Winless Seasons

[JiggaDog]

Congratulations to the OP for finding a measurement of shitness that doesn't apply to the bulldogs.

Or the Tiges. Must say I was surprised.

 

[Northworth]

Teams to have not won a preliminary final in the last 50 years:

• Gold Coast
• Greater Western Sydney
• Western Bulldogs
• Fremantle

A bit of work to do for these sides to reverse the disturbing trend.

 

[jacko57]

It was actually Souf who lost to Norf in 1972. No, I didn't know that off-hand but I was curious enough to look it up as a cousin of mine played for Norf that year.

wasn't Reg Sanders (Saunders?) was it? IIRC, he kicked 6 that day against the Swans, giving him a career total of 8.

 

[JiggaDog]

Narrow Escapes Vol3 - What happened to the Roys?

If we look back through the history of failure in the VFL/AFL we see common themes popping up very early in the piece from teams such as St Kilda, Norf and University. Fitzroy on the other hand don't make an appearance on this timeline until much later. When they finally appear on the scene, the Roys failure is so great, they were told to gtfo of Victoria.

To compliment their aforementioned winless seasons, they also scraped by in the following ones ....

Fitzroy (1963, 1966, 1996) - The Lions hold the unenviable record here of being both the last team to go winless throughout a season (1964) and last team to win only one game during the season (1996). They can thank their lucky stars that the AFL decided to introduce a new "bunny" team - Fremantle - to the competition giving them their solitary win that season in Rd 8.

While we could go on about the Roys, its just not cool to dance on another teams grave. One day, we'll show the same respect to Norf

 

[Baldur]

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The irony from the masters of "but for" with their moral premiership

Even I don't call all the Carltank flogs Welsh becouse Black Flag is one of them.

In fact I made it quite clear that I considered St Kilda was damn lucky to get as close as we did, Collingwood was the better team that year.

Otherwise go Jigga with your Dog some more.

 

[Baldur]

Teams to have not won a preliminary final in the last 50 years:

• Gold Coast
• Greater Western Sydney
• Western Bulldogs
• Fremantle

A bit of work to do for these sides to reverse the disturbing trend.

It's unfair to blame a team for not winning something if they did not exist. Otherewise I could say that it took Carlton 13.75 Billion years to win their first flag.

Team that have been playing for 50 years that have not won a preliminary final for 50 years.

Western Bulldogs

 

[JiggaDog]

It's unfair to blame a team for not winning something if they did not exist. Otherewise I could say that it took Carlton 13.75 Billion years to win their first flag.

Team that have been playing for 50 years that have not won a preliminary final for 50 years.

Western Bulldogs

Teams that have been playing for 114 years and won only 1 premiership in 114 years:

St Kilda

 

[IluvHarvey]

Narrow Escapes

Some teams have been lucky to either avoid this list or not feature more prominently on it. Lets take a quick look at the teams who've scraped by with a single win for the season:

St Kilda (1900, 1901, 1910, 1943, 1947, 1955) - Once again topping the list of shitness is none other than the Saints. Everytime I look back into their history I am overawed at how good they are at being shit. How did this team avoid being a top contender for the Darwin awards?

During their little run of winless seasons, they were let off the hook once by Melbourne, twice by Norf and 3 times by Carlton (including the final round in 1910). Were it not for the insipid performances of Melbourne and Carlton in 1900 and 1901 respectively, the Saints would boast the proud record of back-to-back three-peats of winless seasons (a six-peat?).

There's no use running from it Sainters, embrace your shitness!

Yet in all our shitness we have still beaten the bulldogs more than we have lost to them!!

StK vs Foots/WB

Played 150
Saints 77
Bullflogs 70
Drawn 3

Wow if we are the that bad it must be pretty embarrassing for you!

Lets not forget 5-0 from the last five games played (and yes that does include 2 Prelims)

 

[JiggaDog]

Narrow Escapes - Return of the Redlegs

Yes the team that brought you bruise-free football backs up their winless season with a trio of narrow misses.

