Not sure if its been mentioned in this thread but has anyone talked about the lack of homeground advantage these 2 teams have? Splitting home games between probably the 2 most different grounds in the comp to play at. Being able to build a gamestyle for just one ground would have to be an advantage. When Richmond were at our best we were pretty much unbeatable at the G but awful at Marvel where chaos footy wasn't suited at all. Then both teams also host the MCG teams at the G but play teams like the Bulldogs at Marvel, that would be a further disadvantage. In a comp that has very small margains come the end of the year I feel these teams handicap themselves.