News Willie Rioli - Provisionally Suspended

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Wasn't is reported initially that Shuey was involved/aware/in the vicinity at the time?
There are just so many unknowns. Any one of the chaperone not seeing urine leave the body, another player in the room amd/or not requesting another sample when the specific gravity didn't match are theoretically against the collection policy.

That's a long way from him getting a reduced sentence, but still quite a few questions that ASADA need to answer.

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Star Eagle Willie Rioli ‘frustrated’ as he waits to find out penalty for alleged urine substitution, positive cannabis test
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Willie Rioli still has no idea how long he’ll be banned for over his alleged urine substitution and positive cannabis test despite repeated inquiries from West Coast to the AFL and the players association.
The premiership forward was handed a provisional ban by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority in September last year for allegedly substituting his urine during a mid-week drug test on August 20.
“He’s in a reasonable space but very frustrated I think,” West Coast football manager Craig Vozzo said yesterday.

“He just wants this to end one way or another so he knows ‘this is the situation’ and can say ‘this is what I’m facing and I want to move on with my life’.”
Vozzo said the club had been asking regularly but still didn’t have any form of timeline which they expected to have had already.
“We don’t get a lot of notice,” Vozzo told ABC Grandstand.
“David Grace QC is handling it for us and he is constantly in contact with the leading authorities in regards to timeframe and requirements legally, but we still haven’t got a timeline to finalisation unfortunately.”
Rioli, 24, has played 38 games for the Eagles.
He has has been back home on the Tiwi Islands since February with his partner Lucy Campbell-Brogan.

Star forward Willie Rioli, who is facing a four-year ban from the game, has returned to training at the Eagles.
The couple welcomed their second child, Willie Rioli Jr III, in late March.
Coach Adam Simpson and star ruckman Nic Naitanui have been in contact with Rioli in recent weeks. Vozzo said it was clear Rioli just wanted to know his fate, one way or another.
“He goes up and down,” Vozzo said.
“He welcomed the arrival of his second son so that’s been a fantastic thing for him. He’s on the islands and Simmo spoke to him probably a week ago now. We’re trying to keep him engaged to the extent that we can.”
He faces a suspension of up to four years if found guilty over the urine-substitution allegation, with his positive test for cannabis on September 5 viewed as a less serious offence.
Vozzo urged the AFL to consider finding a more efficient way of keeping the sport clean from drugs, without the World Anti-Doping Agency’s “overlay”.
Fellow footballer Sam Murray was in a similar situation to Rioli in terms of delays.
The former Collingwood speedster had already served 12 months of his provisional suspension before his case and appeal were finished, meaning he had only a further six months left.
“I think it’s the WADA bit that really causes a portion of the delay,” Vozzo said.
“I think we’re really capable of setting up a system that achieves the same outcome, in terms of monitoring drugs and making sure they don’t creep into the sport and keeping it clean.”
 

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Its a Employment rights issue. If I sent you home without pay pending a investigation into your email account, how would you be 8 months later when Ive done nothing and you are still at home doing nothing? Im pretty sure you could sue the shit out of me and id lose the case for negligence
Do you know for a fact that Willie isn't getting paid?
I don't know for sure but would assume that he is.

And you don't know ASADA has done nothing.
 

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Don't worry gaiz, David Grace QC is on the case.


Fresh off such big wins as :

- McGovern suspended for pushing Guelfi into a chair.
- Naitanui's tackle on Amon, after failing to calculate the weight.
- Jetta's sling tackle.
-The Gaff 8 week suspension
- Marsdens 4 match ban for biting Suban.
I often hear that losing with grace is a positive attribute in sport
 

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Don't worry gaiz, David Grace QC is on the case.


Fresh off such big wins as :

- McGovern suspended for pushing Guelfi into a chair.
- Naitanui's tackle on Amon, after failing to calculate the weight.
- Jetta's sling tackle.
-The Gaff 8 week suspension
- Marsdens 4 match ban for biting Suban.
I can sense the sarcasm in picking out these cases, but I don't think we were getting any of those charges dropped. Gaff broke Brayshaw's jaw. Despite the context, Masten bit Suban. The MRP made sure Nic would have no defense and even came out publically; the case was pretty much decided in the media before the tribunal even convened. Jetta's tackle supposedly led to Smith leaving the ground in the 4th quarter. Those one-match charges for dangerous tackles and recklessness are almost impossible to overturn if the tackled player incurred any injuries.

It's a scuffed system that largely depends on result and not intent.
 

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Both Naitanui and McGoverns cases could've been won IMO.

Big VIC club would've got the campaigners off. From memory I think our defence tactic from both was a bit bizarre.
Re: Nic's tackle, I must admit I can't recall Grace's exact defense, but Simpson was literally deconstructing Christian's BS reasoning in TV interviews. The sentiment in the football community was pretty clear that it should have been left at a free-kick, only that unfortunately the mild concussion mandated a penalty due to this broken system of interpretation.

I believe there was next to 0% chance of getting out of that charge, with the AFL being forced to back their newly instated one-man MRP, Michael Christian. What better team to take the fallout for the MRP's ineptitude than an interstate one that's on a winning streak?
 
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Re: Nic's tackle, I must admit I can't recall Grace's exact defense, but Simpson was literally deconstructing Christian's BS reasoning in TV interviews. The sentiment in the football community was pretty clear that it should have been left at a free-kick, only that unfortunately the mild concussion mandated a penalty due to this broken system of interpretation.

I believe there was next to 0% chance of getting out of that charge, with the AFL being forced to back their newly instated one-man MRP, Michael Christian. What better team to take the fallout for the MRP's ineptitude than an interstate one that's on a winning streak?
The whole premise for the case just seemed wrong. Christian kept blathering on about 'arms pinned' and they clearly weren't. Found this gif that Beutbrute took off of his TV and uploaded to the MRP thread.

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The whole premise for the case just seemed wrong. Christian kept blathering on about 'arms pinned' and they clearly weren't. Found this gif that Beutbrute took off of his TV and uploaded to the MRP thread.

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No arms pinned there, mateys. I think it was just the massive weight of Nik Nat rolling over that gave him mild concussion.
 

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Its a Employment rights issue. If I sent you home without pay pending a investigation into your email account, how would you be 8 months later when Ive done nothing and you are still at home doing nothing? Im pretty sure you could sue the shit out of me and id lose the case for negligence
If I sued the shit out of you, that is a legal matter. That isnt what is happenng. He is getting paid, I think. He cannot play. The terms of contracts would stipulate the consequences of failing a drug test, so he isnt suing, not succesfully anyway.

And ps, the legal system is SLOOOOW, as well.
 

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