Why the Smart hate?

[King Elvis]

That's because they are a bunch of inexperienced, out of there depth marketing graduates.

He doesn't respect them and they have not done a thing to earn it.

The crows marketing team have not set the world on fire over the past 36 months.

Our marketing is deplorable; but we could have all the talent in the world - yet it wouldn't matter if the guy in charge doesn't utilize them effectively.

Given how crap our efforts are, I suspect it's a combination of the direction set by the admin, lacking talent in the department - and the talent we do have being dismally led and managed.

It still shits me that Pods and Bicks seem to feature more prominently in our marketing than Tex and Talia.

 

[Sanders]

As I have said to you before you make a lot more sense when you don't try and resort to things like words

 

[dogs105]

Yes it is his connection to those on board that got him on the board which got him COO position to quietly shift him into CEO role when had to let loose Trigg
And as Macca 23 has said on few occasions there were many very highly qualified people applied for COO role but given to under qualified Smart knowing could not shake the boat in what occurred as he was a board member and because of playing profile they might get away with it.
But more important please someone tell me what qualifications did Smart have .
Footballer
- Few years living in French countryside
- Firewalker
- Failed Politician attempt
-- Car Salesman
-- Variety Charity head for profile.
So they are reasons i am totally against Smart having any major role in our club.

Doesn't he have a degree, an MBA, and management experience at the brewery and Toyota? I'm sure I remember something like that from news reports.

 

[Jack is Back]

No

Attack????

Merely stating discussion that was bandied around at the time he took the position at the Player's Association re his future salary prospects, no more than that. i.e. salary of a successful lawyer vs Player's Association Rep.

No you said Benny Gale was a struggling lawyer, not a successful lawyer. Classic diversion to ignore the evidence that Nigel was parachuted into the newly created, preparation for the CEO, role. Everyone has the right to an opinion but those with links to the AFC should have the balls (and ovaries) to declare their position, particularly if they work in the media.

Back to the topic. Nigel was CEO of the Variety Club SA before becoming the AFC COO. Variety is a fantastic charity but hardly a high profile management position in SA. I guess Variety found it hard to replace Nigel, and after searching both within Australia and overseas appointed who? (that would be the former Manager of Commercial Projects at the Adelaide Football Club ).

The key to a top CEO is their capacity to make good decisions. Poort Poower kicked our arse all summer off the field and our one "line in the sand" was the red jumper. A classic rule of management is to never start a fight that you can't win. Nigel was so eager to stick it up the Poower that he didn't cover his bases. Gain support from the non-Rucci media, ensure the SANFL were rock solid. It's all very well to be arrogant and stick it up the other mob but we ended up with egg on our face. Now this is not a hanging offence but it is not a good start.

The arrogance of a retiring Board member to anoint his replacement (who just happens to be his business partner) shows how out of touch our Board and management are and how they have taken their members and supporters for granted.

Large corporation often appoint from within but these are companies with thousands if not tens of thousands of employees and many, many senior execs It is ridiculous to assume that the best CEO for the AFC is one of a small number of senior management people (many of whom have minimal external experience).

P.S. So surprising that you should join the party Mattrox and even more surprising that you would once again take the party line.

 

[crowsup]

I don't believe that Smart is the right guy for the CEO job. Even though I do not know very much about him outside of his football career.
I did not like him as a Liberal candidate but I would not hold that against him because I don't like Liberal candidates very much at all. But that is another story.
I do believe that we should get someone that has had experience as CEO in bigger organisations and well respected. Just like John Elliott was when he was appointed CEO of Carlton.
For those of you that think that all the people in the -so called Boys' club- should be removed so we could get real experts running the club like a business,
I think you would have more fun if you went out and barracked for the company that you have money invested in.
No wonder the Paps can say we are not a club, we are just a corporate identity.

 

[Mattrox]

I don't know what planet you are on Jack because clearly I was highly critical of the way Trigg responded to the whole jumper thing.

But what is clear is that every time someone puts up a counter opinion to yours you resort to your m.o. of name calling and demeaning tone. You play the man then go on some rant about why you are the only one with all the answers.

