Wood Vs Monfries

[snakebite01]

I must admit that I was being a bit hopeful when I did those especially regarding Lewis. I would be surprised if he doesn't get picked up in the first round. He is the type of player Port love.

In that midfield we would have 3 tough nuts that get the footy in Thompson, Lewis and Monfries and some pace to dish it out to in Pearce, Johncock and *sigh* Mattner.

The more I think about it the more I would love us to pick up Neaves. He might be gone by pick 40 though.

Hartlett, Watts and Hentschel in the same forward line would be good to see

I was just thinking about our tall options after I had thought about the midfield. Pretty impressive on paper and potential - McGregor, Watts, Hentschel, Rutten, Krueger, (Hartlett), and the future no.1 draft pick (to be taken sometime in the 40's) Gibbs.

And BTW Mattner has a LOT of potential if given opporunity and played in his correct position. God only knows why gary played him as a tagger at stages.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I was just thinking about our tall options after I had thought about the midfield. Pretty impressive on paper and potential - McGregor, Watts, Hentschel, Rutten, Krueger, (Hartlett), and the future no.1 draft pick (to be taken sometime in the 40's) Gibbs. .

I must admit the potential spine has me excited

I mean we would have some marking power and a couple of blokes that throw their weight around. IN the word of Healy "A couple of more years in the gym and no one will be messing with Fergus". With Watts, Hentschel, Krueger (Hartlett) and down the track Gibbs we have the potential of best ever forward line in the history of the club.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Some of u are so keen on the spine, but IMO u are placing too much on players who are NOT proven. Namely Watts...

so let's cure that problem by getting another unproven player...?

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Fair enough BUT no one will trade you a ruckman unless they are forced to and even then it will cost you a hell of a lot.

I think what a lot of people here are forgetting is that ruckman take a while to develop and as such we should have drafted a ruckman 3 years ago. Clarke has one year left in him and once he retires we have no one to take his place. We are not in a position to trade away draft picks for good ruckman and we are better off drafting them and developing them. There are not too many quality ruckman that came off the rookie list (Brogan is an exception).

We need to draft one, I am not saying draft one with our first pick, I say we MUST draft one in the National Draft. I say Rookie list a few of them but we still need to get someone on the main list.

and this is why taking a risk on Ackland must be looked at.

 

[Mad Dog]

and this is why taking a risk on Ackland must be looked at.

exacta-mundo......if sound...he could get us a little way back from where the Angwin thing put us.

Stiffy's draft choices sound good.....wishful thinking with Lewis and Hartlett though I think !
Truck / Kenny / Roo / Watts / Krueger.......exciting spine
midfield combo is promising

BLOODY HELL.....SOMEONE JUST BOUNCE A BALL FFS !!!

is it really still October ??

 

[Crowked]

Hey you guys, good to see I'm not the only one missing footy already.

I have had a read through your previous posts, looks pretty good to me. I hope we get a couple of those mentioned. I am a bit of a Wood fan but give me Monfries anyday too. Wish we could have em both.

The only one youve talked about, I dont like is Ackland . Lazy bastard. We dont need him.

Also, I was of the understanding that young Gibbs was an onballer. Is he a forward? Is he bigger than his dad? Or is he a small forward, say like the size of Phil Matera?

Come on you mighty Crows 2005

 

[Mad Dog]

Hey you guys, good to see I'm not the only one missing footy already.

I have had a read through your previous posts, looks pretty good to me. I hope we get a couple of those mentioned. I am a bit of a Wood fan but give me Monfries anyday too. Wish we could have em both.

The only one youve talked about, I dont like is Ackland . Lazy bastard. We dont need him.

Also, I was of the understanding that young Gibbs was an onballer. Is he a forward? Is he bigger than his dad? Or is he a small forward, say like the size of Phil Matera?

Come on you mighty Crows 2005

Welcome Crowked.. ....As you've read - I think Ackland will need to do something very special over the PS even to be considered. As far as I know - Gibbs Jr is more of a forward but RooDog is the expert in that area.

