Rumour Willie Rioli allegedly caught tampering with a drug testing sample

John Brooks

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I don't know if i am 100% right but i heard that they are cutting ties with WADA they are not happy with there process talking so long for the results.Does anybody know if this is right.AFL to do there own investigation
 

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blackcat

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I don't know if i am 100% right but i heard that they are cutting ties with WADA they are not happy with there process talking so long for the results.Does anybody know if this is right.AFL to do there own investigation
Be pretty happy about that myself, the NFL MLB and NBA plus hockey do fine without WADA.

WADA is like NATO, just an ever expanding power grab that has screwed over Russians yet allows the US the Brits and Australia to dope with impunity. * exceptions that prove my maxim

Sharapova f'ed over, Serena pregnant and free
 

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I don't know if i am 100% right but i heard that they are cutting ties with WADA they are not happy with there process talking so long for the results.Does anybody know if this is right.AFL to do there own investigation
Do you think they will forsake the free taxpayer money?
 

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Tim Evans Beard

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I don't know if i am 100% right but i heard that they are cutting ties with WADA they are not happy with there process talking so long for the results.Does anybody know if this is right.AFL to do there own investigation
Do you think they will forsake the free taxpayer money?
This is the kicker - Australian government funding is tied to being subject to WADA compliance. This includes stadium funding as well as grass roots.

The AFL can certainly do its own investigation. ASADA may provide a recommendation on punishments if applicable and the AFL may consider this recommendation and go a different way. If this occurs, ASADA may appeal the AFL findings in the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) if it feels the AFL sanctions are disproportionate to the offense.
 

SunshineTiger

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This is the kicker - Australian government funding is tied to being subject to WADA compliance. This includes stadium funding as well as grass roots.

The AFL can certainly do its own investigation. ASADA may provide a recommendation on punishments if applicable and the AFL may consider this recommendation and go a different way. If this occurs, ASADA may appeal the AFL findings in the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) if it feels the AFL sanctions are disproportionate to the offense.
Cue Essendon
 

nick1408

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Be pretty happy about that myself, the NFL MLB and NBA plus hockey do fine without WADA.

WADA is like NATO, just an ever expanding power grab that has screwed over Russians yet allows the US the Brits and Australia to dope with impunity. * exceptions that prove my maxim

Sharapova f'ed over, Serena pregnant and free
How does NATO let Australia get away with anything when we aren't part of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation?
 

blackcat

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That is for Gillon to bring in Wylie and brinksmanship Morrison. What do they have to hurt Canberra?

I see AFLW as being a major weapon to use with the money men in Canberra
SunshineTiger

The most threatening posture I see it from Toyota and NAB. If WADA wish to keep.afl they need to campaign to NAB and Toyota. Hey WADA and Richard Ings, spend a chunk of the marketing and communication budget on Burson Marsteller targeting Toyota and NAb and the succour moms[sic]
 

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If, as Jordan Lewis just explained it on #afl360 tonight, the sample is done, facing the ASADA employee, pants down to the knees, shirt up to the chest, essentially exposing the entire middle portion of your body, facing front on, and they watch you pee into that jar, then take the jar, look at it for colour and temperature, then seal it and box it for testing, how the hell has his sample come back as anything other than urine?! What the hell is it? Apple juice?! Did the ASADA employee mix up his juice box with Willie's pee sample?! Montagna on AFL Selection Night (Fox Footy) has also explained the same strict screening process, saying that it is virtually impossible to not give a genuine sample, let alone, something other than urine. It makes ZERO sense! The process that has taken place has GOT to be looked at, because if this past player description of how the screening process is done, is correct, ASADA must ask their own employee HOW it is that a player can face them, front on, essentially naked, and pee into a jar, while that ASADA employee watches, and that sample comes back as "non-urine."
 

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If, as Jordan Lewis just explained it on #afl360 tonight, the sample is done, facing the ASADA employee, pants down to the knees, shirt up to the chest, essentially exposing the entire middle portion of your body, facing front on, and they watch you pee into that jar, then take the jar, look at it for colour and temperature, then seal it and box it for testing, how the hell has his sample come back as anything other than urine?! What the hell is it? Apple juice?! Did the ASADA employee mix up his juice box with Willie's pee sample?! Montagna on AFL Selection Night (Fox Footy) has also explained the same strict screening process, saying that it is virtually impossible to not give a genuine sample, let alone, something other than urine. It makes ZERO sense! The process that has taken place has GOT to be looked at, because if this past player description of how the screening process is done, is correct, ASADA must ask their own employee HOW it is that a player can face them, front on, essentially naked, and pee into a jar, while that ASADA employee watches, and that sample comes back as "non-urine."
THIS!!! absolutely spot on!

especially if willie or whom ever tainted the sample fcuked up and put the wrong liquid in there and thats how we know about it now.
 

StCicatriz

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Why couldn’t they have witnessed him forging it, stop him in his tracks and send it to be tested to prove he did what he did?
if the protocol is correct it would mean willie has taken a bottle of a popular drink and literally poured it into the container with the bloke watching only for him to go you can't do that willie, seal it and then get him that way. going "gotcha". no player would be that ******* dumb and the whole thing wouldn't make sense. they'd just ask him to do the test properly and stop being a dickhead.

doesn't add up.

unless you are suggesting he's had others help distract the tester then got caught after the sample was handed over. or he tampered with it after that.

the way the AFL worded it is that the sample was sent of for testing and came back as not urine!
 

maka

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if the protocol is correct it would mean willie has taken a bottle of a popular drink and literally poured it into the container with the bloke watching only for him to go you can't do that willie, seal it and then get him that way. going "gotcha". no player would be that ******* dumb and the whole thing wouldn't make sense. they'd just ask him to do the test properly and stop being a dickhead.

doesn't add up.

unless you are suggesting he's had others help distract the tester then got caught after the sample was handed over. or he tampered with it after that.

the way the AFL worded it is that the sample was sent of for testing and came back as not urine!
Leaked it out his mouth? Who knows, asada had plenty of time to pursue this
 

Ceehook

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Got an example of recent case of fake dong in a legitime testing pool? (I.E. USADA, ASADA) You'd have to be rocking a fake dong all day for an unnotified visit, and it would have to have no visible stop lines.

Full protocol from the start of the visit seen below
the ASADA person is supposed to see the stream
so how does he substitute ?
 

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