Society/Culture Woke. Can you tell real from parody?

[Chief]

Rolled over to Part 2:

Society/Culture - Woke. Can you tell real from parody? - Part 2 -

Potatoes have no gender. And soon, nearly 70 years (sic), the name of Hasbro’s popular spud-shaped toy will reflect that: No more Mr. Potato Head. It’s just Potato Head. On Thursday, the company announced it would be rebranding the iconic quick-change toy to break away from traditional ideas...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Chief]

shoved down their throat

This imagery seems to be a common thing among the anti-woke crowd.

Interesting.

 

[zill]

Bud light weren't selling the Dylan Mulvaney cans were they ?

They used him in their marketing. That's what they associated their product with. I'm sure the internet is filled with details of the psychology of marketing campaigns. Bud light would be well aware of this, yet did what they did anyway. Now their sales are down ~$20M a week.

 

[Gough]

They used him in their marketing. That's what they associated their product with. I'm sure the internet is filled with details of the psychology of marketing campaigns. Bud light would be well aware of this, yet did what they did anyway. Now their sales are down ~$20M a week.

Are you really this fragile?

 

[happy_eagle]

They used him in their marketing. That's what they associated their product with. I'm sure the internet is filled with details of the psychology of marketing campaigns. Bud light would be well aware of this, yet did what they did anyway. Now their sales are down ~$20M a week.

Its her

 

[zill]

Are you really this fragile?

The discussion is about woke companies. I'm just pointing out how it can go wrong. People in the real world aren't interested in this lgb stuff, as bud light has found out.

 

[Cap]

The discussion is about woke companies. I'm just pointing out how it can go wrong. People in the real world aren't interested in this lgb stuff, as bud light has found out.

This is like the trans mass shooter isn't.

Finally got one they can talk about so we'll never hear the end of it. Even if it's impact overall is realistically insignificant

 

[morningbrown]

They used him in their marketing. That's what they associated their product with. I'm sure the internet is filled with details of the psychology of marketing campaigns. Bud light would be well aware of this, yet did what they did anyway. Now their sales are down ~$20M a week.

It was literally ONE TIKTOK POST THAT YOU WOULD ONLY WILLINGLY SEE IF YOU FOLLOWED HER OR YOUR FOR YOU PAGE WAS FULL OF TRANS CONTENT.

Feel like I'm taking crazy pills with this s**t.

 

[Chief]

him

Look at this trash.

You scared little twerp.

 

[zill]

It was literally ONE TIKTOK POST THAT YOU WOULD ONLY WILLINGLY SEE IF YOU FOLLOWED HER OR YOUR FOR YOU PAGE WAS FULL OF TRANS CONTENT.

Feel like I'm taking crazy pills with this s**t.

Isn't the point of social media to try and go viral?

 

[Chief]

Isn't the point of social media to try and go viral?

You've got a virus, that's for sure.

 

[bourbons]

It was literally ONE TIKTOK POST THAT YOU WOULD ONLY WILLINGLY SEE IF YOU FOLLOWED HER OR YOUR FOR YOU PAGE WAS FULL OF TRANS CONTENT.

Feel like I'm taking crazy pills with this s**t.

"Shoved down their throat"

Its is rather strange innit

 

[schneebly111]

Jeremy’s Chocolate Sells Half A Million Chocolate Bars Within Days Of Launch | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

They sold half a million total chocolate bars in a week after launch, for a product which is a fad and will probably end manufacture after the conservative outrage wears off.

Hershey’s by comparison sells 80 million of one single product (Hershey’s Kisses) PER DAY.

No comparison.

 

[Chief]

They sold half a million total chocolate bars in a week after launch, for a product which is a fad and will probably end manufacture after the conservative outrage wears off.

Hershey’s by comparison sells 80 million of one single product (Hershey’s Kisses) PER DAY.

No comparison.

They charge like $6 a pop or something so no it's not a mass-marketed product. It's a gimmick.

But you can see how the grifters are trying to grab their little bit of the bigot market. That is the point here.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

This imagery seems to be a common thing among the anti-woke crowd.

Interesting.

The existential fear that dicks just might be delicious haunts them all day long.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Another dangerous “woke” book taken out of schools in Ron DeSantis’s Florida:

Mem Fox book Guess What? removed in Florida county under Ron DeSantis bill

Duval County says book by bestselling Australian children’s author has since been approved by specialist panel

www.theguardian.com

I would consider that an act of war by the Branch Floridian cult against the people of Australia. I wonder if Mr Biden would be so kind as to let the Australian Navy calibrate its new AUKUS sub-launched cruise missiles (when they arrive) against Branch Floridian targets all over the panhandle?

