Another thing, maybe we need to submit a written petition to the club. I know we did the online one but sometimes those old fogey's (WCE board) want things hand written, rather than an electronic thing. Recently my wife's mate started a petition for some shade sails at a local park, she got over 500 online signatures, took it to the council, and they said they don't count, they need actual signatures from people, rather than a quick thing people do online. Now that to me is crazy and very narrow minded, I mean who doesn't do things online these days, but anyway, I just thought maybe it would have a little more traction if we were to try and get actual signatures on paper.