Why this country is stuffed

[Ratts of Tobruk]

There was a time here when the welfare net was there for the needy.

But when Howard shat his pants in 2001, the curtain went up on ever increasing middle class family welfare largesse. And payments to the unemployed fell behind.

Howard did it, and then it just got bigger under each successive govt and now today we have this.

Check out this whinging bitch - her household earns more than $351,000 and she is complaining she will no longer get a govt handout for childcare!

No wonder this country is stuffed



https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...g-45-a-day-to-go-to-work-20180701-p4zouo.html

Bigger in which ways? Labor brought in a bunch of asset testing that would've reduced the 'middle class' hand-outs ('upper class' is of course included in that, and it sounds like the author counts in that). Childcare subsidies have gone up, but beyond inflation what other things have been amped up? I thought tax cuts since Howard were more of the issue?

Childcare presumably is pretty good value for the Government as it means people go back to work and help the economy. Kids like it too.

Her argument would be better made in the context of how women might fall behind with career, super, pay, etc. But that's also why lots of people choose to work even though they only make $50 a day for it due to Childcare costs.

 

[bombersfan4000]

What's he going to teach, bankruptcy?

https://thecollegeinvestor.com/4726/ultimate-hypocrite-robert-kiyosaki-companys-bankruptcy/
http://www.scamsgalore.com/robert-kiyosaki.html

It’s a world wide best seller! That gives you the basic principles and understanding of money and the system!

Then again I guess it doesn’t talk about this utopian money tree that all you socialist looneys believe in

 

[Mofra]

It’s a world wide best seller! That gives you the basic principles and understanding of money and the system!

Then again I guess it doesn’t talk about this utopian money tree that all you socialist looneys believe in

Tabloid populism does not equate to education, just as Big Macs are not healthy because they sell millions.

Just because someone dumbs down a message enough so you can understand it, doesn't make it correct. He's went bankrupt so either he doesn't take his own advice, or his advice is poor.

PS - Not everything is a socialist conspiracy. You would make a wonderful 50s era McCarthyist.

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

I cleared up $20500 in debt (over 4 credit cards and a personal loan) over 2017/18. All accounts are now closed. Now I can see how easy it is to live on average pay if you use money responsibly.

I will also add that I come from.a family of 6 with a stay at home mother and a father who earned below $150,000. It has been a slog and have never been on Bali holidays with family etc. but no risk of going homeless and/or needing assistance from the Salvos etc.

A family of 6 is big, but you can't claim having "a father who earned below $150,000" as anything other than upper middle class. That's HUGE money for back then. All 6 kids could've easily gone to Private School on that money.

I think that's the point of Dry Rot's original post. Not the use of Childcare, not the inaccuracy I think he is portraying, but the fact so many people want to claim they're 'battlers' when they're actually doing pretty well.

I guess a similar one is the general complaints about 'cost of living' often associated with power bills. Power has gone up a lot, but it's still cheap considering how great it is. I bloody love electricity. Meanwhile, mobile phone, internet and TV/Netflix-type services have all probably added to most people's bills without them complaining too hard about it. Mobiles being expensive seemed to stop being a complaint in the first half of the 00s.

 

[Reynolds Number]

A family of 6 is big, but you can't claim having "a father who earned below $150,000" as anything other than upper middle class. That's HUGE money for back then. All 6 kids could've easily gone to Private School on that money.

I think that's the point of Dry Rot's original post. Not the use of Childcare, not the inaccuracy I think he is portraying, but the fact so many people want to claim they're 'battlers' when they're actually doing pretty well.

I guess a similar one is the general complaints about 'cost of living' often associated with power bills. Power has gone up a lot, but it's still cheap considering how great it is. I bloody love electricity. Meanwhile, mobile phone, internet and TV/Netflix-type services have all probably added to most people's bills without them complaining too hard about it. Mobiles being expensive seemed to stop being a complaint in the first half of the 00s.

He wasn't earning $150000 back then. The money he was earning would have been today's equivalent of being under $150000. I say that because he certainly wasn't living comfortably. I remember a time 20 years ago when the mother told me he was earning $17000. Which was like $60000 by today's standards.

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

He wasn't earning $150000 back then. The money he was earning would have been today's equivalent of being under $150000. I say that because he certainly wasn't living comfortably. I remember a time 20 years ago when the mother told me he was earning $17000. Which was like $60000 by today's standards.

So you've gone from "under $150,000" to "$17,000"? Maybe find out what actually happened before something inaccurate becomes family folklore.

 

[Reynolds Number]

Lol it's just a footy forum.

Just making the general point that it is possible to make ends meet on average salary.

 

[NSWCROW]

Why's this country stuffed ?

Because SOMEONE voted these muppets in......

 

[DaRick]

It’s a world wide best seller! That gives you the basic principles and understanding of money and the system!

Then again I guess it doesn’t talk about this utopian money tree that all you socialist looneys believe in

No, it's a motivational book dressed up as a financial advice book.

My brother's friend gave me this book and I disposed of it after realising that it said nothing concrete about creating wealth (no, "houses are liabilities" does not equate to advice RE creating wealth).

If you're not convinced that Kiyosaki's book is seriously terrible, spend an hour or two reading this: https://www.johntreed.com/blogs/joh...ert-t-kiyosakis-book-rich-dad-poor-dad-part-1

BTW, the author of that critique is very much an Amero-style libertarian - IOW, decidedly not socialist.

Mofra - I believe that Kiyosaki's company went bankrupt, rather than Kiyosaki himself (although in one edition of his Rich Dad, Poor Dad book - not the one I had - he supposedly claimed to have gone bankrupt in 1985 but there was apparently no evidence to support that claim).

 

[Lebbo73]

Why's this country stuffed ?

Because SOMEONE voted these muppets in......

Labor held it back for the 5 & a half years before that. 11 years of s**t hey Crow?

 

[NSWCROW]

Labor held it back for the 5 & a half years before that. 11 years of s**t hey Crow?

Knew i'd catch 1 of ya lol