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Crave said:
So, his 'redeeming' qualities helped him earn this thread?
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Well, Bombers fans are starting to expect more from Kepler, but with his effort in his last two AFL games made the tread starter anxious to see if the bomber fans think he has the right tools to be an AFL player.
 
S.C[BANKS] said:
Well, Bombers fans are starting to expect more from Kepler, but with his effort in his last two AFL games made the tread starter anxious to see if the bomber fans think he has the right tools to be an AFL player.
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The thread starter obviously has doubts too...obviously..particularly about Kep in a contested situation, as I reiterated ...n Im being asked to argue my point. Usual suspects no doubt
 
Crave said:
The thread starter obviously has doubts too...obviously..particularly about Kep in a contested situation, as I reiterated ...n Im being asked to argue my point. Usual suspects no doubt
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If you read what I said, don't use the thread starter to justify your own point.
Although the thread starter questioned his ability to keep his feet, not being out-muscled.

I made comment, you quoted it.
So I responded, which is normally what you do when someone quotes you. I disagreed that Kep doesn't show aggression and desperation, you could have provided examples or further enforced your point, but you pointed to thread starter (despite his argument being different). I fail to see how that makes for an opinion.

My opinion is that we shouldn't be judging Kepler as a finished product, because he isn't one. Not in a physical nor maturity sense.
 
Longy413 said:
If you read what I said, don't use the thread starter to justify your own point.
Although the thread starter questioned his ability to keep his feet, not being out-muscled.

I made comment, you quoted it.
So I responded, which is normally what you do when someone quotes you. I disagreed that Kep doesn't show aggression and desperation, you could have provided examples or further enforced your point, but you pointed to thread starter (despite his argument being different). I fail to see how that makes for an opinion.

My opinion is that we shouldn't be judging Kepler as a finished product, because he isn't one. Not in a physical nor maturity sense.
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Where do you think your point or disagreement regarding his aggression began from.? You replied to my MUCH earlier point in this area that he's lacking right now AND, who are you to tell me how to argue my point?

My opinion is he's not showing enough in the areas Ive mentioned...aggression, that killer instinct. If it were possible on this site, Id be able to record n have some sort of playback feature to further illustrate my point, but I can ONLY go by what Ive seen of him. Doesnt make you any more qualfied with your views than I am.
 

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I think you'll find you quoted me before I made any direct comment at anything you had written.

Appreciate the effort to explain yourself. That's all that I was requesting, rather than - So, his 'redeeming' qualities helped him earn this thread?

I believe that his effort, aggression and committment are his biggest assets. His application lets him down and I'm hoping that is more due to a lack of experience and maturity rather than a lack of ability and I'm willing to give him that time.
 
Longy413 said:
I think you'll find you quoted me before I made any direct comment at anything you had written.

Appreciate the effort to explain yourself. That's all that I was requesting, rather than - So, his 'redeeming' qualities helped him earn this thread?

I believe that his effort, aggression and committment are his biggest assets. His application lets him down and I'm hoping that is more due to a lack of experience and maturity rather than a lack of ability and I'm willing to give him that time.
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I think the player developers at the club have a lot to answer for in regard to his lack of improvement don't you think ?
 
I think it's a positive move that we are going to add a full time development coach next season. I think the people that decided that it was more benificial to keep costs down rather than having a full time development coach have a lot to answer for.

If Kepler Bradley was at Adelaide, he wouldn't be getting a game.
 
Longy413 said:
I think you'll find you quoted me before I made any direct comment at anything you had written.

Appreciate the effort to explain yourself. That's all that I was requesting, rather than - So, his 'redeeming' qualities helped him earn this thread?

I believe that his effort, aggression and committment are his biggest assets. His application lets him down and I'm hoping that is more due to a lack of experience and maturity rather than a lack of ability and I'm willing to give him that time.
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Thank you n I do repesct your opinion on the matter...guess thats why I take the time to debate this topic n many others like it.
You're DEFINTELY a worthy opponent...thank christ you're not of the white n black variety
 
it was only a few weeks ago that he was in our best against Melbourne and has hardly been at chb since. He needs time. Also we are trying to get time into lee and bradley. He will be fine.
 
kepler will be fine. everybody is struggling at the moment and when your team is constently getting beaten you move your players around and see where else they can play and if they can win you a game in other positions.

