Will this season get finished or will it be null and void?

[Bojan KantKick]

moomba was discussing the broadcast revenue payments, its a huge issue. The broadcasters signed contracts for this season and paid hugely for it. Any attempt to delete the season will almost certainly result in the broadcasters chasing their money as the contractual agreement will be void and no football would have been broadcast at all with the season deleted.

Finish the season off based on the current standings assuming play cannot be resumed protects the league and clubs from a lawsuit from t the broadcasters.

Yeah, prem teams may have to give back circa 25% of their broadcast revenue. Force majeure comes into it too. Imo, finishing off the league closes one can of worms just to open up multiple ones.

 

[Zidane98]

Yeah, prem teams may have to give back circa 25% of their broadcast revenue. Force majeure comes into it too. Imo, finishing off the league closes one can of worms just to open up multiple ones.

Agreed

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Has restraint of trade ever stood up to scrutiny in a court of law.

Saracens tried it a few months ago and got laughed at.

 

[jd2010]

Has restraint of trade ever stood up to scrutiny in a court of law.

Saracens tried it a few months ago and got laughed at.

Other than the Bosman case?

 

[moomba]

There was that one case in Chile.

 

[moomba]

Interesting that before the Belgian League was cancelled, the Belgium government declared covid19 a force majeure event.

I'm not sure of the legalities but I wonder if other leagues are waiting for the same to happen before announcing decisions.

If I understand right that would stop a large number of legal issues that will arise no matter what decision is made.

 

[SM]

Sport doesn't transcend the law. It's why uncontracted players can be signed outside of transfer windows.

Uncontracted. Not contracted.

Sport does transcend the law when it comes to restraint of trade. Otherwise in the AFL you'd see blokes switching clubs every few weeks because there's no law to stop it.

 

[moomba]

 

[moomba]

Uncontracted. Not contracted.

Sport does transcend the law when it comes to restraint of trade. Otherwise in the AFL you'd see blokes switching clubs every few weeks because there's no law to stop it.

Contract law

 

[Zidane98]

Contract law

Different from country to country. Sport also gets exemptions.

Eg in the AFL you cannot choose which club you join - you go into a draft. Thats a restraint of trade for sure normally.

 

[Kompany]

These guys live in a different world from the rest of us.

I read UEFA is doing this because of strong pressure from the top 5 leagues. If smaller leagues end their seasons, it's getting harder to justify finishing the bigger leagues.

How funny is it that ECA chairman Agnelli, who has for years been pushing to isolate Europe's big clubs, is now asking for solidarity from all clubs and leagues.

UEFA has no legal ground to exclude Belgian clubs by the way.

 

[Zidane98]

These guys live in a different world from the rest of us.

I read UEFA is doing this because of strong pressure from the top 5 leagues. If smaller leagues end their seasons, it's getting harder to justify finishing the bigger leagues.

How funny is it that ECA chairman Agnelli, who has for years been pushing to isolate Europe's big clubs, is now asking for solidarity from all clubs and leagues.

UEFA has no legal ground to exclude Belgian clubs by the way.

Yep, they cant do s**t. UEFA's only concern is they have a result from the season so European comps can go ahead in 20/21.

Belgium have gone ahead and done that by finishing off the season with the current results. Good on them doing that although in reality its probably a little easier with less being at stake for them than the big leagues. PL will lose out on 25% of TV rights if they finish the season early or 100% of TV rights in a void scenario.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Yep, they cant do s**t. UEFA's only concern is they have a result from the season so European comps can go ahead in 20/21.

Belgium have gone ahead and done that by finishing off the season with the current results. Good on them doing that although in reality its probably a little easier with less being at stake for them than the big leagues. PL will lose out on 25% of TV rights if they finish the season early or 100% of TV rights in a void scenario.

Why would the PL lose 100% of TV rights in a void situation when one would presume they have already received most of the money?

 

[chef]

 

[Zidane98]

Why would the PL lose 100% of TV rights in a void situation when one would presume they have already received most of the money?

You arent paying TV rights for a season that does not exist. If you void the season it no longer exists at all.

 

[jd2010]

Why would the PL lose 100% of TV rights in a void situation when one would presume they have already received most of the money?

Yeah I doubt in the contract there's something saying refund us if the season can't be complete

 

[hawkman]

Yeah I doubt in the contract there's something saying refund us if the season can't be complete

Especially when the networks have already received the benefit of having those games. It is not subscribers can get refunds for games they have already watched

 

[Elmer_Judd]

If the season is declared null and void and no premier league winner decided, Liverpool at the very least deserve a 20 point lead (minimum) at the start of next season, plus millions of $$$ in compo..

Mind you, I still believe Liverpool will be awarded the title anyway, even if rest of the season is scrubbed..

 

[jd2010]

If the season is declared null and void and no premier league winner decided, Liverpool at the very least deserve a 20 point lead (minimum) at the start of next season, plus millions of $$$ in compo..

Mind you, I still believe Liverpool will be awarded the title anyway, even if rest of the season is scrubbed..

Im sure they'll be given some sort of recognition for leading the way in an incomplete season. Would be crazy not to

 

[jd2010]

Especially when the networks have already received the benefit of having those games. It is not subscribers can get refunds for games they have already watched

Yeah tv networks won't refund sponsors who've had ads play during games or viewers. Bizzare logic thinking tv rights already banked would be lost

 

[Zidane98]

Yeah tv networks won't refund sponsors who've had ads play during games or viewers. Bizzare logic thinking tv rights already banked would be lost

Its not bizarre logic at all. In the case that the season is voided all the games that have been played are deleted from the record and are no longer premier league matches. Quite simply the broadcaster has a contract to broadcast premier league matches. Void the season and that contract is also void.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Its not bizarre logic at all. In the case that the season is voided all the games that have been played are deleted from the record and are no longer premier league matches. Quite simply the broadcaster has a contract to broadcast premier league matches. Void the season and that contract is also void.

Absolutes again. Force majeure could just stop the PL from having to pay anything. The broadcasters have received the benefit of the circa 75% of the season played regardless of whether the remainder is continued or whether the season is avoided.

 

[Zidane98]

Absolutes again. Force majeure could just stop the PL from having to pay anything. The broadcasters have received the benefit of the circa 75% of the season played regardless of whether the remainder is continued or whether the season is avoided.

Youre talking in absolutes here. If you void the season like you want 0% of it has been completed. Its expunged from the record.

A 75% complete season is not a void season. You cant have it both ways.

Its not an absolute that the broadcasters have received the benefit either like you say. Many are answerable to companies that advertise with them and guess how they will react to paying for their name to be associated with a season that no longer exists.

 

[jd2010]

Its not bizarre logic at all. In the case that the season is voided all the games that have been played are deleted from the record and are no longer premier league matches. Quite simply the broadcaster has a contract to broadcast premier league matches. Void the season and that contract is also void.

The tv companies have already made their money from airing them. They won't have to refund that

 

[Zidane98]

Fox scrap $900,000, A-League poised to lose $57m

The FFA has made an urgent plea for unity within the game after the players' union confirmed a second A-League club had stood its players down.

www.ftbl.com.au

Devastating.