PS Carlton and West Coast have been real powerhouses the last couple years because they played the kids haven't they? No..... oh shit but they were your poster children for your entire thread. ...
A lot of the time your opinions are wrong. So someone who disagrees with you may not be a "sniveling sycophant", they might just be correct.

 

[Bicks]

No you said Benny Gale was a struggling lawyer, not a successful lawyer. Classic diversion to ignore the evidence that Nigel was parachuted into the newly created, preparation for the CEO, role. .

Once again your comprehension is off the mark, there was no "diversion" in anything I wrote, merely stated it was not uncommon for past AFL club players to take up positions on "staff" for the club they formerly played, in fact it is quite common, Nigel Smart would in no way be unique in that regard.

My reference to Gale's position as a lawyer was the fact a successful lawyer has the ability to make far more money than a Player's Association Rep which was the discussion at the time of his appointment, but again in your usual style you use weasel words in an effort to belittle posters that don't hold the same opinion as yourself. I don't know if Gale is good or bad in his current position, the same as you and I don't know if Smart will be good or bad if he does get the job. Unlike you I don't have a preconceived view one way or the other as I am in no position to judge his suitability, I guess you must be??

Unlike you I don't choose to rubbish the club I support at every given opportunity, if that is upsetting for you or I get accused of "playing" the party line I really couldn't give a flying f**k!!!

 

[Jack is Back]

Carlton and West Coast have been real powerhouses the last couple years because they played the kids haven't they? No..... oh shit but they were your poster children for your entire thread. ...
A lot of the time your opinions are wrong. So someone who disagrees with you may not be a "sniveling sycophant", they might just be correct.

I will wait until the end of the season to complete my work on playing the KIDS. You have selectively quoted one out of 100 posts to suit your argument. My argument at the start of 2012 was that

1) We were playing fewer KIDS than most other teams

2) We did not have a squad to seriously challenge for a flag

3) There was little point in playing average players at the end of their careers instead of developing our younger players.

I was sooo wrong. Thank god we pumped games into Callinan, Johncock, Tambling, Porplyzia, Rutten and Reilly.

Now, get back to the topic.

 

[Kickin_Goals]

I say we get Gordan Ramsay or at least get him to sort it.

 

[MRB37]

Doesn't he have a degree, an MBA, and management experience at the brewery and Toyota? I'm sure I remember something like that from news reports.

"Since retiring from a decorated football career in 2004, Smart has earned a reputation as a noted businessman in South Australia and holds an MBA from the University of Adelaide’s Graduate School of Business and is a Bachelor of Arts from the Flinders University.

He has served as marketing manager of the Jobs Statewide Group, national business development manager of Disability Works Australia, network development manager SA/NT for the Toyota Motor Corporation and sales, sponsorship manager SA/NT for Lion Nathan Australia and most recently as CEO of Variety The Children’s Charity."

That's what I found about him when they first announced his hire as COO.

 

[Bicks]

"Since retiring from a decorated football career in 2004, Smart has earned a reputation as a noted businessman in South Australia and holds an MBA from the University of Adelaide’s Graduate School of Business and is a Bachelor of Arts from the Flinders University.

He has served as marketing manager of the Jobs Statewide Group, national business development manager of Disability Works Australia, network development manager SA/NT for the Toyota Motor Corporation and sales, sponsorship manager SA/NT for Lion Nathan Australia and most recently as CEO of Variety The Children’s Charity."

That's what I found about him when they first announced his hire as COO.

Now I don't know if he's the right man for the job, or even if he is under consideration but that is hardly the C.V. of a dullard as some on here would have us believe, but hey no doubt I'll be accused of just playing the party line again by the "usual" suspects.

 

[Donkey Magoo]

Now I don't know if he's the right man for the job, or even if he is under consideration but that is hardly the C.V. of a dullard as some on here would have us believe, but hey no doubt I'll be accused of just playing the party line again by the "usual" suspects.

6 jobs in 10 years including a failed political crack sends off alarm bells.

