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Wait, are you people telling me that 5 black guys with huge cocks gangbanging a 5 foot blonde girl isn't representative of real life?



As for degradation of females in pornography, yeah I've seen it. And I HATE it. Men spitting on women while the woman is being choked and gagged, women being choked with a hand at various points. I know this is a 'G' rated board and there is only so much I can discuss, but the footage I like is the footage where the woman actually gets to 'O' Town. Historically it's all been about the male moneyshot and who cares if the woman or women involved reach 'O' Town or not?
Is it still degrading to women if its another woman spitting and choking another woman?
 

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If I were a parent I'd like to think I'd sit down and watch some porn with my kids which would be excruciating for all involved but it would be a chance to explain that what they see here is not what their experience is likely to be. I'd argue that it would be almost impossible in this day and age to stop your kids seeing porn, best to tackle it head on to give them realistic expectations.
Your experience can be exactly like what you see in porn if you want it to be.

As you say, it's difficult to control content with your children when they have a plethora of electronic devices and ways to get around filters. I tried using parental control software with my kids only for one of them to work out my password and change the account password and email.
 

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Some if the worst stuff ive ever seen is lez dom

i dont know if its made for lesbians or for males who scomo to lesbian stuff - but its fu#}ing horrifying. Nazi regalia wearing women whipping tied up women screaming as they bleed



Edit: ^^Theres a video about the practice, apparently it is 50/50 straight men and lesbian women
Damn. I was hoping to see some of this lesbian nazi porn though the inclusion of ScoMo was a bit of a turn off.
 

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Some have raised good points about protecting impressionable young minds. I don't have an answer to that.

I personally love rape porn. The idea of being tied up and having several women go to town on me is appealing. Plenty of women have rape fantasies, enjoy being degraded, and love anal. The sexual power of women is at least the equal of men.

If you don't like it, don't do it. I personally don't care what people do so long as it's done between consenting adults.
 

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Some have raised good points about protecting impressionable young minds. I don't have an answer to that.

I personally love rape porn. The idea of being tied up and having several women go to town on me is appealing. Plenty of women have rape fantasies, enjoy being degraded, and love anal. The sexual power of women is at least the equal of men.

If you don't like it, don't do it. I personally don't care what people do so long as it's done between consenting adults.
I had a customer who with his wife was into pretty hardcore SM and I'd get some books in for him that were borderline porn and others I had to suggest certain sections of Soho might better serve his purposes.
 

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Is every young woman these days expected to take it down their throat until they gag, produce excessive saliva (like just before you puke) and / or then take it in the arse?

It seems to me that this is becoming an expectation from boys / young men in real life which I don't like one bit.
I had a pretty conservative girlfriend from ages 17-22. As a result I was pretty raw and vanilla.

I was shocked when I ventured into the real world. Girls are wild.
 

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Some have raised good points about protecting impressionable young minds. I don't have an answer to that.

I personally love rape porn. The idea of being tied up and having several women go to town on me is appealing. Plenty of women have rape fantasies, enjoy being degraded, and love anal. The sexual power of women is at least the equal of men.

If you don't like it, don't do it. I personally don't care what people do so long as it's done between consenting adults.
I think the issue there might be protecting young women, and to some extent men, in the porn industry who would have to play out those scenarios. Degradation of women seems to be a prevailing theme in porn regardless of fantasy or genre.
 

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Porn is meant to address our more...base...desires.

Base desires and intellectual desires are very different types of desires.

Also, in fairly anti-intellectual cultures like US/UK/AUS, intellect isn't exactly sexually arousing.
 

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I think the issue there might be protecting young women, and to some extent men, in the porn industry who would have to play out those scenarios. Degradation of women seems to be a prevailing theme in porn regardless of fantasy or genre.
What do you think they need protection from?

If it's part of the job description, you either do it or find another gig. I have no issue as long as the industry is well regulated and sex workers are kept safe.
 

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Porn is meant to address our more...base...desires.

Base desires and intellectual desires are very different types of desires.

Also, in fairly anti-intellectual cultures like US/UK/AUS, intellect isn't exactly sexually arousing.
Do you find women with a strong intellect sexually attractive?
 

