, it's not all humanitarian.

That would be the Hamas that Israel gave aid and comfort to in the Arafat days.

All the UN aid is directed for humanitarian purposes and that's where it is headed. In this day and age where unfortunately some may game the system there may be some leakage. People like, say, Olmert and the Netanyahu's who game the system for example. But the overwhelmingly proportion goes to assist the oppressed and poor.

There is absolutely no doubt about who benefits from the tension and hostility in the region. To argue otherwise is silly and you're better than that.

As I see it there are only two ways to force the Zionists to the table with genuine intent for peace. One is boycotts. The other is for the Arab states to form a solid block behind the Palestinians both militarily and economically as the Zionists have in relation to Israel. As the leadership of states like Saudi Arabia is as corrupt as the leadership of Israel I wouldn't hold my breath on the latter.

BTW. Just in contemporary times, if Israeli was serious about peace it would not have prevailed on Trump to take the provocative action of moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. Not one of the other big players in world affairs intends doing so because they know full well it is antithetical to achieving peace.

 

[AM]

How thoughtful and neighborly.


Our government are sycophants. And Labor wouldn't be any better.

 

[Sainteric]

That would be the Hamas that Israel gave aid and comfort to in the Arafat days.

All the UN aid is directed for humanitarian purposes and that's where it is headed. In this day and age where unfortunately some may game the system there may be some leakage. People like, say, Olmert and the Netanyahu's who game the system for example. But the overwhelmingly proportion goes to assist the oppressed and poor.

There is absolutely no doubt about who benefits from the tension and hostility in the region. To argue otherwise is silly and you're better than that.

As I see it there are only two ways to force the Zionists to the table with genuine intent for peace. One is boycotts. The other is for the Arab states to form a solid block behind the Palestinians both militarily and economically as the Zionists have in relation to Israel. As the leadership of states like Saudi Arabia is as corrupt as the leadership of Israel I wouldn't hold my breath on the latter.

BTW. Just in contemporary times, if Israeli was serious about peace it would not have prevailed on Trump to take the provocative action of moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. Not one of the other big players in world affairs intends doing so because they know full well it is antithetical to achieving peace.

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, the Palestinians need to start negotiating.

 

[AM]

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, the Palestinians need to start negotiating.

Reprising Zionist propaganda does you no favours.

Let's just ignore the inconvenient truth of the occupation in the late 1940s.

Or that Israel annexed east Jerusalem after the Six-Day War and in typical fashion declared the whole city to be theirs under their law. Under international law that is regarded as illegal. Nor does the UN recognise Israel's right to exclude Palestine.

This was yet another provocative act designed to ensure tension continues in the area because the Zionists consider it in Israel's interests to continue the oppression and cruelty. And it is why no other international power has followed Trump.

Until Israel is genuine there will be no peace and why boycotts - something Israel has advocated in the past and is practicing now- are necessary.

 

[Fat Yak]

Poor Innocent Palestinians.

 

[Sainteric]

Reprising Zionist propaganda does you no favours.

Let's just ignore the inconvenient truth of the occupation in the late 1940s.

Or that Israel annexed east Jerusalem after the Six-Day War and in typical fashion declared the whole city to be theirs under their law. Under international law that is regarded as illegal. Nor does the UN recognise Israel's right to exclude Palestine.

This was yet another provocative act designed to ensure tension continues in the area because the Zionists consider it in Israel's interests to continue the oppression and cruelty. And it is why no other international power has followed Trump.

Until Israel is genuine there will be no peace and why boycotts - something Israel has advocated in the past and is practicing now- are necessary.

Same old leftist twaddle

The Knesset, Yad Vashem, the central bank, the supreme court, the national university are all in Jeruselem. If you recognize Israel exists, if you recognize their right to exist and not support them being pushed back into the sea, then you recognize Jeruselem is the capital of Israel. International law means basically nothing, proposed borders from 70 years ago even less, the Palestinians have to negotiate.

 

[AM]

Same old leftist twaddle

The Knesset, Yad Vashem, the central bank, the supreme court, the national university are all in Jeruselem. If you recognize Israel exists, if you recognize their right to exist and not support them being pushed back into the sea, then you recognize Jeruselem is the capital of Israel. International law means basically nothing, proposed borders from 70 years ago even less, the Palestinians have to negotiate.

