Society/Culture Why I blame Islam for the fact it's raining today....

[Procrastinator35]

Any proof to back that up
No Miss Summernats is not proof

So the image of drunk chicks flashing their breasts at the 'oh so common chant' of 'show us ya ****' aint enuf for you then?

 

[WA ROO]

So the image of drunk chicks flashing their breasts at the 'oh so common chant' of 'show us ya ****' aint enuf for you then?

Were they coerced?

 

[JackOutback]

Were they coerced?

Plenty of women aren't coerced to wear burkas but some seem to still have a problem with it.

Of course they could be culturally coerced... same for the example above

 

[Procrastinator35]

Were they coerced?

That's probably up for debate....But if you can't see that as a clear example of misogyny, then obviously we disagree on the meaning of the concept.

 

[lethal03]

Help me understand.

You want to be able to criticise islam without being labelled islamophobic?

Help me understand.

Criticising something makes you phobic of it?

 

[WA ROO]

That's probably up for debate....But if you can't see that as a clear example of misogyny, then obviously we disagree on the meaning of the concept.

Always thought Summernats was to take attention away from Iran-Contra

 

[WA ROO]

Plenty of women aren't coerced to wear burkas but some seem to still have a problem with it.

Of course they could be culturally coerced... same for the example above

Go to Canberra next year and see for yourself

 

[Procrastinator35]

Always thought Summernats was to take attention away from Iran-Contra

I didn't post it here m8....I was only questioning it's use as a culture critique.....It is what it is.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Help me understand.

Criticising something makes you phobic of it?

No.

But it's not criticism when you're floating some nonsense about muslims waiting for a precise moment to strike, or posting some rubbish about losing your country to islam. That's hateful ignorance.

Anyway, morons are free to say it, everyone else if free to call these morons out for the nonsense they dribble.

 

[Bleeeeeeeeep]

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...aturing-women-in-hijabs-removed-after-threats

 

[Werewolf]

That's probably up for debate....But if you can't see that as a clear example of misogyny, then obviously we disagree on the meaning of the concept.

Misogyny = hatred of women. Women being prosecuted for adultery after getting raped. Or having acid thrown in their faces after rejecting a scumbag. Closer to home, women being beaten to death. Bogans requesting toplessness is crass, nothing more.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Misogyny = hatred of women. Women being prosecuted for adultery after getting raped. Or having acid thrown in their faces after rejecting a scumbag. Closer to home, women being beaten to death. Bogans requesting toplessness is crass, nothing more.

You think that crassness stops at that? It doesnt.

 

[Werewolf]

You think that crassness stops at that? It doesnt.

Crassness can lead to misogyny/misandry but there is still a distinction between them. Trump was crass with his remarks 10 years ago, women (rarely) may be crass by asking a guy to get his package out, but obviously it's more often men who are crass.

Example of misandry - could be a troll but she seems serious:

 

[Malifice]

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...aturing-women-in-hijabs-removed-after-threats

Right wing nutjob: THEY FORM ENCLAVES AND WONT ASSIMILATE!
(Billboard posted encouraging Muslims to participate and enjoy Australia day).
Nek Minute...
Right wing nutjob: UNAUSTRALIAN PROPAGANDA!

Never change you fascist twits. Never change.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

A lot of the complaints came from a group led by a steroid riddled neo nazi who's done time for stalking and arson.

 

[skilts]

A lot of the complaints came from a group led by a steroid riddled neo nazi who's done time for stalking and arson.

Sounds like a versatile chappy.

 

[evo]

Looking forward to visiting Japan for the first time next week.

This dude always makes thought provoking vids:

 

[Paul Kersey]

Looking forward to visiting Japan for the first time next week.

This dude always makes thought provoking vids:

Great country. Been there ten times. Go over to the lifestyle board and post any queries in the Japan thread.

 

[Malifice]

Footnote to the billboard story. The picture on the billboard (zoomed back) was this:

It was taken at Australia day last year.

“Those hijabs are offensive to me because of what they stand for.”

“They deserve abuse & threats,” wrote another.

“I hope it was directed at the incompetent idiot scum bag who designed this absolute lie and insult to real Australian’s (sic).”

“Good, should have never been put up there in the first place, it doesn’t represent Australia Day or Australia in the slightest. In a way it was advertising a religion and religion has nothing to do with Australia Day,” said another commenter.

This is what we've become eh?

 

[TooFar]

The picture is contrary to our liberal Australian values, as it shows the forced subjugation of pre-pubescent girls via a tool of oppression. The image is being used to condition Australians into accepting Shariah law.

 

[Malifice]

The picture is contrary to our liberal Australian values, as it shows the forced subjugation of pre-pubescent girls via a tool of oppression.

So... is it your position that we should never publicly show or depcit a person of the Islamic faith? Should we bar them from the telly as well?

What other steps should we take to exclude Muslims from participation in ordinary society? And how does that encourage assimilation, or deter enclaves forming?

Muslims have as much right to be featured on a billboard as do Jews, Christians or Athiests. Thats what liberal values are you clown.

The image is being used to condition Australians into accepting Shariah law.

No, its not. Its being used to show diversity and encourage assimilation and participation in Australia day by immigrants (in particular the Islamic community, who are having a hard time doing this at the moment thanks to people with opinions like yours).

Those girls go to Australia day last year, and get into it (just like we want them to). A Photo gets taken. Now you're saying they should be prohibited (on account of their faith) from being a visual spokesman for assimilation and Australia day the following year.

And you wonder why enclaves form.

 

[Thats Wright]

So... is it your position that we should never publicly show or depcit a person of the Islamic faith? Should we bar them from the telly as well?

What other steps should we take to exclude Muslims from participation in ordinary society? And how does that encourage assimilation, or deter enclaves forming?

Muslims have as much right to be featured on a billboard as do Jews, Christians or Athiests. Thats what liberal values are you clown.



No, its not. Its being used to show diversity and encourage assimilation and participation in Australia day by immigrants (in particular the Islamic community, who are having a hard time doing this at the moment thanks to people with opinions like yours).

Those girls go to Australia day last year, and get into it (just like we want them to). A Photo gets taken. Now you're saying they should be prohibited (on account of their faith) from being a visual spokesman for assimilation and Australia day the following year.

And you wonder why enclaves form.

Bill Hensen approves your message.

Doesn't make it right.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Bill Hensen approves your message.

Doesn't make it right.

What are you implying?

 

[Malifice]

Bill Hensen approves your message.

Doesn't make it right.

Do you want Muslims to assimilate/ integrate and attend Australia day events?

If the answer is 'yes' (and it is) then can you explain why a billboard like this is a bad idea?

Its depicting two happy kids waving Aussie flags at an Australia day event last year, and is intentionally pitched at encouraging assimilation via a message celebrating our diversity (and inclusiveness).

If they were waiving the Black Banner of Mohammed and not the Aussie Flag I could understand your reservations, but come on.

Or are you arguing that only 'Anglo Christian' kids are good enough to appear on an Australian day banner, and that Asians, Muslims, Jews, Sudanese, and so forth need not apply?

 

[Malifice]

Someone gets it:

“They complain Muslims don’t assimilate, then they complain about a photo and a billboard like this. It highlights the fact it is just plain racism. And it shows that Muslims are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

“We just want to see these two Australian girls put back up on a billboard about Australia Day.”

http://www.news.com.au/national/an-...d/news-story/39a4bd2721350a311effaaeea4e7ef9f