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Rod Stroker said:
The wait is over! Win8 beta available to the public Feb 29
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/windows-8-consumer-preview-arrivingfeb-29_666179.html

In fact, the pre-beta developer releases are already available for public download. Tempted to give it a spin
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516
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I've heard very good things about W8. I think it was Gartner that said that it will become 2nd behind Android within 3 years!!

That's a big call given how low they are with mobile units at the mo but given the way that sector is moving...I wouldn't be surprised....
 

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Turns out that the pre-release developer versions have been available since last September :o
From what I've seen it doesn't look a helluva lot different from Win7, except for the new Metro UI, although the Apps Store function apparently isn't active yet and might not be until the RTM release later in the year.

Downloading the iso files now. I'll install it in Vbox tomorrow to check it out, pending how that goes I might then just do a stand alone install on one of my machines.
 
I’ve been running it on my mane system since it came out.

The start menu is very different but the rest of it is very similar.

The start menu takes a bit of getting used to, but you do. It’s not feature complete though so you miss a lot of the benefits of actually having the new start menu.

If you wait a couple of weeks for the new version it will be much, much more polished.
 
We threw it on a VM at work a few months back, for PC use I can't see it being anything groundbreaking. If/when I get it for home I'll be killing the Metro UI as soon as I can.

On tablets it should be interesting, although I reckon it will be more for corporate users than your average person. If W8 takes off Apple will cop a bigger hit than Android
 
I use W7 at work and a Mac at home (lion) and cannot wait for W8 to be released.

Few reasons:

  • Metro UI looks amazing
  • Metro Apps can be created with Javascript (I'm a front-end web dev)
  • IE10 will be released with the OS

I think the Apple will lose some ground with tablets after W8 gains traction. Also the lumia looks like a really good phone, I think Nokia will make it in the smartphone market on the back of these bad boys
 
BLue_Bloys said:
I use W7 at work and a Mac at home (lion) and cannot wait for W8 to be released.

Few reasons:

  • Metro UI looks amazing
  • Metro Apps can be created with Javascript (I'm a front-end web dev)
  • IE10 will be released with the OS

I think the Apple will lose some ground with tablets after W8 gains traction. Also the lumia looks like a really good phone, I think Nokia will make it in the smartphone market on the back of these bad boys
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Yeah very much so. Win 8 on the desktop and on ARM, Xbox, SkyDrive, the Nokia’s are absolutely superb by all accounts. All the different pieces are starting to come together. The whole ecosystem is going to be enormous.
 
Tried to run it in Vbox on a 2GB desktop but no go. Win7 is the actual OS on the desktop and needs at least 1GB of RAM to run, so when I tried to create a Win8 VM on it which also needs min 1GB of RAM to run, the system shat itself.

I'll wait for the official Win8 beta to come out in a couple of weeks and just do a clean install with it, at least by then the App Store should be working.
Don't see the point in doing a clean install now with the Win8 Dev Release as feature and functionality wise it doesn't seem all that different to Win7.
 
weevil said:
Yeah very much so. Win 8 on the desktop and on ARM, Xbox, SkyDrive, the Nokia’s are absolutely superb by all accounts. All the different pieces are starting to come together. The whole ecosystem is going to be enormous.
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A friend of mine is an iOS developer and the biggest apple fanboy I have met, attends WWDC every year. He has recently purchased the lumia and says how great the phone is, so to me that says something.

Apple is heading in the direction that iOS and OSX will someday merge (as much as you can), I never thought windows would beat them to it though.

They will be massively behind with apps, but with the amount of C# devs out there (add JavaScript too) they should catch up pretty fast.

First time I've been excited by a windows release in a long time :thumbsu:
 
I'm looking forward to the next XBox you can see where they're going with the common UI across PC, Console and phone.

Talking to a developer they've proposed integrating the Windows phone into a xbox cricket game with the phone as the bat.
 

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dav3 said:
Seems kind of redundant if Kinect remains popular
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In combination with Kinect. Kinect for the footwork and the phone with it's
gyroscope.
 
