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Geelong_Sicko

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I like watching porn that degrades men. Women facesitting, peeing on men, and riding cowgirl are some of my favourites.

I'm a feminist.
Cowgirl is my favourite position, as it goes. The woman can gyrate, grind, and do all manner of things in that position that she cannot do in other positions like doggie. She is well and truly in control in that one.

As for degradation of females in pornography, yeah I've seen it. And I HATE it. Men spitting on women while the woman is being choked and gagged, women being choked with a hand at various points. I know this is a 'G' rated board and there is only so much I can discuss, but the footage I like is the footage where the woman actually gets to 'O' Town. Historically it's all been about the male moneyshot and who cares if the woman or women involved reach 'O' Town or not?

I despise that kind of film making. The industry needs a good shakeup, especially in this era of the internet, when instant porn is readily available and consumed by teenage (and even younger!) boys who grow up thinking THAT is the norm and the way to go.

EDIT: Clarified that the woman in porn is being choked and gagged
 
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Do men really enjoy watching videos that degrade women, or do they just watch it for the ick factor? Apparently they try to emulate it in their personal lives, so I suppose they like some of it.

Will we see an uprising of more feminist porn? There is a bit of that, but not nearly enough imo

Can porn be detoxed? Porn stars are people too, yet their well-being is often overlooked, which is typical of sex workers in general not being valued.

Is the subject perhaps too taboo to be tackled properly?

Mostly I find a lot of porn to be narcissistic, and therefore troubling, if boys are really learning from it.
Porn is stupid. But not because it degrades women whatever that means.

porn is stupid because the people who do porn are stupid and immature and get turned on by stupid and immature things.

you need intelligent people to make good porn but those intelligent people already have fulfilling or highly rewarding career paths doing something else. So porn remains stupid.
 

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Porn is stupid. But not because it degrades women whatever that means.

porn is stupid because the people who do porn are stupid and immature and get turned on by stupid and immature things.

you need intelligent people to make good porn but those intelligent people already have fulfilling or highly rewarding career paths doing something else. So porn remains stupid.
I've seen amatuer porn done by reasonably intelligent people (I say this because I know them) that has been posted onto the internet before. Pornography in and of itself can be rich and fulfilling. It can be degrading and disgusting. It can be even be mind-numbingly boring.

It all depends on what the distributors want and what the market is ready for. Amatuer content is actualy rising, I think. It makes me rise, anyway...
 

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Racist? because they incorporate coloured participants or because they don’t?
Racist tropes and memes.
E.g. the prevalence of bored white housewife with black guy who is better hung and a better lover than her cuckold white husband. Black gangbang on little white girl. Submissive Japanese housewives and schoolgirls who get raped and start loving it and falling in lust with their own rapists. Plenty of examples.
I'm not going to go into the psychological "why" of it, suffice to say the underlying social memes behind pornographic expression are an underlying truth one often sees in more mainstream media, but magnified.

Porn relies upon tropes, and it isn't representative of reality, but can become (is becoming) representative of it via dissemination, particularly upon impressionable minds.
 

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Racist tropes and memes.
E.g. the prevalence of bored white housewife with black guy who is better hung and a better lover than her cuckold white husband. Black gangbang on little white girl. Submissive Japanese housewives and schoolgirls who get raped and start loving it and falling in lust with their own rapists. Plenty of examples.
I'm not going to go into the psychological "why" of it, suffice to say the underlying social memes behind pornographic expression are an underlying truth one often sees in more mainstream media, but magnified.

Porn relies upon tropes, and it isn't representative of reality, but can become (is becoming) representative of it via dissemination, particularly upon impressionable minds.
Too right. Quite a lot of these 'genres' would not be missed if they disappeared. Although the cuckold one has a presence in swinger circles all around the world, and is an integral part of some partner-swapping scenarios where the other bloke is hung. Rape videos, even if they're 'consented non-consent' shouldn't be a thing in porn. In private circles go for your life, but in footage where younger minds might be learning from it it's a 'no' from me.

The BBC thing as far as I know has evolved in the U.S from illicit stories about slaves and their sizes 'back in the day'. Same with the gang rape of white women by black men. Something nasty lurks in the history of these 'genres'. Racial pairings (or more in the gang cases) are fine, but the simulated rapes and the potential villification of different ethnicities in the viewer's mind go too far.
 