Melbourne (1906, 1951, 1981) - The Dees have gotten a lucky a few times avoiding some extra winless seasons, most recently with a narrow 1 point victory over the Dogs in 1981. Yeah I'm a bit embarrased that it was the Doggies that let them off, but after beating them in the '54 GF (flogged em too, not like St Kilda's pissy little 1 point win), making them the only team to concede one to Dogs, we couldn't very well let them go winless too.

The interesting one though is 1951, just before the Dees most successful period in their history, including a three-peat. Could they also be the pioneers of tanking?

 

[royals1922]

Teams that have been playing for 114 years and won only 1 premiership in 114 years:

St Kilda

I reckon you could make a claim in the Family Court that to bring your child up as a dogs supporter is an act of gross child abuse.

 

[Baldur]

I reckon you could make a claim in the Family Court that to bring your child up as a dogs supporter is an act of gross child abuse.

At the very least they are likely to end up as lying backstabbing incompetent ex-solictors. This cannot be good for anybody.

 

[Cthublhu]

wasn't Reg Sanders (Saunders?) was it? IIRC, he kicked 6 that day against the Swans, giving him a career total of 8.

Nah, cuz was Jeff Hopgood. He played 40 odd games for your mob late 60s to early 70s. He was referred to in the papers as a "giant ruckman", which means he'd be a slightly taller than average midfielder these days. His most prolific year for games (16, I think) was when they went 1-21. Nice guy though, and that branch of the family gave me suitable shit in 1999.

 

[jacko57]

Nah, cuz was Jeff Hopgood. He played 40 odd games for your mob late 60s to early 70s. He was referred to in the papers as a "giant ruckman", which means he'd be a slightly taller than average midfielder these days. His most prolific year for games (16, I think) was when they went 1-21. Nice guy though, and that branch of the family gave me suitable shit in 1999.

Hardly a giant. An honest trier...............of which we had an abundance in those days.

 

[JiggaDog]

Can't leave this historical recording of the most putrid seasons in VFL/AFL history incomplete. So without further adieu ....

Narrow Escapes - Rounding out the top 6

And so we round out the top 6 to have won only 1 game in a season .... funny how they are also the only 6 teams to have also gone winless in a season. These teams have all failed on a monumental scale and on a somewhat consistent basis. Group hug ...

University (1911, 1912) - Like Norf, University had the chance to match the Saints threepeat of winless seasons between 1911 and 1914. Luckily for them everyone's favourite whipping boy St Kilda and new entrant (1908) Richmond were there to save the day in 1911 and 1912 respectively. After losing its last 51 games in a row and much to the Saints horror, University was dealt a swift blow by Vlad's great uncle and were aborted from the competition at the conclusion of the 1914 season.

Hawthorn (1927, 1942) - Having been let off in 1927 by their partners in shitness - Norf - the Hawks were lucky to avoid back-to-back winless seasons. Fast-forward to 1942 and this time it was everyone's favourite toothless welfare cheats making life slightly less embarrassing for the Hawks. Such was their softness and ineptitude that following their reign of shite, sympathisers of the Maybloom name petitioned to have themselves disassociated from Hawthorn with all historical records struck .... the reason they are so difficult to find to this day.

 

[JiggaDog]

Narrow Escapes - New Kids on the Block

Making an appearance for the first time on the wall of shite, the teams below are not really in the same league of fail as their more accomplished brethren.

Geelong (1944) - The first of the new entrants is Geelong, with just the one season with a single victory. I think it would bring a wry smile to the faces of Geelong supporters to know that the team they beat to avoid a winless season was none other than the Hawks.

Sydney (1993) - The second and last of the new entrants, the Swans are the most recent team still in the AFL to have won only 1 game for the season. Anyone that remembers Sydney back then would be surprised they don't feature more prominently on either list, although they did win a threepeat of spoons between 1992 and 1994.

 

[royals1922]

Narrow Escapes - New Kids on the Block

Making an appearance for the first time on the wall of shite, the teams below are not really in the same league of fail as their more accomplished brethren.

Geelong (1944) - The first of the new entrants is Geelong, with just the one season with a single victory. I think it would bring a wry smile to the faces of Geelong supporters to know that the team they beat to avoid a winless season was none other than the Hawks.

Sydney (1993) - The second and last of the new entrants, the Swans are the most recent team still in the AFL to have won only 1 game for the season. Anyone that remembers Sydney back then would be surprised they don't feature more prominently on either list, although they did win a threepeat of spoons between 1992 and 1994.

