Will Collingwood try to move Grundy on with that contract?

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Sphynx

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De Goey is the one they should be trading.

He'll be a FA next year and they're not going to want to pay him $4 million over five years to keep him. They should cash him out a year early, probably for future picks.

Nah, for once they probably shouldn't trade him

Collingwood will be eyeing a bottom 4 finish in 2022 and Band 1 compensation for De Goey.

That would be the smart play.

Just as Essendon did with Danniher.

No club will trade a top 5 pick for him, not even close. But the compensation will give them that.

If they finish last or second last, they could conceivably get a top 3 pick for him. He's young enough and will easily demand a Band 1 salary after the age loading comes into it. He probably only needs about $600k a year from a club to get them Band 1, given his age.


Between Daicos F/S and De Goey's compo, they are very likely going to get a VERY lucky start to their rebuild.
 

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Eddie turned Collingwood into an emotionally run club, everything with Ed was emotion-charged, there was a flag, could have been 2 with a bit more luck.

The early emotion was highly energetic and dynamic, it worked. The latter day emotion was pathos and comedia entwined. The love affair with Buckley and self was the downfall. Auto fellatio usually ends with sticky stuff on your face.

This phenomema is not new. Both the young Marx and Nietzsche showed indescribable brilliance as young men, only to fall into bombast and flatulance in the latter years.

And so it goes.
 

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Gut feel is he ends up at Geelong. His million dollar contract will easily be absorbed into the Simmons Homes/Geelong salary cap
 

Sweet Jesus

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Nah, for once they probably shouldn't trade him

Collingwood will be eyeing a bottom 4 finish in 2022 and Band 1 compensation for De Goey.

That would be the smart play.
Maybe. I'm not totally convinced that they bottom out that badly.
 

Chism

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De Goey is the one they should be trading.

He'll be a FA next year and they're not going to want to pay him $4 million over five years to keep him. They should cash him out a year early, probably for future picks.
This.
If they pay him what he wants to literally play 1 decent game a month back loaded front loaded or side loaded they are crazy. But in seeing the trouble they are in salary cap wise and what happened with Treloar who knows really.

If I was a Pies fan I would be livid if they give DeGoey what he is chasing.
 

Linda_Lovelace

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Won't be an issue. In the coming 2 to 3 years we are going to be down the bottom reaches of the AFL, will be going to the draft and with many players retiring have a tonne of cap space enabling us to just front load and clear a lot of it off the books. Not ideal but it will be easily managed.

There will be no high priced free agents or trades done for a while, no point.
 

Peter Sidorkiewicz

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Grundy is still a very good player. In terms of his contract, probably $200k per year is probably overs based on his current output and probably 2 years too long. 5 years would of been better than 7.

However if Grundy can improve his hitouts to advantage ratio (Collingwood finally hired a proper ruck coach this season) and the midfield can actually work with Grundy to improve the teams clearance rate, then Grundy can still prove is he is worth $1m per season. When it all clicks, he does have that value to the club.

As for De Goey, no way he is worth more than $600k per season. If he wants more than that in his next contract, Collingwood should trade him to highest bidder

I see De Goey as a poor mans Jake Stringer. Stringer at least had an All Australian season under his belt. I dont see that output ever coming from De Goey, way too inconsistent over a full season, acknowledging he can have 2-3 games per season whereby he can win the game for Collingwood off his own boot .
 

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Well, if by some miracle if this happens that North Melbourne gets a Priority Pick before the draft and decides to take Horne with the Priorty Pick then Daicos at 1 in the draft which will stuff Collingwood in getting him.
We know Collingwood wants Daicos so bad that it may cost them a player like Grundy in return for it to happen.
Goldstein has been a Champion player for North so North needs someone ASAP to Fill the Void when Goldstein Retires and Grundy would be the perfect fit.
But in the real world, none of the above will happen but would be interesting to see if things change with Grundy.
 