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Too right. Quite a lot of these 'genres' would not be missed if they disappeared. Although the cuckold one has a presence in swinger circles all around the world, and is an integral part of some partner-swapping scenarios where the other bloke is hung. Rape videos, even if they're 'consented non-consent' shouldn't be a thing in porn. In private circles go for your life, but in footage where younger minds might be learning from it it's a 'no' from me.

The BBC thing as far as I know has evolved in the U.S from illicit stories about slaves and their sizes 'back in the day'. Same with the gang rape of white women by black men. Something nasty lurks in the history of these 'genres'. Racial pairings (or more in the gang cases) are fine, but the simulated rapes and the potential villification of different ethnicities in the viewer's mind go too far.
I'm not sure it's necessarily a case of vilification, unless you're talking about the cuckolded white guy trope. Certainly is in the rape vids, but where the swinger scene is concerned it has more to do with an artificial perception of virility and "manliness", springing from (rooted in earlier times as you noted) racial perceptions of non-white (or non-Asians) being more animalistic or primitive in nature. The flip side is the sexual confidence of black men in some circles being increased as a result of perceived attractiveness... what races score well in hook-up culture?

It does have a dark psychology.

Interesting that in ancient times, a big dick was seen as uncivilised and animal-like, and even representative of a kind of "evil" as personified by the Satyr myth. Imagine the Statue of David in modern times. He'd probably be brown, and hung like a horse. And the model would be screwing the sculptor's wife.
 

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I don't know people pay for porn, plenty out there to get my 5 mins worth

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Pr0n as an industry is pretty much dying I believe.
With 1,876,785,325 clips available for free the business model is done.
Add to this anyone with a bit of exhibitionist tendencies and a phone is now uploading their sexlife for all to enjoy.

As far as the OP goes- being a collosal pervert I of course enjoy it in pretty much all its forms however when it enters violent territory Im not a fan.
However I have knew a couple of chicks decades ago that loved ultra rough stuff and this was before the internet was a thing.

Different strokes for different folks, viva la difference and all that...
 

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Pr0n as an industry is pretty much dying I believe.
With 1,876,785,325 clips available for free the business model is done.
Add to this anyone with a bit of exhibitionist tendencies and a phone is now uploading their sexlife for all to enjoy.

As far as the OP goes- being a collosal pervert I of course enjoy it in pretty much all its forms however when it enters violent territory Im not a fan.
However I have knew a couple of chicks decades ago that loved ultra rough stuff and this was before the internet was a thing.

Different strokes for different folks, viva la difference and all that...
Some if the worst stuff ive ever seen is lez dom

i dont know if its made for lesbians or for males who scomo to lesbian stuff - but its fu#}ing horrifying. Nazi regalia wearing women whipping tied up women screaming as they bleed



Edit: ^^Theres a video about the practice, apparently it is 50/50 straight men and lesbian women
 

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Some if the worst stuff ive ever seen is lez dom

i dont know if its made for lesbians or for males who scomo to lesbian stuff - but its fu#}ing horrifying. Nazi regalia wearing women whipping tied up women screaming as they bleed



Edit: ^^Theres a video about the practice, apparently it is 50/50 straight men and lesbian women
Whips and blood does exactly nothing for me but I guarantee you the nastiest you will find wont hold a candle to Easter celebrations in SE Asia.

 

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Is every young woman these days expected to take it down their throat until they gag, produce excessive saliva (like just before you puke) and / or then take it in the arse?

It seems to me that this is becoming an expectation from boys / young men in real life which I don't like one bit.
 

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Is every young woman these days expected to take it down their throat until they gag, produce excessive saliva (like just before you puke) and / or then take it in the arse?

It seems to me that this is becoming an expectation from boys / young men in real life which I don't like one bit.
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Is every young woman these days expected to take it down their throat until they gag, produce excessive saliva (like just before you puke) and / or then take it in the arse?

It seems to me that this is becoming an expectation from boys / young men in real life which I don't like one bit.
Yeah, the choking/gagging porn isn't in the least attractive to me. I mean, you get the odd person who says they actually like gagging (on the receiving end) but it's a very VERY small fetish portion of our dirty demographic.
 

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Is every young woman these days expected to take it down their throat until they gag, produce excessive saliva (like just before you puke) and / or then take it in the arse?

It seems to me that this is becoming an expectation from boys / young men in real life which I don't like one bit.
Yeah, the choking/gagging porn isn't in the least attractive to me. I mean, you get the odd person who says they actually like gagging (on the receiving end) but it's a very VERY small fetish portion of our dirty demographic.
The idea seems very unpleasant to me but gag reflex control is an learnable skill.
Sword swallowers have been doing it for centuries.

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