Winged Crows 2009

[KUNG FU]

This is a beautiful sight. Only 2 injuries:

ADELAIDE
Brett Burton (knee) - indefinite
Trent Hentschel (knee) - 2 weeks
Nick Gill (hamstring) - available

 

[cmndstab]

Does this mean James Moss is back? Chris Schmidt?

Or are they not listing rookies?

 

[KUNG FU]

Does this mean James Moss is back? Chris Schmidt?

Or are they not listing rookies?

It was from the AFL site and they had listed rookies for other clubs, ie D Pfeiffer, so I presumed it included ours. However, just had a look at afc.com.au and found while Schmidt is good to go:

Rookie James Moss (hip): (approx) 2 weeks.

 

[cmndstab]

Poor Mossy. I can't wait until he gets back!

 

[brucetiki]

It was from the AFL site and they had listed rookies for other clubs, ie D Pfeiffer, so I presumed it included ours. However, just had a look at afc.com.au and found while Schmidt is good to go:

Rookie James Moss (hip): (approx) 2 weeks.

That sounds promising - all I've been hearing is indefinate

 

[KUNG FU]

Oh also, the Advertiser has Schmidt as a test under West Adelaide's injury list.

 

[Jars458]

Poor Mossy. I can't wait until he gets back!

RIP then.

 

[chadleverington]

Hentschel has been 2 weeks for a while now, how long are his weeks?

 

[Drummond]

http://www.afc.com.au/injuries/tabid/8711/default.aspx

Rookie James Moss (hip): indefinate

I could cry, I rate him so highly. Would afccomau be so kind to give us an update on how he's travelling? Do they really have no idea at all when he's due back?

 

[cmndstab]

I wonder what's wrong with the kid

I'll put a question in to someone in the club I've been communicating with as of late to see if I can find out what's wrong with him. I hope he doesn't just turn into a player that never makes it because his body falls apart

 

[cmndstab]

Here's the reply I got:

"He had a hip operation to remove some bone flakes and is struggling with his recovery."


Do we have anyone here with some sort of medical knowledge that could give an idea about this sort of problem and what we can expect to happen? Is it the sort of thing that might take a full year or so?

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Crap. I am a huge wrap for Moss. He is the prototype AFC HBF for the future. Let's hope he gets back before the end of the year and gets an end of season upgrade to the senior list.

 

[Willis]

Bock out for another week. Bad news for the team and my dreamteam

ADELAIDE defender Nathan Bock has been ruled out of Saturday afternoon’s clash with Carlton at AAMI Stadium because of a nagging hamstring injury.

http://www.afc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4417/newsid/77203/default.aspx

 

[WALL-e]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/78944/default.aspx

ADELAIDE coach Neil Craig says he won’t put a timeframe on veteran Brett Burton’s return to AFL football.

Burton, 31, underwent a full-knee reconstruction after rupturing his anterior cruciate ligament against Collingwood at the MCG in round 15 last year.

The high-flying forward, who claims his knee is stronger than ever, hasn’t missed a beat in his rehabilitation and appeared ready for a return several weeks ago.

However, both Burton and the club opted for an overly cautious approach.

Burton has been in full training for the past fortnight and Craig said the athletic South Australian was on the verge of making a comeback.

“Brett could possibly play in the SANFL system next weekend, but that will depend on the medical staff,” Craig told afl.com.au.

“They have been really happy with him and you wouldn’t pick any difference [between Brett pre- and post-surgery].

“But we’ve got to make sure we don’t make a really poor decision for the sake of one or two weeks. We’ll be guided by how Brett feels, the conditioning staff and the medical staff.

“If there’s any doubt on what week it should be, we won’t take the risk because it’s stupid to do that.”

Forward Trent Hentschel is also on the comeback from his latest injury setback.

Hentschel, 26, made his return to AFL football over the summer and played the opening two rounds of the season before his troublesome knee flared up again.

Hentschel had more surgery on his knee in April and has started running again and managed a heavy training load during Adelaide’s trip to the Yorke Peninsula on Tuesday.

Both Hentschel and Burton are likely to require meaningful time in the SANFL before being considered for AFL recalls and both are out of contract at season’s end.

Craig said there would be no sentiment involved in the decisions made on either player at the end of the year.

“It’s important for Brett to play at some stage this year. The first step would be for him to demonstrate to himself and to us that he looks like he’s going to be okay and be able to get back to AFL level,” Craig said.

“All things going well, we’d like to think that Brett Burton is going to be here again next year, but in the end it won’t be what I or anyone else says, it will be what Brett does [that determines that].”

Craig said the next 10 weeks also represented an “important stage” in Hentschel’s injury-plagued career.

“We’re not going to push Trent hard until he’s ready to play because the reality is he’ll probably only get one more go at it [playing footy] again this year and hopefully when he plays he’ll be able to play the year out.”

Hopefully we get to see both of them again.

 

[cmndstab]

You know, I was thinking about it yesterday and Burton is the only senior player on our list (by senior I mean over 20) that we haven't given at least one game this year. Pretty incredible really.

 

[Jars458]

Burton back in the team would be a huge bonus towards the end of the season.

3 games in the SANFL shoild happen first of coursee. If he played for the Eagles in the SANFL finals I think he could take us to the flag.

 

[WALL-e]

1 reserves 2 senior sanfl games then in.

His fitness will be MORE than ready.

 

[Drummond]

I have a source, (you know who you are ), who says that Moss is out for the season. We better not delist him.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

Drum I've got a feeling I've heard or read that somewhere else before as well. It's a damn shame. The club has to either upgrade or delist this season don't they? What do people reckon will be the go?

Seems like a big risk to upgrade him, but judging by how highly rated he is on these boards, is it a worthwhile one? Would we be better off delisting in the hope that we get an opportunity to re-rookie? Or are the injury concerns over him that great that he's not worth the trouble?

I'll admit to never having seen him play, but given the wraps on him and the thinner draft pool this year, the latter option seems highly unlikely. I'd be happy with either of the first two, based on the very limited knowledge at my disposal.

 

[cmndstab]

We'll get to rerookie him, nobody else will even know anything about him.

 

[Gets!]

Who would come out for Burton?

 

[Drummond]

We'll get to rerookie him, nobody else will even know anything about him.

Why do you think we took with with pick 9 ahead of Petrenko and Salter? Because of the mob down the road. I'd imagine they'd take a liking to seeing him available for rookie listing.

 

[Lets Beyblade]

If the club rate him as highly as you Drum I'm sure they would rather keep him than the fairly high risk of selecting a dud at pick 80 or thereabouts. Would be a strong argument for keeping him particularly with this years draft shaping up to be a weak one.

 

[Vader]

We can offer him a 3rd year rookie contract... but he has to go through the ND unscathed before we get him back again.

If he survives the ND, then we can pre-list him ahead of the RD and the mob down the road can't get their dirty mitts on him. If they're willing to use a ND selection, putting him on their senior list, then there's nothing we can do about it.

 

[WALL-e]

If the club rate him as highly as you Drum I'm sure they would rather keep him than the fairly high risk of selecting a dud at pick 80 or thereabouts. Would be a strong argument for keeping him particularly with this years draft shaping up to be a weak one.

Yep.

If Moss > our potential last pick in draft then upgrade him.

If not, then roll the dice and try to re-rookie.