IMO kepler's best position is half back or chb where he is very good at reading the play, peeling of his opponent and taking marks being the the 3rd player in a one on one marking contest.

The only think this guy has not done is actually stop opposition key forwards influence on games. But who has at his age?

His determination and commitment is great. Needs time. He will make it.
 
Realistically though, for those who have passionately argued about Bradley...how long is too long for a guy of his potential to remain on our list.

We've all had our dissatisfaction in regards to Bolts, especially with the lengthy time he has spent at Essendon through good, bad n indifferent periods...so Id be interested in seeing what the general consensus is with the length of time Kep should be allowed.

For me, Id like to think that if he doesnt develop by the end of next season under Sheedy's tenure (whether Sheeds remains afterwards or not) we could still offer him for a draft pick or perhaps a Vic boy sitting in WA.
Keep in mind, that IF Sheeds moves on..a fresh face could have an effect on the kid...
 

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Fresh coach or not I believe ending his time at Essendon at the end of '07 would be too early. If he did happen to find a position next year that he could play every week and do a job, giving him one year at that would not be fair, he has skills, determination and courage i think he will make a very good hbf in the end
 
If the question is weather he will make it at afl level i think yes.
As a KP or 1st tier player, i'm not sure.
He was good early on in the first stage of his career but i think his weaknesses have been worked out and exploited by his opponents.
Still needs to work on his endurance (wherever he plays)
I also think his body-type has a lot to do with his slow development. He's almost ruckman height with a big frame, he came into the afl as a lanky, tall wingman. As he's beefed up over the last couple of pre-seasons, the extra weight has slowed him down. I expect him to become a lot stronger, quicker and more powerfull as his body fully develops into a man.
 
Dont see a lot of Bomber games but from what i've seen KB has been disapointing. Was he playing as a lose defender when he had a good season? Perhaps that made him look better than he actually is, a-la cloke.
 
I think he will make it. Actually depends on what you mean by make it. I don't think he will be a superstar, but he will play 200 odd games. He won't play his best football until he hits 24/25 odd so he will have a few more years of people questioning his ability.
 
Maquis de Saad said:
Dont see a lot of Bomber games but from what i've seen KB has been disapointing. Was he playing as a lose defender when he had a good season? Perhaps that made him look better than he actually is, a-la cloke.
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He wasnt played as a loose defender. He has been given a match up each week.
There is no arguing that he has been average this year but then so have a host of other 2nd and 3rd year talls.
 

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ant555 said:
He wasnt played as a loose defender. He has been given a match up each week.
There is no arguing that he has been average this year but then so have a host of other 2nd and 3rd year talls.
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and 4th,5ht,6th and 7th year talls and smalls.

we have been crap, he is learning a new postion - he will be crap for a while yet. No confidence.

Give him time to develop. Also, should look at him as a 2nd /3rd ruck option. He is 198cm yes? Thats a ruckman and he likes to folow the footy and can find it. He rucked as a kid so he knows something about the caper.
 
Pevers-Legend said:
we have been crap, he is learning a new postion - he will be crap for a while yet. No confidence.
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Yeah, it's hard for everyone losing every single week. Especially if you don't really have a position and you are getting thrown around all the time, Kep is one who definately needs a position to stick to IMO, at least for the next year or so

Give him time to develop. Also, should look at him as a 2nd /3rd ruck option. He is 198cm yes? Thats a ruckman and he likes to folow the footy and can find it. He rucked as a kid so he knows something about the caper.
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I reckon that might be the plan, I don't like Carts' chances of being retained, but again thats just my opinion
 
I have said this many a time, Kepler should be played on a wing and pushing back to help the defence.
 

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