Expansion Will 2020 be the Suns best ever year

Yes or no

  • Yes 8/9 or more wins

    Votes: 9 14.5%
  • No less than 7 wins

    Votes: 33 53.2%
  • Cocaine is a hell of a drug

    Votes: 20 32.3%

  • Total voters
    62

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Wayne Swan

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Only people crying are the young men who have just had their careers ruined by being drafted to the Suns. They'll be desperate to get out of there before the rot sets in.
Every recent high draftee has re-signed for extra years, this is a club on the move up. A decade of southern clubs picking off their talent cheap has ended, AFL did the right thing in their assistance package.
 

Wayne Swan

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Mmmmnup, HQ are hell bent on "growing" support for Aus footy in RL heartland - this is a long long long haul that may never come off.

What is certain to be on the nose of the Tas locals is a relocated club "representing". Go to any Tas thread, the thoughts of a relocated club has a sour taste.
Come on down North err, err, err Melbourne
 

4THAWN

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Wouldn't be expecting the suns to radically improve this year, but if they were to become largely competitive in 2020 that'd be a good result. 2021-2022 if the suns are able to keep progressing up the ladder, you may start to see them actually being a decent team.
 

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Jen2310

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Aug 21, 2018
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I think 2020 will be a better year. I think 5-6 wins is achievable. 2021 can be the rise up the ladder.
 

projectv

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May 27, 2017
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This is not the first time their list has been talked up and touted as being full of players who will play AFL for 10 years etc etc.

I would like to see them succeed, but I just don't think they will.
 

Roobs321

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You'd like to think so. Probably a 33% chance they get it together enough to deliver a mid-table season. Within their capacities. Another terrible year and post-Autumn collapse would continue to push that nail head home on their future. Nice draftees, but their existing squad should be able to make some inroads regardless.
 

Nugett

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Apr 2, 2017
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Only people crying are the young men who have just had their careers ruined by being drafted to the Suns. They'll be desperate to get out of there before the rot sets in.
no doubt that they will be well compensated for staying there. The AFL will make sure they are looked after in ambassadorial payments...
 

Nugett

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Every recent high draftee has re-signed for extra years, this is a club on the move up. A decade of southern clubs picking off their talent cheap has ended, AFL did the right thing in their assistance package.
to be fair. Where GWS traded out, their excess of first rounders. Initially the Suns delisted. I wouldn’t say that the players that have been traded out from either expansion team has been cheap. In certain cases I’d say that some of the trades has been overs for the southern clubs. The ones that have been cheap, have been because of cap pressure, injuries or players that they were going to delist anyway.

The AFL did the wrong thing in giving them these concessions. Where the AFL wants clubs to be accountable, the Suns have been allowed to make themselves a victim of their own stupidity and get rewarded for it. The decision lacks transparency and as a consequence the integrity of the entire draft is compromised because of it, as the other clubs become affected by it.
 

NoobPie

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Sep 21, 2016
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If it gives Tas their license, and they get to build a new club from scratch, they shouldn't have a problem with it..

Far more likely north will end up down there then the Gold Coast.

In fact I would say

PR north relocating / making way = reasonable chance

PR gold coast relocating / making way = next to no chance
 

NoobPie

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to be fair. Where GWS traded out, their excess of first rounders. Initially the Suns delisted. I wouldn’t say that the players that have been traded out from either expansion team has been cheap. In certain cases I’d say that some of the trades has been overs for the southern clubs. The ones that have been cheap, have been because of cap pressure, injuries or players that they were going to delist anyway.

The AFL did the wrong thing in giving them these concessions. Where the AFL wants clubs to be accountable, the Suns have been allowed to make themselves a victim of their own stupidity and get rewarded for it. The decision lacks transparency and as a consequence the integrity of the entire draft is compromised because of it, as the other clubs become affected by it.
Nonsense. The decision was made by the AFL Commission - it is very transparent. It is the whole reason those kind of decisions need to be made by the Commission (i.e not the administration)

The greater degree of the concessions is necessary because the Gold Coast are an establishing expansion club. Next season is still only their tenth season.
 

PumpyChowdown

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They will certainly start to rise up the ladder soon. Probably not next year simply due to the age and inexperience of their list.

Hopefully they've weeded out all of the flogs and FIGJAMS they drafted in that first generation of Suns (GAblett, May, Lynch etc) and now have a much better balanced list of players whose heads aren't so far up their own arses and who display actual leadership.

I know first hand that a lot of the younger Suns love it up here. Ben Ainsworth is shopping for a house and his whole family and girlfriend have moved up here. This new generation of Suns seem really quite tight and they are all kind of low key, which suits the culture up here. Hopefully they gel on the field and show what they are capable of.
 

Nugett

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Nonsense. The decision was made by the AFL Commission - it is very transparent. It is the whole reason those kind of decisions need to be made by the Commission (i.e not the administration)

The greater degree of the concessions is necessary because the Gold Coast are an establishing expansion club. Next season is still only their tenth season.
Fair enough points on the Commission side.

i still think that the concessions this year were over the top and overly generous.

When they first entered they were given a decent start up package, compared to Fremantle,Port Adelaide and Adelaide in their start up years in the AFL era. compare them to Fremantle who was also poor, when they first started, the original start up packages should have been enough to have sustained them. The appearance of these latest concessions is because it is not in an AFL heartland.
 

Rod Stroker

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Far more likely north will end up down there then the Gold Coast.

In fact I would say

PR north relocating / making way = reasonable chance

PR gold coast relocating / making way = next to no chance
Far more likely that you're clueless when it comes to North, so best not to comment.

Our new CEO will not entertain a move anywhere.
 

NoobPie

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Far more likely that you're clueless when it comes to North, so best not to comment.

Our new CEO will not entertain a move anywhere.
North may not ultimately get the choice. It could be relocate and stay in the AFL or...you know

Bottom line is it is far more likely North makes way or relocates than the Gold Coast.
 

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