BLue_Bloys said:
A friend of mine is an iOS developer and the biggest apple fanboy I have met, attends WWDC every year. He has recently purchased the lumia and says how great the phone is, so to me that says something.

Apple is heading in the direction that iOS and OSX will someday merge (as much as you can), I never thought windows would beat them to it though.

They will be massively behind with apps, but with the amount of C# devs out there (add JavaScript too) they should catch up pretty fast.

First time I've been excited by a windows release in a long time :thumbsu:
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Yeah it is going to be fascinating to see how it goes. People could just kinda shun it or it could be absolutely massive.
 
Windows changing their logo to fit in with the new W8

new_windows_logo.jpg


Here it is on a supposed leak on a developer preview laptop

new_windows_hardware_logo.jpg
 
Clay Davis said:
I don't see it doing that well.
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It’s all relative, Vista did very, very poorly and yet it alone has outsold all iOS devices by a considerable margin. Windows 7 has sold about twice as much as Vista.

If 8 sells somewhere in between those 2 it is still going to be a big player.
 

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weevil said:
It’s all relative, Vista did very, very poorly and yet it alone has outsold all iOS devices by a considerable margin. Windows 7 has sold about twice as much as Vista.
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Why the comparison between Vista/Win7 (desktop/laptop OS) versus iOS (phone/tablet OS)? Wouldn't Vista/Win7 versus OSX be a more appropriate comparison?

~90% of desktops and laptops - both consumer and enterprise - are running Windows. Granted that the Windows market share is declining, largely to Apple, but Android is also in the mix and gaining momentum.
It will be interesting to see where the 3 horse OS race ends up.
 
Because the same OS will run on both devices. Well actually the same device will be able to be both a tablet and a desktop. So there is likely to be big crossover. When you buy your next PC why not get the one that is your tablet too?

More analysts than you can poke a stick at are saying Windows Phone will overtake iOS.
 
This looks really sweet, I've loved "growing up" with WP7 (I've had my Mozart for over 12 months now) and it's been awesome to basically witness a new OS grow like it has. The Metro UI is the best looking on the market and its functionality is superb also. Only downsight is that the marketplace is still light on big-name apps but that will come in time.
 
weevil said:
Because the same OS will run on both devices. Well actually the same device will be able to be both a tablet and a desktop. So there is likely to be big crossover. When you buy your next PC why not get the one that is your tablet too?

More analysts than you can poke a stick at are saying Windows Phone will overtake iOS.
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Really? Why wouldn't this have happened with the Zune vs the iPod? Or Microsoft's similar abortive attempts at portable devices?

As I understand it, developing apps across device architecture (x86 vs ARM) won't be easy. Fragmentation is already built in to what they're doing. I love Windows on the desktop, but there's no more than a handful of apps I use on Windows that I would want on a portable device, ahead of the apps already available on the iOS/Android stores.

Right now iOS based devices generate more income for Apple than the entirety of Microsoft's revenue stream. That's a lot of catching up to do.
 
Clay Davis said:
Really? Why wouldn't this have happened with the Zune vs the iPod? Or Microsoft's similar abortive attempts at portable devices?
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Because they weren't really trying. MS make a huge number of products, not everyone is a massive hit. The core products Office, Windows, Xbox & Kinect kinda do okay.

Apple had a long history of unsuccessful products, why didn't this continue?

As I understand it, developing apps across device architecture (x86 vs ARM) won't be easy. Fragmentation is already built in to what they're doing.
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Apps will be 100% compatible on both platforms with no modifications whatsoever.

I love Windows on the desktop, but there's no more than a handful of apps I use on Windows that I would want on a portable device, ahead of the apps already available on the iOS/Android stores.
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You use some apps on the tablet, some on the desktop and some on both. The new version of office will apparently be fully touch compatible.

Right now iOS based devices generate more income for Apple than the entirety of Microsoft's revenue stream. That's a lot of catching up to do.
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Over the span of their existence Apple's earnings are tiny compared to Microsoft. MS have a long history of winning by playing the long game.
 

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