The first team has won 2 more premierships in the last 5 years than the Dogs have over their history and the second team has actually won a flag and played in 2 other GFs in the last 40 plus years.

Well done Jigga.....

 

[JiggaDog]

The first team has won 2 more premierships in the last 5 years than the Dogs have over their history and the second team has actually won a flag and played in 2 other GFs in the last 40 plus years.

Well done Jigga.....

You're really struggling with comprehension of the topic aren't you royals?

Just because you've experienced the ultimate triumph does not mean you are incapable of experiencing the ultimate failure.

We all know the Dogs have struggled to win flags, but we've never stooped to the lows of the teams mentioned here. Yours being among the elite in this measure.

 

[Frankston Rover]

Well done Bulldogs!

You're ability to maintain consistent mediocrity over 86 seasons is truly remarkable.

 

[royals1922]

Just because you've experienced the ultimate triumph does not mean you are incapable of experiencing the ultimate failure.

We all know the Dogs have struggled to win flags

Do you not understand the concept of self pawnage.

 

[JiggaDog]

Do you not understand the concept of self pawnage.

I do, but it seems you struggle.

Please point out said self pawnage, since all I've done in this thread is provide a history lesson on the shittiest seasons in the AFL. (to restate for you .... nothing to do with premierships). If the Dogs ever have a winless season (or even a season with just 1 win), feel free to bump this thread and claim self pawnage.

Its insecure knobs like you that bring up the same old flag retorts in every thread that make this place feel like cut 'n paste city.

 

[Brissy Bomber]

With EffingDumb headed for a winless season either this year or next we need to keep reminding them of how terrible they are by bumping this thread.

 

[RogersResults]

Hawthorn? Yes we were truly shit for many many years when we first joined the VFL. Thank God the Great John Kennedy Snr came along and changed all that!

It was Jack Hale who changed it all. Kennedy's coach and mentor and one of the bravest and toughest men ever to pull on a football boot. Forget Hale and you disrespect your club's history. Kennedy himself has said that it was Hale who laid the foundations for the 1961 breakthrough premiership.

When Hale took over the coaching position part way through 1952, Hawthorn's match/win% from its time in the League was barely over 20%, the worst of all teams - behind even University's career M/W% of 22.22.

From 1954 just 18 months into Hale's building of a new club culture and regime, Hawthorn has to the end of the 2011 season won the highest percentage of matches in the competition.

1954-2011 M/W%
1. Hawthorn 57.87
2. Carlton 57.57
3. Essendon 57.15
4. Collingwood 57.12
5. Geelong 56.15

1897-1953 M/W%
10. St Kilda 32.10
11. Nth Melb 31.59
12. University 22.22
13. Hawthorn 21.55

One of the first things Hale did when he took over as Hawthorn coach was to end the tradition of cream-cakes and chocolate eclairs for the players at half-time.

 

[RogersResults]

Percentage of seasons with a match/win percentage under 25%.

Adelaide       0.00
Collingwood    3.48       
Essendon       4.42       
Port Adelaide  6.67       
Carlton        7.83       
Geelong        9.82       
Richmond      10.58       
Fremantle     11.76       
West Coast    12.00       
Sydney/SM     12.28 
Fitzroy       16.00       
WB/Footscray  17.24       
Brisbane      20.00       
Nth Melbourne 20.69 
Melbourne     21.43       
Hawthorn      25.29       
St Kilda      30.09       
University    57.14       
Gold Coast    100.00

 

[RogersResults]

Last 30 seasons (1982-2011)
Percentage of Seasons with a Match/Win Percentage below 25%.

  Adelaide       0.00
  Geelong        0.00
  Essendon       3.33
  Nth Melbourne  3.33
  Hawthorn       6.67
  Port Adelaide  6.67
  Collingwood   10.00
  WB/Footscray  10.00
  Fremantle     11.76
  West Coast    12.00
  Sydney/SM     13.33
  Carlton       16.67
  Melbourne     16.67
  Brisbane      20.00
  Richmond      20.00
  Fitzroy       26.67
  St Kilda      26.67
  Gold Coast   100.00