 

[Seeds]

Is it possible for everyone wanting to post about alt righters like desantis go into one of the many threads devoted to that topic? The last 6 pages have gone completely off topic.

we dont discuss alt righters who call everything they dont like socialist in debates about capitalism vs socialism. We should not do the same in a thread about wokism. The opposite of wokeism isnt conservatism anyway. Both want to ban books. Both have way too many similarities.

the opposite to wokism is liberalism. The anti wokes are liberals.

 

[Gough]

Is it possible for everyone wanting to post about alt righters like desantis go into one of the many threads devoted to that topic? The last 6 pages have gone completely off topic.

we dont discuss alt righters who call everything they dont like socialist in debates about capitalism vs socialism. We should not do the same in a thread about wokism. The oppisite of wokeism isnt comservatism. Both want to ban books.

the opposute to wokism is liberalism. The anti wokes are liberals.

Tell me what woke is then and we can move on to on to discussing it.

 

[Seeds]

In overall sales they are a minuscule fraction compared to major clothing brands. In Australia they don’t even exist.

Now on free market principles, and I always say this to the “anti woke”, if the “silent majority” is so sick of “wokeness” then brands that are “anti woke” should be raking in sales right? So how come anyone with a hint of business sense is not making those decisions? They know it’s a diverse market out there and DEI appeals to that market.

What are you even talking about? What the hell is a woke and anti woke brand? who makes a brand that is against something? Im against child slavery. But i dont where anti child slavery shirts. Im against Nazis. I have no anti nazis merchandise.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Is it possible for everyone wanting to post about alt righters like desantis go into one of the many threads devoted to that topic? The last 6 pages have gone completely off topic.

we dont discuss alt righters who call everything they dont like socialist in debates about capitalism vs socialism. We should not do the same in a thread about wokism. The opposite of wokeism isnt conservatism anyway. Both want to ban books. Both have way too many similarities.

the opposite to wokism is liberalism. The anti wokes are liberals.

Sounds like you are describing injustice, you are certainly aware of it in regards to this thread topic.

Seeds is woke.

 

[schneebly111]

What are you even talking about? What the hell is a woke and anti woke brand?

Woke brands are apparently most major businesses. Anti-woke brands are those who specifically appeal to right wingers. Like that chocolate bar brand that labelled bars with nuts as “male bars” and “female bars” for those without. I can’t think of too many anti woke brands in Australia, but feel free to post any if you have them.

 

[Seeds]

Tell me what woke is then and we can move on to on to discussing it.

Sounds like you are describing injustice, you are certainly aware of it in regards to this thread topic.

Seeds is woke.

woke people describe themselves as being conscious of racial discrimination in society and other forms of oppression and injustice.

but that description also describes liberals so yes by this definition I am woke. But the description doesnt distinquish those who have come to define themselves as woke and is in fact not an accurate description at all. Its a lie.

the woke have views and approaches that are wildly different to the liberals. In fact in some ways they are the antithesis of liberals and show a lack of awareness regarding racial discrimination and injustice.

liberals strongly believe in uniform application of human rights regardless of country. The woke do not. the woke are far more tolerant of discrimination against and even mistreatment of women or homosexuals in certain countries or by certain people with certain religious backgrounds. The antithesis of what human rights are. Uniform rights that apply to all.

Liberals believe we should aim to be a colour blind society. That we should ultimately treat race like hair colour. Something that is pretty much irrelevant to ones identity. its nothing but superficial. The woke believe largely the opposite and that race should be a key component to ones identity. They demand we celebrate our race as an important aspect of who we are. Not as something superficial. This is in part due to my next point concerning culture.

liberals believe culture is a set of shared behaviours and races do not own any behaviours. They are only the source of where certain behaviours have come from when races didnt mix. Liberals believe society thrives when people mix from different cultures and share. the woke have come to believe that certain behaviours are owned by specific races and only those races can perform these behaviours without their blessing. Behaviours and rights are a function of bloodlines. This is an extremely conservative approach. Like 19th century conservative.

the woke believe labels have casual powers rather than simply being useful descriptions of phenomena. This results in the woke getting upset about labels and wildly reacting to labels they disagree with as being the equivalent of discrimination or even violence.