Not only more from the AIJAC song sheet but not even showing some sequential thought. The bodies you mentioned are Israel imposed. My comment was in relation to the provocative act by Trump and that "no other international power has followed Trump". To make it clearer not Canada, France, Italy, Germany, United Kingdom, China, Greece, even Australia etc, etc, etc, etc. So thanks for making my point so well.

Had you said international law means nothing to Israel then I'd agree. That is because successive Israeli governments are laws unto themselves and get away with flagrant abuses. Had you read and understood the piece I linked you'd have noted that reality. Had it not been for the ICC and associated entities countless individuals guilty of crimes would never have been indicted.

One people are subjected to oppression, violation of basic human rights, continued annexation of land, cruelty and even murder. The other live basically unaffected due in large part to the enormous economic support it gets. It's not theoretical physics to know who benefits from the continued tension and hostility.

The fact that no other major country has sort to derail possible peace talks by the provocative action of moving their embassy speaks volumes. Every time peace gets near the government of Israel takes action to derail it.

 

[AM]

And this is the country whose apologists say want peace and the downtrodden on the other side are those getting in the way. Fair dinkum, that's what they are asking us to swallow.

 

[Fat Yak]

Oh Those Poor Innocent Palestinians.

The Israel Defense Forces have taken steps in preparation to demolish the house of the terrorist responsible for Sunday's stabbing attack in Jerusalem's Old City, which left one Israeli dead. The attack comes two days after two Israeli soldiers were killed in a West Bank car-ramming attack. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed on Saturday that Israel would demolish the home of the Palestinian responsible for the attack.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...terrorist-jerusalem-stabbing-attack-1.5913638

 

[strauchnyy]

Not only more from the AIJAC song sheet but not even showing some sequential thought.

Are you trying to sweep facts (that disprove your lefty dribble) under the carpet? I.e facts that go against what you think are propaganda?

You realise the exact same argument can be used on you to say your ramblings are straight out of the anti-israel racist BDS fact sheet.

I'm afraid you've reached new levels of nonsense.

 

[strauchnyy]

Good to see Israeli technology (diving equipment / rescue oepration) and an Israeli has been used to help save the Thai kids stuck in the cave.

But AM thinks we should boycott this as well?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israe...ommunications-link-to-cave-trapped-thai-boys/

I presume AM does not use a computer or smart phone as well if he truly wants to boycott Israel.

 

[SilentHunter_]

No country under severe US influence is going to boycott Israel. The Zionist and Fundamentalist lobbies in the US are too powerful. In fact the most powerful right next to the gun and pharmaceutical lobbies. Not to mention the US Congress. So it is not happening.

 

[strauchnyy]

Oh Those Poor Innocent Palestinians.

The Israel Defense Forces have taken steps in preparation to demolish the house of the terrorist responsible for Sunday's stabbing attack in Jerusalem's Old City, which left one Israeli dead. The attack comes two days after two Israeli soldiers were killed in a West Bank car-ramming attack. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed on Saturday that Israel would demolish the home of the Palestinian responsible for the attack.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...terrorist-jerusalem-stabbing-attack-1.5913638

Just wait for the BDS following anti-semetic lefty brigade to shout out how cruel the evil jews are.

That poor Palestinian.. his home is worth way more than two Israelis lives.

 

[Rob R]

Reprising Zionist propaganda does you no favours.

Let's just ignore the inconvenient truth of the occupation in the late 1940s.

Or that Israel annexed east Jerusalem after the Six-Day War and in typical fashion declared the whole city to be theirs under their law. Under international law that is regarded as illegal. Nor does the UN recognise Israel's right to exclude Palestine.

This was yet another provocative act designed to ensure tension continues in the area because the Zionists consider it in Israel's interests to continue the oppression and cruelty. And it is why no other international power has followed Trump.

Until Israel is genuine there will be no peace and why boycotts - something Israel has advocated in the past and is practicing now- are necessary.

Peace will only be possible when the Palestinian terrorist leadership is behind bars for crimes against humanity; their supporters agree to pay compensation to the Israeli people; and the Palestinians acknowledge Israel's right to live in peace rather than demanding their extermination. Most Palestinians are probably decent people, it is just their leadership who are the Nazi's of the modern era pushing them into acts of terror by keeping them poor by diverting aid to weapons and their own power bases.