 

[Mattrox]

I will wait until the end of the season to complete my work on playing the KIDS. You have selectively quoted one out of 100 posts to suit your argument. My argument at the start of 2012 was that

1) We were playing fewer KIDS than most other teams

2) We did not have a squad to seriously challenge for a flag

3) There was little point in playing average players at the end of their careers instead of developing our younger players.

I was sooo wrong. Thank god we pumped games into Callinan, Johncock, Tambling, Porplyzia, Rutten and Reilly.

Now, get back to the topic.

One isolated incident? A fairly major thread...... Plus thr whole Gold Coast - Tippett thing you were wrong about and went Fukushima over.

Besides, it only takes one time being wrong for your obnoxious, holier-than-thou, black and white myopic rants that are smattered with name calling and bully-boy tactics to be invalidated.

 

[Slippery Pete]

No you said Benny Gale was a struggling lawyer, not a successful lawyer. Classic diversion to ignore the evidence that Nigel was parachuted into the newly created, preparation for the CEO, role. Everyone has the right to an opinion but those with links to the AFC should have the balls (and ovaries) to declare their position, particularly if they work in the media.

Back to the topic. Nigel was CEO of the Variety Club SA before becoming the AFC COO. Variety is a fantastic charity but hardly a high profile management position in SA. I guess Variety found it hard to replace Nigel, and after searching both within Australia and overseas appointed who? (that would be the former Manager of Commercial Projects at the Adelaide Football Club ).

The key to a top CEO is their capacity to make good decisions. Poort Poower kicked our arse all summer off the field and our one "line in the sand" was the red jumper. A classic rule of management is to never start a fight that you can't win. Nigel was so eager to stick it up the Poower that he didn't cover his bases. Gain support from the non-Rucci media, ensure the SANFL were rock solid. It's all very well to be arrogant and stick it up the other mob but we ended up with egg on our face. Now this is not a hanging offence but it is not a good start.

The arrogance of a retiring Board member to anoint his replacement (who just happens to be his business partner) shows how out of touch our Board and management are and how they have taken their members and supporters for granted.

Large corporation often appoint from within but these are companies with thousands if not tens of thousands of employees and many, many senior execs It is ridiculous to assume that the best CEO for the AFC is one of a small number of senior management people (many of whom have minimal external experience).

P.S. So surprising that you should join the party Mattrox and even more surprising that you would once again take the party line.

Solid. Real solid.

 

[Kenneth Tron]

"Since retiring from a decorated football career in 2004, Smart has earned a reputation as a noted businessman in South Australia and holds an MBA from the University of Adelaide’s Graduate School of Business and is a Bachelor of Arts from the Flinders University.

He has served as marketing manager of the Jobs Statewide Group, national business development manager of Disability Works Australia, network development manager SA/NT for the Toyota Motor Corporation and sales, sponsorship manager SA/NT for Lion Nathan Australia and most recently as CEO of Variety The Children’s Charity."

That's what I found about him when they first announced his hire as COO.

At lot of times ex-footballers get these "Business Development" type roles, with the employer rolling them out to meetings hoping to impress the client who is usually pretty happy to talk footy with an ex-star. I'm sure over the years many go from token employee to skilled operator, but nothing Smart has done up to now indicates that he has nailed one of these roles and now has the tools to be a competent COO let alone CEO.

 

[weekend at bernies]

I've never met him, but this trait stands out like dogs balls...and that was before his gaffe re the state jumper. Just like good players don't necessarily make good coaches, dickheads don't necessarily redeem themselves ever again....and once an arrogant prick always an arrogant prick.

guy at work, his wife has a bit to do with him....

 

[Roo Lives Again]

I don't think he's CEO material and that opinion goes back to many years ago when he did an interview for Talking Footy. Bruce obviously did him a favour putting him on. Very unimpressed with the interview just didn't come across as CEO material. It was a long time ago so maybe he has changed but as many point out where are his qualifications? We could so much better

 

[King Elvis]

At lot of times ex-footballers get these "Business Development" type roles, with the employer rolling them out to meetings hoping to impress the client who is usually pretty happy to talk footy with an ex-star. I'm sure over the years many go from token employee to skilled operator, but nothing Smart has done up to now indicates that he has nailed one of these roles and now has the tools to be a competent COO let alone CEO.