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Porn is not negative. Threre seems to be a weird shift from progressives back to the conservative sex negative viewpoint.

Yeah porn can objectify people, it can rely on harmful tropes and be degrading; but it's a visceral reaction. Its not philosophy. It's a fantasy.

Kids don't shoot up buildings because the play grand theft auto, and dudebros don't pressure their unwilling girlfriends for anal because they saw it on pornhub. Social issues run much deeper than the media you consume. It's lazy and unhelpful to try and scapegoat it.

You like watching men get whipped and passed on? Awesome man there's plenty out there. Just don't pretend you're a better person than someone who likes to watch the same happen to women.
 

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Oh as for the OP;

Porn is stupid because people are stupid. Have you ever watched a sitcom?

Compounding that, most people who have any talent are driven to other industries by them having more money and a general ingrained social stigmatism that seeks to distance sex from the human experience.

If people willing and able to pay a premium for intellectual porn, which would take significant effort and resources to make (compared to a black pizza guy nailing a housemother in front of her nerdy husband before the kids come home; you see there's a ticking click element which is a clever device) then I'm sure there would be a ton of it too.
 

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Porn is meant to address our more...base...desires.

Base desires and intellectual desires are very different types of desires.

Also, in fairly anti-intellectual cultures like US/UK/AUS, intellect isn't exactly sexually arousing.
Lol
What about internet intellects?
Looks like you have to accept you'll never get another root.
Selling your hole doesn't count.
 

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Is it still degrading to women if its another woman spitting and choking another woman?
Good question! The more I think about it now the less I think it's actually degrading in any real sense - IF all the participants are adults and are involved by informed consent. People get off a variety of different ways, and there seem to be as many sexual fetishes out there as there are animal species. None of this is 'wrong'. If you get off by being the submissive or even by being degraded on film, more power to you. But it has to be you there in the spot by your own choice.

Without that context of 'informed consent' though such footage might convey to someone just starting out on their sexual journey that such behaviour is normal, that just spitting on your partner and/or choking them is cool without explicitly asking them, or arranging safe words for safe play in which any partner can back out if they choose to do so.
 

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Good question! The more I think about it now the less I think it's actually degrading in any real sense - IF all the participants are adults and are involved by informed consent. People get off a variety of different ways, and there seem to be as many sexual fetishes out there as there are animal species. None of this is 'wrong'. If you get off by being the submissive or even by being degraded on film, more power to you. But it has to be you there in the spot by your own choice.

Without that context of 'informed consent' though such footage might convey to someone just starting out on their sexual journey that such behaviour is normal, that just spitting on your partner and/or choking them is cool without explicitly asking them, or arranging safe words for safe play in which any partner can back out if they choose to do so.
Consent is the only thing that matters. We have enough barriers in the way of our liberty without allowing socially defined roles of husband and wife getting in the way.
 

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Consent is the only thing that matters. We have enough barriers in the way of our liberty without allowing socially defined roles of husband and wife getting in the way.
Exactly. Once upon a time in our own culture it was legally permissable for a husband to rape his wife. I'm not sure if the reverse was also possible (the wife could rape her husband) but there were no legal barriers that I know of. The marriage contract pretty much meant 'open season' in a sexual sense and I don't think consent-within-marriage had any legal basis at all.
 

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Good question! The more I think about it now the less I think it's actually degrading in any real sense - IF all the participants are adults and are involved by informed consent. People get off a variety of different ways, and there seem to be as many sexual fetishes out there as there are animal species. None of this is 'wrong'. If you get off by being the submissive or even by being degraded on film, more power to you. But it has to be you there in the spot by your own choice.

Without that context of 'informed consent' though such footage might convey to someone just starting out on their sexual journey that such behaviour is normal, that just spitting on your partner and/or choking them is cool without explicitly asking them, or arranging safe words for safe play in which any partner can back out if they choose to do so.
Women have impossibly high standards of personal hygiene, hence women's sport forcing huge upgrades of changing facilities because they're not prepared to use the hovels we used, I very much doubt they would jump into bad with a dude who changes his cheats every full moon or so.
 

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