Why is Haw v Carl not played more? (this is the 9th year in a row they’ve met once and the 7th match in a row played during the day)

[Dan26]

These two clubs are historical rivals. There were few bigger matches played during the 80’s. Big rivals from the 70’s through to the early 90’s. Both big prominent clubs.

Yet there seems to be a reluctance to give this fixture any prominence. They’ve played only once a year for nearly a decade now, and hardly ever play at night. Their match-up in a couple of weeks will be their 7th meeting in a row played during the daytime. It’s one of the more weirdly fixtured games every year.

 

[Hawkk]

These two clubs are historical rivals. There were few bigger matches played during the 80’s. Big rivals from the 70’s through to the early 90’s. Both big prominent clubs.

Yet there seems to be a reluctance to give this fixture any prominence. They’ve played only once a year for nearly a decade now, and hardly ever play at night. Their match-up in a couple of weeks will be their 7th meeting in a row played during the daytime. It’s one of the more weirdly fixtured games every year.

100%. But to be fair, at least it’s now at the MCG and not Marvel in winter. So we’ll take the small wins

 

[hawkman]

It was barely a contest for 15 years

 

[Dan26]

It was barely a contest for 15 years

Neither has Richmond-Essendon been. Richmond-Carton wasn't for many years. Or many other combinations of the bigger clubs.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

both clubs only made finals once each during the the 2017-2023 seasons, pretty self explanatory.

Can you name one standout game between them in the last 10 years that deserved a prime-time slot?

 

[HairyO]

I'm sure every club would love to play the #1 attendance team in the business twice.

Unfortunately for Hawthorn the small clubs don't get the marquee fixtures.

If they wanted to be relevant they should have supported the merger with Melbourne in 1996.

Bed made, now go down to Launceston and sleep in it.

We get our big crowd in finals. We dont celebrate H & A attendances as things which matter.

 

[HairyO]

Cool story but you haven't even been to the finals in 6 years

Strange path to head down there. Were you born when the Blues last won a flag? How about when they last legitimately won a flag?

 

[ep12]

There are fixture quirks everywhere, Melbourne and Essendon haven't played each other twice since 2005.

 

[kreuze_missile]

Strange path to head down there. Were you born when the Blues last won a flag? How about when they last legitimately won a flag?

Happy to play the history game.

16 > 13

Good day.

 

[randyzany]

There are fixture quirks everywhere, Melbourne and Essendon haven't played each other twice since 2005.

The 'fixture' is not a 'quirk', far from it because quirk implies that the schedule is random which most definitely isn't. These are deliberate decisions by the AFL administration to appease the network right holders along with some other reasons. Financial reasons primarily but could be the biases of the clubs these individuals support seeping in when they come up with the schedule every year. For example for the life of me I don't know why Richmond has been scheduled to play Geelong at Kardinia every few years or so while Collingwood (similar supporter base numbers wise to Richmond) hasn't for decades.

 

[Whisper in the Wind]

Because you only play 5 teams twice (Six now with Gather Round)
2-3 of those have to be against interstate teams.
AFL prioritise Carlton vs Collingwood/Essendon/Richmond & Hawthorn vs Geelong/Essendon.

 

[Whisper in the Wind]

Happy to play the history game.

16 > 13

Good day.

Carlton won 5 of those before Hawthorn were in the league.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

both clubs only made finals once each during the the 2017-2023 seasons, pretty self explanatory.

Can you name one standout game between them in the last 10 years that deserved a prime-time slot?

The covid game in Perth was pretty good. Came from the clouds to storm over the top of them and win.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

The covid game in Perth was pretty good. Came from the clouds to storm over the top of them and win.

The Hodge/Murphy incident match was also a cracker one Friday night in 2014 I believe.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

I would say both teams would be looking forward to that game if we get to that match winning the next 2 and so does Carlton. 80 thousand plus will pack the G. Id argue we are the one team The Blues are not sure about how they measure up against right now seeing it will be the 1st meeting for the year.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Not trying to sound like a w***er but genuinely couldn't give 2 shites about the Hawks. Enjoy watching them play, don't have any sort of animosity towards them since they got rid of Clarkson and J.Lewis and really don't look to check when we're playing them when the fixtures released each year, they just aren't a club that takes up much thought.

As a 90s baby I wouldn't even know we had a rivalry back in the day if I didn't hear about it from the older generation.

 

[Black Diamond]

The compulsory double-ups within the fixture are the main compromise to the fairness and integrity of the comp.

We don’t need another.

 

[theiaofseed]

Not trying to sound like a w***er but genuinely couldn't give 2 shites about the Hawks. Enjoy watching them play, don't have any sort of animosity towards them since they got rid of Clarkson and J.Lewis and really don't look to check when we're playing them when the fixtures released each year, they just aren't a club that takes up much thought.

As a 90s baby I wouldn't even know we had a rivalry back in the day if I didn't hear about it from the older generation.

Kinda happens when Carlton didn't defeat Hawthorn for almost 2 decades.