Why do we have to suffer AFLW on Fox 504?

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Alf is a brand , 18 teams is there product . People are interested in the brand . The Afl will milk aflw and have trades and drafts because people are interested in this with Afl.
 

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You could claim that, it's subjective isn't it? A lot of people would prefer AFLW to AFLM.
My point was more all the people rushing into this thread letting everyone know that the athletic capacity of Women is less than Men, but as far as I'm aware nobody is making that argument in the first place
 

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My point was more all the people rushing into this thread letting everyone know that the athletic capacity of Women is less than Men, but as far as I'm aware nobody is making that argument in the first place
The only valid gripe I can think of is when AFLW content is shown on AFLM shows, if you're not interested in AFLW then that would be annoying.
 
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As some corroboration of this, albeit in a different sport, Serena Williams herself told David Letterman in 2013, when asked if she
would play that year’s Wimbledon winner Andy Murray, - “Men’s tennis and women’s tennis are completely, almost, two separate sports. If I were to play Andy Murray, I would lose 6-0, 6-0 in five to six minutes, maybe 10 minutes...The men are a lot faster and they serve harder, they hit harder; it’s just a different game. I love to play women’s tennis. I only want to play girls, because I don’t want to be embarrassed.”

Stripped of the PC narrative and associated agendas, that says it all, re women's and men's sport [except possibly sailing and equestrianism (both my sports in younger days)]. And field hockey - I am happy paying to see women's field hockey.
Not really. That quote is her talking about playing tennis against a man, but I don't think anybody here is advocating that women should be playing against men in footy. No one is trying to claim that AFLW teams would be competitive against AFL teams either.
As hard as this may be for you to believe, for many people women's sport is about more than a bloody PC narrative and agendas. Has it occurred to you that women enjoy playing sports to have fun with their friends just like many blokes do? Or to achieve team successes and so on? Or do you just think that is all part of the associated agendas as well? For me it is almost depressing that people like yourself feel that all it comes down to is this said agenda and that people are only involved as some kind of virtue signalling and bending to political correctness. If you ever happen to have an honest, respectful conversation with people involved in womens footy, you'd probably realise there's a bit more to it than that.
 

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Lol!! When she starts potting goals from 60m out off one step then I’ll excuse her for “carrying a few extra pounds”.
Ok you win, no women's player can kick it 60m+ off one step. The player in question is nonetheless a very nice set-shot, can certainly cover 50m pretty casually:


Fwiw as a self-appointed AFLW expert, I've been quite critical of Perko (lucky to be picked up by the Crows, lucky not to be delisted after a bad second season) but have found her very fun to watch, a really engaging personality out on the field. People always lament a shortage of "characters" when it comes to the modern game, no such problem in this league.
 

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The thing to consider in this thread is that if you're an adult male, you're not the target market for AFLW.

If you're a youngster who happens to be a girl, there is now the prospect of a professional, well paid future for you in Aussie Rules.

And that's to be celebrated.

Arguments around gulfs in class and quality are inevitable when the privileged realise that there can be a thing that doesn't exist solely for them.
 

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Not really. That quote is her talking about playing tennis against a man, but I don't think anybody here is advocating that women should be playing against men in footy. No one is trying to claim that AFLW teams would be competitive against AFL teams either.
As hard as this may be for you to believe, for many people women's sport is about more than a bloody PC narrative and agendas. Has it occurred to you that women enjoy playing sports to have fun with their friends just like many blokes do? Or to achieve team successes and so on? Or do you just think that is all part of the associated agendas as well? For me it is almost depressing that people like yourself feel that all it comes down to is this said agenda and that people are only involved as some kind of virtue signalling and bending to political correctness. If you ever happen to have an honest, respectful conversation with people involved in womens footy, you'd probably realise there's a bit more to it than that.
Improve your text comprehension. The Serena quote in my post was related to [if you trace thru the thread] Jezza's comment above: "For some of us, AFLW is a recognition that women can reach the same professional level of sport that men can".

Serena blew that soundbite out of the water. You got a problem with that - go talk with Serena.

PS I have no problem with women playing footy. That is not the issue. What interests me is the AFLW hype and the politics, and if you think that AFLW is not driven by these factors, then you are naive.
 
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Improve your text comprehension. The Serena quote in my post was related to [if you trace thru the thread] Jezza's comment above: "For some of us, AFLW is a recognition that women can reach the same professional level of sport that men can".

Serena blew that soundbite out of the water. You got a problem with that - go talk with Serena.

PS I have no problem with women playing footy. That is not the issue. What interests me is the AFLW hype and the politics, and if you think that AFLW is not driven by these factors, then you are naive.
It wasn't my comment as you say, but sure I traced through the thread and found it. Read the first few words again - "For some of us". So maybe not for you, but for some people, AFLW is a good thing because it gives women the opportunity to play football nationally and professionally like AFL. That's how it is meant to be comprehended.

You've obviously taken it to mean that AFLW teams are as good as AFL sides, which no one in their right mind would ever suggest. If you hadn't just cherry picked one line from Shadow's post, or even if you'd just read the next sentence, you would have known that was not the intention. "Undoubtedly, some of the women's skill levels are not up to the levels of the men, but their intent is there and the example they set for all the aspiring women is there too."

Haha couldn't give a rats tossbag about talking to Serena Williams. It's obvious what she meant, she's talking about her love for womens tennis, trying to bring down womens sport was the last thing she was trying to achieve.

PS if you have an issue with the politics, which is like gender equality and stuff, you probably do have problems with women playing footy
 

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Shouldn't the AFLW have their own channel if they really want to build their brand?

Why must the only AFL dedicated footy channel televise this sub standard form of the game instead of putting up some real football?

They seem to be having an AFLW feast at the moment, horrible to watch.

I love girls/ladies/women, but their standard of footy is hopeless and cringeworthy to watch.

The sooner the AFL realise this and abandon this doomed experiment the better.
you know you can record the footy games?
 

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It wasn't my comment as you say, but sure I traced through the thread and found it. Read the first few words again - "For some of us". So maybe not for you, but for some people, AFLW is a good thing because it gives women the opportunity to play football nationally and professionally like AFL. That's how it is meant to be comprehended.

You've obviously taken it to mean that AFLW teams are as good as AFL sides, which no one in their right mind would ever suggest. If you hadn't just cherry picked one line from Shadow's post, or even if you'd just read the next sentence, you would have known that was not the intention. "Undoubtedly, some of the women's skill levels are not up to the levels of the men, but their intent is there and the example they set for all the aspiring women is there too."

Haha couldn't give a rats tossbag about talking to Serena Williams. It's obvious what she meant, she's talking about her love for womens tennis, trying to bring down womens sport was the last thing she was trying to achieve.

PS if you have an issue with the politics, which is like gender equality and stuff, you probably do have problems with women playing footy
Emotional soundbites don't cut it bud - but there you go.

PS Just for the record, I don't have any problem with women playing football, as should be very clear from one of my postings in this thread. And what is also very clear is that you have no clue at all about the underlying 'politics' where the AFLW is just another front in the culture wars [but more for the SRP forum than here].
 

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The next time someone accuses me of been too into footy, I’ll direct them to this thread where people actually watch 504 in the off-season :$
Not saying I have a problem with being too into footy, but I've just spent a decent chunk of my time analysing what Fox Footy is broadcasting during the off season:

 
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