Analysis - Winners and losers of the draft (2018 edition) | Page 17 | BigFooty

Analysis Winners and losers of the draft (2018 edition)

Discussion in 'Drafts, Trading & Free Agency' started by raffrox, Nov 22, 2018.

  1. The Bomb

    The Bomb Premiership Player

    Essendon
    Joined:
    Dec 10
    Posts:
    4,879
    I haven't watched any under 18 footage, not even seen player highlight tape other than the few Essendon picked, but I noticed 3 SA boys and 2 Tassie boys in the top 10, So I'm thinking this draft could be a complete flop, in the last 10 drafts I would like to know how many guns from SA and Tassie are actually playing in the AFL, because I don't think there are a whole heap and 5 from 1 draft seems oddly high.

    So maybe the teams which do best are the ones which traded away early selections for proven guns.
     

    (Log in to remove this ad.)

  2. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Joined:
    May 13
    Posts:
    19,119
    Other Teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    Lol - what a bizarre post. Only kids drafted in the top 10 from Vic will be any good!!

    Past = future. It’s been 14 years since ess won a final so it will be another 14 years since they will win the next.

    It’s the same logic that you have used.
     
    mike91, adammania9, azza77 and 6 others like this.
  3. Mitchell54

    Mitchell54 Norm Smith Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Joined:
    Oct 13
    Posts:
    8,336
    Other Teams:
    Sixers, Exers, GWS Womens
    Here’s all the Tassie players in the system club by club

    http://www.afltas.com.au/tasmanians-in-afl/?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiE7eus9fzeAhWDWX0KHT4SCqQQ1i8wD3oECA0QHA

    AFL
    Adelaide
    > Hugh Greenwood (Adelaide)
    > Chayce Jones (Launceston)

    Brisbane
    > Mitch Robinson (Lauderdale)

    Carlton
    > Liam Jones (North Hobart)
    > Andrew Phillips (Lauderdale)

    Collingwood
    > Jeremy Howe (Dodges Ferry / Hobart)
    > Brody Mihocek (Burnie – drafted from Port Melbourne)

    Essendon
    > Tom Bellchambers (Launceston / North Launceston)

    Fremantle
    > Hugh Dixon (Tigers)
    > Alex Pearce (Devonport)

    Geelong
    > Jake Kolodjashnij (Launceston)

    Gold Coast
    > Lachie Weller (Burnie)

    GWS Giants
    n/a

    Hawthorn
    > Grant Birchall (Devonport)
    > Tim Mohr (Launceston)

    Melbourne
    > Kade Kolodjashnij (Launceston)

    North Melbourne
    > Ben Brown (Glenorchy / Devonport)
    > Aaron Hall (Hobart)
    > Tarryn Thomas (North Launceston)

    Port Adelaide
    n/a

    Richmond
    > Toby Nankervis (North Launceston)
    > Jack Riewoldt (Clarence)
    > Fraser Turner (Clarence)
    > Maverick Weller (Burnie)

    St Kilda
    > Jimmy Webster (Glenorchy)

    Sydney
    > Robbie Fox (Burnie)
    > Jackson Thurlow (Launceston)

    West Coast Eagles
    n/a

    Western Bulldogs
    n/a
     
    azza77, Kane McGoodwin and Bicks like this.
  4. Warhorse

    Warhorse Club Legend

    Geelong
    Joined:
    Sep 17
    Posts:
    1,176
    Geelong holding firm on kelly was vindicated when the eagles ended up with 2 late 20s picks. Our first pick was fantastic the rest meh
     
  5. Bicks

    Bicks Premium Platinum

    Adelaide
    Joined:
    Jun 09
    Posts:
    27,335
    Location:
    Victorian Central Highlands
    Other Teams:
    Panthers, GWV Rebels Beaufort Crows
    Ben Jarvis is anything but 'meh'....X factor on steroids and a Stephen Wells special if he reaches his full potential.
     
    year of the cat likes this.
  6. Suma Magic

    Suma Magic Brownlow Medallist

    West Coast
    Joined:
    Aug 09
    Posts:
    20,922
    Our two picks ended up as 23 and 25. Lots of quality were available at those selections. Could have had Ian Hill and Valente for example.
     
  7. TradeDraft

    TradeDraft Premium Gold

    Collingwood
    Joined:
    Oct 09
    Posts:
    115,036
    Location:
    Mornington Peninsula
    Collingwood did well with not going in to Deficit for next years Draft:thumbsu:
     
    adammania9 likes this.
  8. TradeDraft

    TradeDraft Premium Gold

    Collingwood
    Joined:
    Oct 09
    Posts:
    115,036
    Location:
    Mornington Peninsula
    To me the Suns are the Big Winner.

    What a Haul with there 3 top 10 Picks and Luckcouis,Rankine and Ben King. IF they can keep them there these 3 can help this team come a Final Threat in 2-3 Seasons
     
  9. master bate

    master bate Brownlow Medallist

    Melbourne
    Joined:
    Aug 06
    Posts:
    13,103
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Unusual post but it is interesting.

    Jack Riewoldt, Ben Brown, Howe and Nankervis amongst others are seriously good footballers and Tassie's population is big enough that 2 top 10 picks is more of an outlier than a mistake.

