News Willie Rioli - 2 yr ban. Returns 20/8/21 (166 days)

How long for Willie and when will he know?


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Keys

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Godfather32 was sad at your post in the thread News Willie Rioli - Provisionally Suspended (Days since suspension without decision : 530).
 

shooshka

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Didn't need Ings input there - the SIA statement said exactly this.

Regardless of whether he can break the silence, it doesn't mean he should. Learn from essendon's fu**up - get the outcome sorted then run your mouth off about the process.
It's a cop out from Ings.

Saying it is the responsibility of the defence, rather than the prosecution or judiciary, to progress a case is ridiculous.

Willie's responsibility was to request a hearing (which from reports happened in August last year). Then it is up to the prosecutors to share the evidence (no idea when this occurred, obviously it did) and arrange the hearing (which was December).

It is then the judiciary's responsibility to make a decision in a timely manner.


Just because Willie is the only one who can comment, it doesn't absolve the other parties of their responsibility to progress this in a timely manner (something they have utterly failed to do). Additionally, as you have said above - there will be no benefit and likely a detriment to publicly commenting prior to any verdict.
 

Obeanie1

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Hamid Ezzine

In 2009 he was found guilty of refusal to submit to doping control and tampering with a doping control. For this he received a two-year suspension from the sport, lasting from March 2009 to March 2011.

Róbert Fazekas
After the final, Fazekas provided only 25 millilitres of urine (50 ml short of the minimum amount required), stating he was "in an unstable psychological state and feeling unwell". Observers from the International Olympic Committee warned that this would constitute a doping infraction and advised that he could go with them to the clinic at the Olympic Village, where he could provide a further sample. Fazekas refused the offer. 2 Years suspension

Yuliya Fomenko (runner)

On 20 October 2008, it was announced that Fomenko and six other Russian athletes would receive two-year doping bans for manipulating drug samples.[3]

Eva-Maria Gradwohl
In 2010 Gradwohl retired from her sporting career, after refusing to take a doping test; according to NADA director Andreas Schwab, refusing to undergo a doping test was considered a positive test, and would be an obvious breach of the rules imposed in every sporting competition. 2 years

Zoltán Kővágó
He himself was serving a competition ban for "evading doping testing". In August 2011 an Austrian doping controller searched for him in his former address. Kővágó already moved from there – he also officially reported his new address earlier – thus according to the controller's own admission he made an appointment with him on the phone and he stated Kővágó had not wanted to meet with him and had refused to give a sample. 2 years

So anyone see a pattern here?
 

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SloppyJoe

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Can't see how, or why, Willie would get any kind of sentence reduction by reason of the length of time taken for an outcome. He stuffed up and will be given a sentence longer than time served. Any angst or mental injury he may have by reason of this taking an unreasonably long time simply won't come into the tribunal's reckoning.
 

Farang83150

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Can't see how, or why, Willie would get any kind of sentence reduction by reason of the length of time taken for an outcome. He stuffed up and will be given a sentence longer than time served. Any angst or mental injury he may have by reason of this taking an unreasonably long time simply won't come into the tribunal's reckoning.
Your guessing the same as everyone else is, you have no idea what will simply or not come into the tribunals reckoning.
 

Obeanie1

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Your guessing the same as everyone else is, you have no idea what will simply or not come into the tribunals reckoning.
Looking at what has actually been handed down 4 years is the mandatory sentence. A rare few have copped less.

This is what is likely holding things up imo. Its easy for WADA to simply apply a manditory sentence for evading or tampering. The problem is manditory sentencing always results in unfair outcomes at some point. The one penalty fits all circumstances eventually will delivery unfair outcomes.

Then add the current climate on racism and unfair outcomes. All of a sudden ASADA / WADA are demanding the maximum manditory penalty and the AFL are thinking 'thats not going to look good at all'........because under the circumstances its over kill.

So they delay...........hopefully negotiate a reasonable penalty.
 

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Didn't need Ings input there - the SIA statement said exactly this.

Regardless of whether he can break the silence, it doesn't mean he should. Learn from essendon's fu**up - get the outcome sorted then run your mouth off about the process.
The Eagles have plenty of spinners to get one past the AFL. Play the mental stress on Willie, its real & bloody hard to justify.
 

Dark Sharks

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You want highlight vids to make you sad?

Here.


26 touches, 1 goal, 3 marks, 10 tackles and 3 brownlow votes.


The weeks leading up to that game he had

21D, 8M, 1G, 6T <---- 9th AFL game
21D, 6M, 6T <----8th AFL game
22D, 3M, 3T <----- 7th AFL game
23D, 5M, 2G, 2T <----- 6th AFL game.



Swift was a very creative/dynamic player. None of our mids have come close to producing these overall numbers in their first season, let alone first 10 games.

Gaff was an absolute ball magnet once Woosha stopped playing him as the sub, he'd tick the box, but never put up more than 3 tackles in a game.

Took Sheed until his his 2nd season, 12th game to crack 20 touches.




Brayden's career disposal high is 15 touches, and that was back in 2018 in his first game.
O'Neils is 16 touches, he did that in his 2nd game.
 

Obeanie1

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The Eagles have plenty of spinners to get one past the AFL. Play the mental stress on Willie, its real & bloody hard to justify.
No it isnt. If ASADA are demanding a manditory maximum and the AFL are pushing for a lessor penalty taking time is quite justifiable.

We just dont know what is going on.
 

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The system needs a good shake up if the court (afl) have to negotiate with the prosecution ( asada) on an acceptable penalty.
 

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