well with the list the saints have deffinately goin up
west coast will go up but with the lose of great players through retirement not quite top 8 just yet maybe 2 years max
freo got some good players lost some good players maybe enough to just make the top 8 not enough to be a major chance for the flag
essendon didn't do much so probly stay the same
collingwood got some good players they will probly go up
brisbane didn't do much either may slip out the 8
adelaide probly go about the same
carlton proly a bit weaker next season
geelong probly stay bout the same
hawks and melbourne will stay about the same
kangaroos may go down may not
tigers sydney and the bulldogs didn't do much either
what does everyone else think
west coast will go up but with the lose of great players through retirement not quite top 8 just yet maybe 2 years max
freo got some good players lost some good players maybe enough to just make the top 8 not enough to be a major chance for the flag
essendon didn't do much so probly stay the same
collingwood got some good players they will probly go up
brisbane didn't do much either may slip out the 8
adelaide probly go about the same
carlton proly a bit weaker next season
geelong probly stay bout the same
hawks and melbourne will stay about the same
kangaroos may go down may not
tigers sydney and the bulldogs didn't do much either
what does everyone else think