    It's probably no difference to one particular TAC cup team having 2 top 10 picks. Sandy had 3 this year, Dandenong 3 in the top 10 the year before.

    3 in the top 5 from SA is also rare but the comp is full of talented South Australian's. Again, it's probably not as unusual as some of the TAC cup stuff that happens. In the 2016 draft the Sandy Dragons had the top 2 picks (McGrath and Taranto) as well as 3 more in the top 11 (Setterfield, Scrimshaw, Florent).
     
    Ants likes this.
  10. year of the cat

    year of the cat Brownlow Medallist

    Geelong
    Joined:
    Mar 06
    Posts:
    15,835
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Much rather Kelly for another year
     
  11. Suma Magic

    Suma Magic Brownlow Medallist

    West Coast
    Joined:
    Aug 09
    Posts:
    20,922
    Me too.

    The trade deal we offered was those two picks + a 2019 second though. Which has ended up being closer to 5 second round picks for us after our trades with Sydney and Gold Coast on draft night.

    A good non-result for both teams id say. Cats get another year of Kelly, we get Kelly much cheaper a year later.
     
    Warhorse likes this.

    (Log in to remove this ad.)

  12. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Joined:
    May 13
    Posts:
    19,119
    Other Teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    Same with North.
     
    TradeDraft likes this.
  13. year of the cat

    year of the cat Brownlow Medallist

    Geelong
    Joined:
    Mar 06
    Posts:
    15,835
    Location:
    Melbourne
    We’ll see.
     
  14. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Joined:
    May 13
    Posts:
    19,119
    Other Teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    Much cheaper? Another good year and he won’t go for cheaper. Geelong has shown you won’t force their hand with a rubbish offer.
     
    footyfan78 likes this.
  15. Barlow#14

    Barlow#14 Norm Smith Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Joined:
    Nov 09
    Posts:
    5,037
    In - Out
    Wingard 25 - Rioli 29
    Scully 27 - Whitecross 28
    Minchington 24 - Duryea 27
    Scrimshaw 20 - Burton 21
    Kosi 18 - Heatherley 23
    Walker 18 - ORourke 24
    Greaves 18 - Lovell 21
    Golds 18 - Wilsmore 23
    Mohr 30 - Vickery 28

    That's a net win. IMO.
     
    Warhorse likes this.
  16. Suma Magic

    Suma Magic Brownlow Medallist

    West Coast
    Joined:
    Aug 09
    Posts:
    20,922
    Geelong requested 20, 22 and our 2019 first. We said no.

    We turned 20, 22 and a future third into 4 second round picks.

    I seriously doubt that we will be giving up the equivalent of a first rounder and 3.5 second rounders for Kelly this year. I’d say it will be much less than that.
     
  17. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Joined:
    May 13
    Posts:
    19,119
    Other Teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    They will want a top 10 pick. Which is a fair price.
     
    footyfan78 likes this.
  18. Suma Magic

    Suma Magic Brownlow Medallist

    West Coast
    Joined:
    Aug 09
    Posts:
    20,922
    That would be a far better outcome for us than what they wanted this year. If we have an off year this year, then that deal they requested would have netted them a top 10 pick and the equivalent of 3.5 second rounders.
     
  19. jackess

    jackess Hall of Famer

    Brisbane Lions
    Joined:
    Aug 05
    Posts:
    32,349
    Would West Coast be that keen? They've got a great midfield already.
     
  20. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Joined:
    May 13
    Posts:
    19,119
    Other Teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    Of course they would be. Look at your own team - great midfield and brought in Beams.
     
  21. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Joined:
    May 13
    Posts:
    19,119
    Other Teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    Where did you read they wanted 20, 22 & next years 1st? All I read was they wanted a top 10 pick.

    Are you putting mayo on your posts to try and make Geelong out to be the bad guys?
     
  22. Suma Magic

    Suma Magic Brownlow Medallist

    West Coast
    Joined:
    Aug 09
    Posts:
    20,922
    It was widely reported. Including on the live coverage of the last hour of trade radio.

    We offered 20, 22 and a future second. It was rejected.

    They wanted 20, 22 and a future first. I don’t think it was surprising that we walked away.
     
  23. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill Brownlow Medallist

    North Melbourne
    Joined:
    May 13
    Posts:
    19,119
    Other Teams:
    Seattle Seahawks
    I have only seen the Cats ask for a top 10 pick. I can supply plenty of links.

    None talk about the offer your suggesting. I call bullshit.
     
  24. Suma Magic

    Suma Magic Brownlow Medallist

    West Coast
    Joined:
    Aug 09
    Posts:
    20,922
  25. Brett C

    Brett C All Australian

    Brisbane Lions
    Joined:
    Oct 14
    Posts:
    825
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Other Teams:
    Manchester United
    Scully if you can get him fit is for me one of the biggest trade steals in the last 20 years. The guy is a gun and underrate by too many.

    With the rule changes his type of run/carry and kicking effectiveness makes him even more important
     
    Kane McGoodwin and Bob Cobb like this.
Back To Top

Share This Page