Bingo.

"Business Development Manager."

"Network relationship manager."

They can be valid roles... Or they can be jobs which people create to try and exploit someone's celebrity or contacts.

 

[Jack is Back]

One isolated incident? A fairly major thread...... Plus thr whole Gold Coast - Tippett thing you were wrong about and went Fukushima over.

Besides, it only takes one time being wrong for your obnoxious, holier-than-thou, black and white myopic rants that are smattered with name calling and bully-boy tactics to be invalidated.

If I can follow your argument, you object to my name calling immediately after calling me obnoxious, holier-than-thou, white myopic rants.

Do you see any hypocrisy Mattrox?

The names I have used include MOB and Snivelling Sycophants which I consider pretty mild compared to obnoxious, holier-than-thou, white myopic rants..... The use of the term snivelling sycophants was originally a joke between a couple of posters and I apologise if it has hurt your feelings. It's not like I've suggested that you are a bootlicker, brown nose or suckhole for the AFC.

Regarding the Tippett affair, I can't recall making any posts on that thread. Perhaps you have confused me with someone else . On the other hand, I am very comfortable with my comments regarding player selection and strangely enough many posters agree with me. Hey, if Truck isn't selected this week (as if) then even you might start agreeing that he is cooked.

 

[Crows Dynasty]

I don't think he's CEO material and that opinion goes back to many years ago when he did an interview for Talking Footy. Bruce obviously did him a favour putting him on. Very unimpressed with the interview just didn't come across as CEO material. It was a long time ago so maybe he has changed but as many point out where are his qualifications? We could so much better

I saw him on an ABC sports show once, maybe Andrew Denton's sports/comedy TV show "Live & Sweaty", or maybe "The Fat" with Tony Squires. He was not long out of football, but he came across then as someone who was very driven, but also very DRIVEL !!!! Couldn't really articulate himself very well, and certainly was not inciteful or particularly interesting. I would have felt a little embarrassed for him, but he just seemed to carry this cocky air and arrogance about him that made me not feel sorry for him. Epitomises what we do not need to win the supporters back. Not ready, but lets face it, will never be ready. Please listen BOARD.
I really don't think Nigel is the man for the job. In my opinion, Trigg is far superior, despite Tippetgate.
If someone from within, then my only choice would be Noble, who carries himself very well, but lacks necessary experience.

 

[beartoo]

Spot on to what ive heard.

Also believes he is better than you because of his stint in parliament. I guess he expects he should be treated with more respect due to this?

Never in parliament. Failed Liberal candidate for Norwood '06.

 

[Damp Squarie]

Never in parliament. Failed Liberal candidate for Norwood '06.

Liberal and Norwood says it all really Allen..add a smug shit grin and a bald head and you nearly have a Kochie...no thanks

 

[Bob Neil]

Now I don't know if he's the right man for the job, or even if he is under consideration but that is hardly the C.V. of a dullard as some on here would have us believe, but hey no doubt I'll be accused of just playing the party line again by the "usual" suspects.

I think you make a fair point Bicks although I would say - and it's possibly biased - that one should 'read between the lines' on a CV like this (ex local footy star) to try and assess (i) did he get those jobs on merit (Toyota - don't they have a connection to the Crows...) and (ii) what he actually did or achieved in each?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think you make a fair point Bicks although I would say - and it's possibly biased - that one should 'read between the lines' on a CV like this (ex local footy star) to try and assess (i) did he get those jobs on merit (Toyota - don't they have a connection to the Crows...) and (ii) what he actually did or achieved in each?

Bottom line is NotSo has very little in real business experience, including making informed business decisions. He doesn't have enough to be a COO (only got the job because of mates - would never be considered on his skills/experience) ... & nowhere friggin near the level of experience required to be a CEO & never will. I actually think he has very little in the way of operational skills & would be better suited to sitting on the board (where he was) or in some strategic capacity or just not at AFC. The CEO needs to be someone who with genuine business experience, with footy experience being a bonus - not the other way around!

 

[King Elvis]

Throw your hat into the ring Kane.