Linda_Lovelace

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Well, if by some miracle if this happens that North Melbourne gets a Priority Pick before the draft and decides to take Horne with the Priorty Pick then Daicos at 1 in the draft which will stuff Collingwood in getting him.
We know Collingwood wants Daicos so bad that it may cost them a player like Grundy in return for it to happen.
Goldstein has been a Champion player for North so North needs someone ASAP to Fill the Void when Goldstein Retires and Grundy would be the perfect fit.
But in the real world, none of the above will happen but would be interesting to see if things change with Grundy.

We get Daicos if we want him, there is no doubt about that as we have the points. Learn the rules, we can go into deficit.
 

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Well, if by some miracle if this happens that North Melbourne gets a Priority Pick before the draft and decides to take Horne with the Priorty Pick then Daicos at 1 in the draft which will stuff Collingwood in getting him.
We know Collingwood wants Daicos so bad that it may cost them a player like Grundy in return for it to happen.
Goldstein has been a Champion player for North so North needs someone ASAP to Fill the Void when Goldstein Retires and Grundy would be the perfect fit.
But in the real world, none of the above will happen but would be interesting to see if things change with Grundy.

LOL. Learn the rules.
 

ChubbMuff

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He doesn't care any more but he is still a better player than most of the spuds and kids we will have running around for us.

When you say he doesn't care anymore do you literally mean he is just going to take the money and not give a rat's? The media had it that he didn't cope with the bubble well last year but do you feel it's beyond that?
 

RUNVS

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Gee get some new material as this hasn't been posted 100000 times already.

I am just commenting that it was a terrible decision to trade their first rounder for 2021. If it stays pick 2 then Collingwood could have got Daicos and another top 5 player in one draft assuming North did not bid on Daicos with pick 1, which is a reasonable chance they would not.
 

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I can't see any team that would be willing to take on the contract without Collingwood making big concessions. If the Pies are going to go full rebuild I think the contract size won't matter as much with kids on minimum wage until they prove themselves. Who knows in 7 years time cap space may even go up. Got to get the deadwood off the list - Mayne, WHE, Cox, Greenwood on ridiculous money for their output. Beams contract should be finishing soon? JDG will have good trade currency if his legal stuff goes okay
 

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Gut feel is he ends up at Geelong. His million dollar contract will easily be absorbed into the Simmons Homes/Geelong salary cap

If he goes to Geelong, his mum will become Junior Vice President of Strategic Projects at Cotton On.
 

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They will probably win game's and end up finishing in 13th to15th place with daicos getting a bid at 1 or 2 so it doesn't matter.

Well it does as Daicos could in theory cost so many points that he not only eats up all of the 2021 points but a good portion of the 2022 points as well. Even if Collingwood ended up with pick 6 or something like that it would have helped a lot.
 

Sweet Jesus

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I am just commenting that it was a terrible decision to trade their first rounder for 2021. If it stays pick 2 then Collingwood could have got Daicos and another top 5 player in one draft assuming North did not bid on Daicos with pick 1, which is a reasonable chance they would not.
Surely North would bid just to keep Collingwood honest.
 

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You can't predict the future and sports list management is a risk backing your team to succeed. If they need points im sure they will find a way like trading out a player for more points like every club does with Academy kids etc.

If you need a few hundred points sure, but Collingwood look likely to need considerably more than that.
 

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They aren't in the premiership window so its not a big deal your hoping for. You come across as poster who always wants the worst to happen to the pies and hoping they don't get the points out of bitterness when they will.....

Just stating the issues Collingwood have. I don't dislike Collingwood anymore than a lot of clubs, but they did royally screw themselves last trade period in several ways. You don't need to dislike Collingwood to be able to see that.
 

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A seven year contract at 1 million a year. In hindsight it was way overs. His form has dropped off and Collingwood cap is still tight after off loading Phillips, Stevo and Treloar at the end of last year. Not only did they lose those players but are actually paying for some of them to play for the other clubs.
Meanwhile Grundy has just started his contract.

Will, or should, Collingwood try and move the contract and Grundy on?
Their Premiership window has closed a bit, and Grundy just isn't worth that coin.
Would you rather have Grundy on a million a year, or a good ruckman like say ROB for 350k a year?

Who would be interested in taking on Grundy and that contract?
We wil take him but you pay half, for seven frkn years....... how dumb is a 7 year contract?
 

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