 

[No 1 Draft Pick]

Hi Guys

First timer here. And I thought I was the worlds most passionate Crows supporter until I found this site a few days ago....

Strongly believe we need a good ruck draft prospect with our first pick. Agree with all the comments re Clarke (1 yr left) and Biglands (talented but not young either and injury/tribunal prone). Hudson still has question marks but possibly a decent 3rd option in the squad.

Remember the impact of a Rehn - not just the 'heart and soul' but an amazingly talented ruckman who saved us time and time again. You can really build a team around them. Agree they need at least 2-3 yrs to develop so we need to recruit a sound prospect NOW. Rookie listings and later draft picks arent good bets and we have a horrid record in recent yrs in this regard

I think we need to be honest - it hurts me to say but will probably struggle again in 2005 and position 9-13 is most likely. That would give us another early draft pick for a young gun midfielder next year. And they can develop and play good footy within their first 2 yrs - something a young ruck probably wont do

So go ruckman first - unless for some reason a Griffen or Tampling slip through....

 

[Jars458]

Hi Guys

First timer here. And I thought I was the worlds most passionate Crows supporter until I found this site a few days ago....

Strongly believe we need a good ruck draft prospect with our first pick. Agree with all the comments re Clarke (1 yr left) and Biglands (talented but not young either and injury/tribunal prone). Hudson still has question marks but possibly a decent 3rd option in the squad.

Remember the impact of a Rehn - not just the 'heart and soul' but an amazingly talented ruckman who saved us time and time again. You can really build a team around them. Agree they need at least 2-3 yrs to develop so we need to recruit a sound prospect NOW. Rookie listings and later draft picks arent good bets and we have a horrid record in recent yrs in this regard

I think we need to be honest - it hurts me to say but will probably struggle again in 2005 and position 9-13 is most likely. That would give us another early draft pick for a young gun midfielder next year. And they can develop and play good footy within their first 2 yrs - something a young ruck probably wont do

So go ruckman first - unless for some reason a Griffen or Tampling slip through....

Welcome to the Crows board. An excellent first post. Agree 100%.

 

[Mad Dog]

Hi Guys

First timer here. And I thought I was the worlds most passionate Crows supporter until I found this site a few days ago....

Strongly believe we need a good ruck draft prospect with our first pick. Agree with all the comments re Clarke (1 yr left) and Biglands (talented but not young either and injury/tribunal prone). Hudson still has question marks but possibly a decent 3rd option in the squad.

Remember the impact of a Rehn - not just the 'heart and soul' but an amazingly talented ruckman who saved us time and time again. You can really build a team around them. Agree they need at least 2-3 yrs to develop so we need to recruit a sound prospect NOW. Rookie listings and later draft picks arent good bets and we have a horrid record in recent yrs in this regard

I think we need to be honest - it hurts me to say but will probably struggle again in 2005 and position 9-13 is most likely. That would give us another early draft pick for a young gun midfielder next year. And they can develop and play good footy within their first 2 yrs - something a young ruck probably wont do

So go ruckman first - unless for some reason a Griffen or Tampling slip through....

Good post - welcome aboard

 

[Stiffy_18]

Hey you guys, good to see I'm not the only one missing footy already.

I have had a read through your previous posts, looks pretty good to me. I hope we get a couple of those mentioned. I am a bit of a Wood fan but give me Monfries anyday too. Wish we could have em both.

The only one youve talked about, I dont like is Ackland . Lazy bastard. We dont need him.

Also, I was of the understanding that young Gibbs was an onballer. Is he a forward? Is he bigger than his dad? Or is he a small forward, say like the size of Phil Matera?

Come on you mighty Crows 2005

Gibbs is a bit of everything and is already 187 cm. I think he is 15 at the moment and hopefully he grows another 6-10 cm which I think he will. Then we will have our of Reiwoldt

 

[Stiffy_18]

Hi Guys

First timer here. And I thought I was the worlds most passionate Crows supporter until I found this site a few days ago....

