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So much I want to say to that video.

But I know I will just be met with links to clips from Jesus Camp or something, so I won’t bother.
Our friendly mod will be here to compare them to Westboro Baptist Church, which is one family, a couple of their friends and a dog, and say we can’t judge (multiple repeated instances like this from) Islam because uhh ... Christianity has some weirdos too!
 
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Our friendly mod will be here to compare them to Westboro Baptist Church, which is one family, a couple of their friends and a dog, and say we can’t judge (multiple repeated instances like this from) Islam because uhh ... Christianity has some weirdos too!
I think I know that person
 

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Is there a way I can express my views on Islam without being banned or getting attention from the powers on this site.
I note that you are a newcomer, so you probably are unaware of the way this site works.

Feel free to say whatever you like about anyone or any topic on this site, using any language you choose. Hate speech is particularly encouraged, at every opportunity.

Chief, the owner of this site, and all of those posters who have 'Admin', or the like, under their usernames, are extremely fond of new posters who argue irrationally, with vituperation and with a stylish use of personal insults. Derisive comments about the sexual predilections of other members' families and their unsavoury relationships with their pets are sure winners. Nobody on these boards restricts themselves to abuse of the self.

Stick within these guidelines and you can't go wrong. I look forward to many stimulating conversations with you in the future, as opposed to ones in the past.
 
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I note that you are a newcomer, so you probably are unaware of the way this site works.

Feel free to say whatever you like about anyone or any topic on this site, using any language you choose. Hate speech is particularly encouraged, at every opportunity.

Chief, the owner of this site, and all of those posters who have 'Admin', or the like, under their usernames, are extremely fond of new posters who argue irrationally, with vituperation and with a stylish use of personal insults. Derisive comments about the sexual predilections of other members' families and their unsavoury relationships with their pets are sure winners. Nobody on these boards restricts themselves to abuse of the self.

Stick within these guidelines and you can't go wrong. I look forward to a many stimulating conversations with you in the future, as opposed to ones in the past.
The poster can get all this and more when they preface everything with "orange man bad"
 

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Islamophobia is a ******** term with the term coming from the Muslim Brotherhood to stifle political discussion, and somehow to conflate a dislike or criticism of Islam as a religion or ideology with the hate or dislike of Muslims as people.

I can't see why someone cannot oppose Islam or Islamism without being described as a hater of Muslims. People don't hate Catholics if they criticise the inner-workings of the Catholic Church for whatever reason, if that's because of child abuse cases or tax-exempt reasons for example.

It seems to imply that people have an irrational fear of Islam when in reality most just dislike it but don't fear it.

I'd rather hear all sides on this. For what it's worth, I think heading down a path of banning Muslim immigration into Australia completely would be dangerous for various reasons, but if we silence one side of the argument who have valid concerns we will go around in circles and get nowhere on this issue.

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of people being called "racists" and "Islamophobes" very loosely and shutting down any chance of a sensible political discussion because a few people are offended.
Islam survives on fear. The fear that if they do not obey they will burn in hell for eternity. Christianity worked like this in the medieval period. The Quran in the eyes of Muslims is the word of God. It cannot be amended,negotiated or argued. Anyone that tries is an apostate. Moderate Muslims struggle to express what they believe for fear of being renounced. Instead we have a bunch of zealots stuck in the 8th Century. Check out the following...
 

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Saw this in various social media platforms. Is it legit? Freaking scary if so.
It's real. The Mulsim American Society is investigating and referring to it as “an unintended mistake and an oversight.”

Either no-one there speaks Arabic or they are full of ****.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_American_Society#Alleged_Terrorism_ties

In November 2014 MAS was designated a terrorist organization by the United Arab Emirates,[23][4][24][25] with 84 other organizations which included Al Qaida, Daesh, the Muslim Brotherhood and its regional and local affiliates, and other regional and international groups. MAS, CAIR and similar European groups were listed due to their Muslim Brotherhood ties.[5]

Jamal Balawi, one of the three MAS founders, is listed among the “unindicted co-conspirators” in the trial of the Holy Land Foundation, a charity for which he allegedly fundraised.[18] Balawi also notoriously endorsed “combative jihad” and suicide bombings, and publicly celebrated Hamas terrorists as “martyrs.”[26] A former MAS Communications Director, Randall Royer, was arrested in 2003 by federal agents and charged of conspiring with Lashkar-i-Taibi (Army of the Righteous), a Pakistani Wahhabi terrorist group to engage in terrorist operations in Chechnya, Kashmir and elsewhere.[27] Royer was a member of the “Virginia Jihad Network,” a network of jihadists centered in North Virginia, and he acknowledged supporting several members of that circle to access Lashkar-i-Taibi training camps.[27]

Finally, a significant number of advertisers in MAS publication The American Muslim, which often contain references to suicide bombings as martyr operations, were later uncovered by the U.S. authorities to be involved in terror financing.[28] It is worth mentioning in particular:

  • Global Relief Foundation, which had its assets frozen in 2002 for providing funding to al-Qaeda;[29][30]
  • KindHearts for Charitable Humanitarian Development, which the U.S. authorities qualified has “the progeny of Holy Land Foundation and Global Relief Foundation, which attempted to mask their support for terrorism behind the façade of charitable giving;”[31][32]
  • Islamic African Relief Agency, now Islamic American Relief Agency (IARA), which the U.S. Treasury qualified as a specially designated global terrorist organization for its support of Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and the Taliban in 2004.
 
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Yes, I've seen a few of his tweets. Most Islam apologists will tell you he's a shill for the "phobes." While the supposed phobes will tell you he's one Imam who sees the problems within Islamic doctrine.
 

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Yes, I've seen a few of his tweets. Most Islam apologists will tell you he's a shill for the "phobes." While the supposed phobes will tell you he's one Imam who sees the problems within Islamic doctrine.
I daresay they dont know what to make of him, as it doesnt fit their stupid narrative. Any apologists wanna give us your takd on imam tawhidi? Mossad disinfo agent?
 
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Either no-one there speaks Arabic or they are full of ****.
Wouldn't be that surprising, as the vast majority of Muslims worldwide cannot read or understand Arabic, despite having to learn to recite the Quran in Arabic.

He's clearly a troll. It honestly doesn't take much to see that.
No, he's a Shi'ite.
 

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Many of them come from Persian backgrounds, which probably has more to do with being 'good ones' than being Shia.
It's normally the Sunni's that tend towards the more extreme literal interpretations though (Salaffism, Wahabbism - and Islamist orginisations like Daesh and AQ). From my understanding, it's those hardline minorities within the Sunnis that are also the main drivers of the setarian conflict between the two (although the Shia's - supported by Iran - contribute to the conflict as well).

I dont want to point the finger, but that seems to be the case in the ME at least.
 
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It's normally the Sunni's that tend towards the more extreme literal interpretations though (Salaffism, Wahabbism). From my understanding, it's minorities within the Sunnis that are also the main drivers of the setarian conflict between the two (although the Shia's - supported by Iran - contribute to the conflict as well).

I dont want to point the finger, but that seems to be the case in the ME at least.
Shia terrorism has a different form to Sunni terrorism because Shi'ites can only engage in wars of jihad under the leadership of the Imam, who is currently hidden in the Major Occultation. Therefore, they will only engage in terrorist activities in nearby areas, and infiltrate to defend their region instead. This can be seen in the work of Hezbollah and the like.

I don't think that necessarily qualifies them as 'good ones', per se. Sufi Sunnis are just as qualified.
 
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