liberals dont believe people should be disadvantaged in employment or have their views banned from publishing simply because they have shared opinions that are inconsistent with social norms. Liberals believe views should be debated and shown through reason why they might be wrong. The woke, like religious groups, believe unfavourable opinions should result in employment cancellation and bans on publishing.

liberals believe racial/sex/sexual preference discrimination is when we disadvantage any people in terms of the behaviours they can perform or the funds they can access based on race/sex or sexual preference when these aspects should not matter. The woke believe racial/sex/sexual preference discrimination is when we disadvantage any people based on race/sex or sexual preference unless they are white or male or straight. The post hoc reasoning is that disadvantage can only be applied from positions of power and since whites/males or straights are usually in the position of power they cant be discriminated against. The logic here is ofcourse ridiculous. usually doesnt mean all the time. people are individuals and not groups. its post hoc reasoning that is used to justify racial/sex and sexual preference discrimination.

 

[Seeds]

Woke brands are apparently most major businesses. Anti-woke brands are those who specifically appeal to right wingers. Like that chocolate bar brand that labelled bars with nuts as “male bars” and “female bars” for those without. I can’t think of too many anti woke brands in Australia, but feel free to post any if you have them.

so what is a woke brand? What does that even mean?

anti woke are not just right wingers.

 

[Carringbush2010]

woke people describe themselves as being conscious of racial discrimination in society and other forms of oppression and injustice.

but that description also describes liberals so yes by this definition I am woke. But the description doesnt distinquish those who have come to define themselves as woke and is in fact not an accurate description at all. Its a lie.

the woke have views and approaches that are wildly different to the liberals. In fact in some ways they are the antithesis of liberals and show a lack of awareness regarding racial discrimination and injustice.

liberals strongly believe in uniform application of human rights regardless of country. The woke do not. the woke are far more tolerant of discrimination against and even mistreatment of women or homosexuals in certain countries or by certain people with certain religious backgrounds. The antithesis of what human rights are. Uniform rights that apply to all.

Liberals believe we should aim to be a colour blind society. That we should ultimately treat race like hair colour. Something that is pretty much irrelevant to ones identity. its nothing but superficial. The woke believe largely the opposite and that race should be a key component to ones identity. They demand we celebrate our race as an important aspect of who we are. Not as something superficial. This is in part due to my next point concerning culture.

liberals believe culture is a set of shared behaviours and races do not own any behaviours. They are only the source of where certain behaviours have come from when races didnt mix. Liberals believe society thrives when people mix from different cultures and share. the woke have come to believe that certain behaviours are owned by specific races and only those races can perform these behaviours without their blessing. Behaviours and rights are a function of bloodlines. This is an extremely conservative approach. Like 19th century conservative.

the woke believe labels have casual powers rather than simply being useful descriptions of phenomena. This results in the woke getting upset about labels and wildly reacting to labels they disagree with as being the equivalent of discrimination or even violence.

liberals dont believe people should be disadvantaged in employment or have their views banned from publishing simply because they have shared opinions that are inconsistent with social norms. Liberals believe views should be debated and shown through reason why they might be wrong. The woke, like religious groups, believe unfavourable opinions should result in employment cancellation and bans on publishing.

liberals believe racial/sex/sexual preference discrimination is when we disadvantage any people in terms of the behaviours they can perform or the funds they can access based on race/sex or sexual preference when these aspects should not matter. The woke believe racial/sex/sexual preference discrimination is when we disadvantage any people based on race/sex or sexual preference unless they are white or male or straight. The post hoc reasoning is that disadvantage can only be applied from positions of power and since whites/males or straights are usually in the position of power they cant be discriminated against. The logic here is ofcourse ridiculous. usually doesnt mean all the time. people are individuals and not groups. its post hoc reasoning that is used to justify racial/sex and sexual preference discrimination.

Has anyone been suspended or thread banned for not following the narrative? Or in this example actually making sense?

You might be on the edge here Seeds, tis BF after, narrative trumps rationale, always.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

so what is a woke brand? What does that even mean?

anti woke are not just right wingers.

Nike.

Supporting Kaepernick taking a knee triggered all the anti woke right wingers (racists).

 

[schneebly111]

Nike.

Supporting Kaepernick taking a knee triggered all the anti woke right wingers (racists).

And increased Nike's sales 30% that year