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oh of course but that would presumably be for all meat for food.agree but will add to the last paragraph, killing humanely. That video of frying a dog alive was hideous.
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oh of course but that would presumably be for all meat for food.agree but will add to the last paragraph, killing humanely. That video of frying a dog alive was hideous.
You're right, I always name them after the fact.I think people just don't like the idea of killing things that have been named
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Permie friend has sheep and they have names the kids refer to the meat by name as they eat it.I think people just don't like the idea of killing things that have been named
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"Is this chops? Or roast?"Permie friend has sheep and they have names the kids refer to the meat by name as they eat it.
The kids would ask which was this one
bessie or thumper"Is this chops? Or roast?"
A pig or lamb could be a pet. Who are you to decide what animal is a pet and what isn't?Killing an animal (such as a pig or a lamb) for food is considered socially / culturally acceptable whereas killing a pet (“a domestic or tamed animal kept for companionship or pleasure.”) would be seen as inhumane.
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So you're saying the meat eaters make the laws?It's amusing to me that vegans get accused of being irrational or emotional, when it's always the meat eaters who bring up nothing but emotional arguments for questions such as the one in the OP. It is the height of hypocrisy that we can slaughter so-called food animals en masse, but I am not legally allowed to raise cats and dogs for slaughter and sell their meat.
Of course meat eaters make the laws. The industry has immense power politically, otherwise we wouldn't be witnessing the ridiculous process of feeding animals a huge amount of food and water to produce a much smaller amount of meat, while creating a massive amount of effluent that often isn't dealt with, as well as creating major methane emissions.So you're saying the meat eaters make the laws?
There's nothing wrong with killing animals for food because it's something we've always done since humans were invented and even before that. If humans stopped killing animals for food it wouldn't put any sized dent in the number of animals killed for food by other animals.
Not just named, but seen.I think people just don't like the idea of killing things that have been named
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So no vegans help make the laws?Of course meat eaters make the laws. The industry has immense power politically, otherwise we wouldn't be witnessing the ridiculous process of feeding animals a huge amount of food and water to produce a much smaller amount of meat, while creating a massive amount of effluent that often isn't dealt with, as well as creating major methane emissions.
The amount of animals raised and killed for human consumption is huge. It's estimated that 50 billion chickens are killed every year, 9 billion in the U.S. so 137 million every day. This figure doesn't include the culling of unproductive egg laying hens or the one day old male chicks that only get that one day.
If humans stopped killing animals for food, some wild species may escape extinction and others could eventually return to respectable numbers when their natural habitat is no longer used for growing the extraordinary quantity of food it takes to feed livestock. The oceans are being trawled to potential ruin, with bycatch, a term used for fish species that are unwanted buy die in the nets anyway, measuring five to every one fish that ends up at market.
The World Wildlife Fund Living Planet report in 2018 stated there'd been a 60% decline in the populations of mammals, birds, fish, reptiles and amphibians in just over 40 years. The top threats identified were human activities, including habitat loss and degradation, overfishing and overhunting. Forests, oceans and rivers remain in decline and the full impact of climate change is yet to be felt.
Humans didn't actually consume anywhere near as much meat as they do now. Hunting was dangerous and domestic animals helped produce storable food like cheese and eggs, as well as an emergency food supply if all else failed. Many animals scavenged for their own food then, rather than today's practice of growing crops purely to feed animals.
TO EAT, YOU MUST KILL ANIMALS QUICKLY AND WITH AS LITTLE SUFFERING AS POSSIBLE.
KILL ANIMALS OR ANYTHING WEAKER WITH NO DEFENCE FOR ANY OTHER REASON BUT SAFETY OR FOOD YOU SHOULD BE KILLED YOURSELF.
When is there any good reason to torture something?Killing an animal (pet, farm animal, sport shooting, etc) is wrong because you are simply killing for the fun of it, because we have socially evolved to dislike the killing/torturing something for no good reason. There is also ample proof that killing of animals for fun increases the chance that a person will eventually kill a human.
Never. While I have no problem eating meat, we should as much as possible remove any pain from the process.When is there any good reason to torture something?
Paper platesNever. While I have no problem eating meat, we should as much as possible remove any pain from the process.
They do not need bears...when you see the fear in a crooks eyes when a dog has been put on him you will understand.Believe me, if the cops could train bears and sick them on to people, it would have happened..