Strongly believe we need a good ruck draft prospect with our first pick. Agree with all the comments re Clarke (1 yr left) and Biglands (talented but not young either and injury/tribunal prone). Hudson still has question marks but possibly a decent 3rd option in the squad.

Remember the impact of a Rehn - not just the 'heart and soul' but an amazingly talented ruckman who saved us time and time again. You can really build a team around them. Agree they need at least 2-3 yrs to develop so we need to recruit a sound prospect NOW. Rookie listings and later draft picks arent good bets and we have a horrid record in recent yrs in this regard

I think we need to be honest - it hurts me to say but will probably struggle again in 2005 and position 9-13 is most likely. That would give us another early draft pick for a young gun midfielder next year. And they can develop and play good footy within their first 2 yrs - something a young ruck probably wont do

So go ruckman first - unless for some reason a Griffen or Tampling slip through....

Welcome aboard

Good first post too. I think a lot of people under-rate just how valuable a good ruckman is to the side. Wouldn't we love to have a young Shaun Rehn in our squad now. A ruckman of that quality is crutial to a successful team. Hopefully we strike gold

 

[conVINCEd]

OK here are my suggesting and hoping that some players slide. This is what I would be very happy with in the draft

Pick 8: Angus Monfries
Pick 24: Jordan Lewis (This is what I mean by slipping )
Pick 28: Adam Hartlett (I get the feeling he will be picked up at 27 by the Lions)
Pick 40: Shane Neaves
Pick 56: Danyle Pearce

So we have:

Midfielder
Midfielder
KPP
Ruckman come Key forward
Midfielder.

We would have to be crazy lucky to get Lewis at #24. Have you lost interest in Woods, or a ruckman at #24, Stiffy?

I still really want to pick up Juniper, I love the sound of the guy.

I wish we were able to use more picks. I know we said that we didn't want kids in the 60's and 70's because this is a weak draft, but I think there are a lot of talented kids out there.

I'd rather have Neaves, Moran and Stribling on our list than Skippy, Shirley and Ladhams.

 

[Stiffy_18]

We would have to be crazy lucky to get Lewis at #24. Have you lost interest in Woods, or a ruckman at #24, Stiffy?

I still really want to pick up Juniper, I love the sound of the guy.

I wish we were able to use more picks. I know we said that we didn't want kids in the 60's and 70's because this is a weak draft, but I think there are a lot of talented kids out there.

I'd rather have Neaves, Moran and Stribling on our list than Skippy, Shirley and Ladhams.

Haven't lost interest in Wood but I am pretty sure that he won't be there at pick 8. I also think Maric will go before pick 24. I reckon St. Kilda might pick him up with their 1st rounder.

 

[Ricketts]

wood for me.

 

[BB gun]

wood

 

[RooDog]

well im hopeful after reading todays advertiser

it says the best players in the draft are Roughead, Franklin, Deledio, Griffen, Tambling and MEESON!! that means hopefully the hawks will take him with pick 7 and leave Wood for us

hopefully we will see:

in a crows jumper next season!

 

[crowsarethebest]

OK here are my suggesting and hoping that some players slide. This is what I would be very happy with in the draft

Pick 8: Angus Monfries
Pick 24: Jordan Lewis (This is what I mean by slipping )
Pick 28: Adam Hartlett (I get the feeling he will be picked up at 27 by the Lions)
Pick 40: Shane Neaves
Pick 56: Danyle Pearce

So we have:

Midfielder
Midfielder
KPP
Ruckman come Key forward
Midfielder.


Angus and Lewis are inside midfielders that we desperately need and Lewis would give us much needed grunt.

Hartlett will give us KPP who can play both ends but is more likely to settle as a forward. He has the potential to be 50+ goal a season player for us and will be an absolute monster when he beefs up. Also has great second efforts

Neaves is bottom age ruckman who is athletic and already a solid 97 kg to go with is 199 cm frame. Can also play forward.

Danyle Pearce would add the much needed pace to the side.

Thoughts????

I think we need to pcik pearce with pick 30 and then we pick neaves at 56.

