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Gee thats negative to Phar Lap and Black Caviar. Poor formCannot believe how many negative posts I have seen. Never seen Phar Lap but can go back to Tulloch. Winx is the best ever Aussie followed by Black Caviar I cannot comment on overseas horses. You cannot query 33 in a row (after saturday, 25 group 1's and 4 cox plates).
Only question is the quality of the opposition but she has made good horses look second rate, run times and won when it did not look possible.
Yet you get offended when arguments are presented to say Winx isn't GOAT. Good enough to say Black Caviar isn't GOAT, its good enough to say Winx isn't.Yeah he says Black Caviar is the second best horse he has ever seen and he never saw Phar Lap - really putting them down there how does he sleep at night.
The 2016 CP is the peak performance for mine.I can't understand how any racing fan could watch her gap Hartnell in about 3 seconds flat on her way to romping in the 2016 Cox plate without getting goosebumps.
Yup - he'd won his previous three starts by 8 lengths, 6 lengths and 3 lengths (flogging Jameka who bolted in a Caulfield Cup next start) then went on to run 3rd in the Melbourne Cup.The 2016 CP is the peak performance for mine.
Hartnell leading into that race was easily winning its lead up races. If my memory serves me correctly, Hartnell had won the Turnbull by 5 lengths and entered the CP well in commission.
She put him to the sword. Think we actually underrate Hartnell as well. Hes a very good wfa distance horse. Hope he runs second to her today to stamp her greatness.
Agreed - a clear #2 on my list given that she flogged the Grey Cat who was laughable undersThe '17 George Ryder is right up there for me. Powered through the mud better than I have seen any horse. Came off the back of connections toying with scratching her because of the wet too
LOL. Get in the sea. EP was flogged.Let us begin our confessions with the day I backed Entirely Platinum to beat her in an Epsom (looking back he was slaughtered by Berry and should have won easily)
He was placed once more at a subsequent 11 starts (3rd to Miss Rose De Lago and Jacquinot Bay) and she has fallen in for another 28 wins
Still believe it was a good bet........
I still to this day, am not indebted to any other living creature than Hartnell, and the dickheads hyping him, for giving me the gracious odds of $1.80 on a horse that was by all measurable statistics, approximately 8-10 lengths better than him.Despite whatever people think about GOAT horse and all that she’s definitely going to leave a massive hole in racing.
Probably one of the main reasons I started to really get into racing. Her first two Cox plate wins were something to behold, particularly the 2016 one when I remember there being a fair bit of noise around Hartnell. One of the all time great moments when Winx and Hartnell take off together but Winx just leaves Hartnell for dead heading around the bend.
So you rated Winx a 4/1 shot of dying then.Hartnell was a deserved 4-1 shot on that day. He had won his races by 6 and 8 lengths then demolished the Caulfield Cup winner on route. If you want to thank anyone thank the punters who made a number of genuine 50s+ chances about 15-1
Cbf arguing about something after the event but Hartnell was a different horse that prep and deserved to be as short as $5 based on what he had just done in the TurnbullSo you rated Winx a 4/1 shot of dying then.
She was gross overs and he should have been $11 or something.
He had an immeasurable amount of ground to make up based on their previous meetings.
Given Kem the Cat once started close to $5 against Winx Hartnell should have been a $2.10 shot based on the form he was in at the timeCbf arguing about something after the event but Hartnell was a different horse that prep and deserved to be as short as $5 based on what he had just done in the Turnbull
I was suspended so I’m only responding to this now. Would you take a champion horse you owned overseas and risk injury and future preps for a big race overseas? I wanted Winx to go overseas but squibbing it is a bridge too far. They kept her in Australia because it was nearly guaranteed that she would win them another $15m.Highland reel she faced once and he was first up on a tight track which would be firmer than anything he had stepped foot on before. Would have liked to see her do that at royal ascot or Dubai World Cup night.
Sensational horse and the second best I’ve seen in the flesh but connections and trainer are complete squibs