 

[Russian]

Pick 8: Angus Monfries
Pick 24: Jordan Lewis (This is what I mean by slipping )
Pick 28: Adam Hartlett (I get the feeling he will be picked up at 27 by the Lions)
Pick 40: Shane Neaves
Pick 56: Danyle Pearce

Player types look about right to me but JR says you'll keep 56 for the PSD. Rookie list is probably the best place for ruckmen so perhaps Pearce at 40 but I think I'd be reluctant to go into a season with only three senior listed ruckmen and do withouth the quick player, depending who was likely to be available in December.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Player types look about right to me but JR says you'll keep 56 for the PSD. Rookie list is probably the best place for ruckmen so perhaps Pearce at 40 but I think I'd be reluctant to go into a season with only three senior listed ruckmen and do withouth the quick player, depending who was likely to be available in December.

I know that we will keep one pick for the pre-season but I was just suggesting the type of players we should pick up and where.

I would be one peeved off supporter if we don't pick up a ruckman in the National Draft.

I reckon that Juniper will probably be overlooked in the draft and we might snare him in the pre-season draft and pick up a midfielder instead of Hartlett. There are many combinations tho.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Hi Guys

First timer here. And I thought I was the worlds most passionate Crows supporter until I found this site a few days ago....

Strongly believe we need a good ruck draft prospect with our first pick. Agree with all the comments re Clarke (1 yr left) and Biglands (talented but not young either and injury/tribunal prone). Hudson still has question marks but possibly a decent 3rd option in the squad.

Remember the impact of a Rehn - not just the 'heart and soul' but an amazingly talented ruckman who saved us time and time again. You can really build a team around them. Agree they need at least 2-3 yrs to develop so we need to recruit a sound prospect NOW. Rookie listings and later draft picks arent good bets and we have a horrid record in recent yrs in this regard

I think we need to be honest - it hurts me to say but will probably struggle again in 2005 and position 9-13 is most likely. That would give us another early draft pick for a young gun midfielder next year. And they can develop and play good footy within their first 2 yrs - something a young ruck probably wont do

So go ruckman first - unless for some reason a Griffen or Tampling slip through....

welcome, good post.

I would call attention to the part about drafting a ruckman first.
I am afraid we will do just that.

draft A ruckman, for the sake of it, rather than the best player.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Welcome aboard

Good first post too. I think a lot of people under-rate just how valuable a good ruckman is to the side. Wouldn't we love to have a young Shaun Rehn in our squad now. A ruckman of that quality is crutial to a successful team. Hopefully we strike gold

Absolutely agree, I rate Rehn above King, Gardiner, White & Fraser - however what they have in common...

Players like that don't come along everyday, and it's even harder to get access to them.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Absolutely agree, I rate Rehn above King, Gardiner, White & Fraser - however what they have in common...

Players like that don't come along everyday, and it's even harder to get access to them.

Graham Cornes always tells a story about Laurence Angwin and the first time he saw him play at Glenelg. He came to work and told KG I have just seen young Shaun Rehn.

If ANY of the ruckman in this year's pool have the football ability of Laurence Angwin I wouldn't hesitate one second to pick them up with pick 8. For all his short comings Laurence Angwin was a super football talent and anyone that saw him play will say that. Pitty he wasn't mentally stable. If things have gone as they should have we wouldn't be having this discussion now

 

[Crow-mosone]

Graham Cornes always tells a story about Laurence Angwin and the first time he saw him play at Glenelg. He came to work and told KG I have just seen young Shaun Rehn.

If ANY of the ruckman in this year's pool have the football ability of Laurence Angwin I wouldn't hesitate one second to pick them up with pick 8. For all his short comings Laurence Angwin was a super football talent and anyone that saw him play will say that. Pitty he wasn't mentally stable. If things have gone as they should have we wouldn't be having this discussion now

I agree, the thing is though if Laurie wasn't a nut job, we wouldn't have gotten him at pick 7.

 

[FR0GGY]

Eckermann for me