News Workhorse (Priddis) Improves Efficiency

sTeeL · May 13, 2011

My opinion is that he is never going to be a world-breaker. He won't bust packs, he wont run down Stephen Hill or even Sandilands, but he does distribute and release well. This year he has taken it to another level in that whenever he has more than a millisecond he will consider the options and usually makes the best choice.

The durability of our 'star' extracting mids is at an all time low. Kerr, Shuey, Masten are all continuously injured and Swift seems content to slum it in WAFL. At times like this, Priddis is a godsend. Would I like 3 Kerr's? Sure. Or Judd? Definately. But we don't.

If Priddis can sit at the bottom of a pack for 3 years giving it out to the guys who are far more damaging protecting them from doing injuries every 3 games, I will be happy. Until you see that any of our other mids are durable enough, why would you want him out?

sTeeL · May 13, 2011

Eagle87 said:
The only reason I feel the need to consistently restate it is blokes like southjoy wandering in and adding nothing except "but, but. but the coaches like him ..." Our coaches are at risk of being sacked and a primary reason has been their inability to develop a midfield ... so ...

At one stage with the same coach had the most dominant midfield the game had ever seen.

The Falcon Strike · May 13, 2011

Eagle87 said:
I have been consistent from Day 1. He is a depth player, a 5th or 6th option midfielder in a good side (at most and thats a stretch given his lack of versatility). Thats not one-eyed fanatacism thats just a considered opinion.

Have to say E87 - that's the first time I have seen you write that and I reckon you'd find it hard to find too many who'd disagree. It's the point I've been arguing all along.

At present he's our 2nd best midfielder - to be a great side we need him shunted down by the others or kicked out alltogether.

I suspect if we get 6 or 7 midfielder better than him - we'd be challenging for a flag.

paran · May 13, 2011

Yeah TFS, but does Swift develop qwuickly playing on a wing for Swans or up the guts for the Eagles? Shouldn't Shuey and Masten get first shot at playing up the guts ahead of Priddis?

sTeeL · May 13, 2011

Btw, The West gave Pridda 1 vote for his game last weekend

And Swifty plays for the Tigers. Shuey/Masten no way. Need time to accustomise to the battering they are gonna get.

The Dodger · May 13, 2011

southjoy said:
Im definately with Falcon here.

Priddis
has the ability to read the ball at stoppages; this is an extremely difficult task and yes WCE would practice stoppage plays but that would be with the ruckman placing it where he wants too. In a game of AFL unless you have Sandilands it doesnt always go to script and importantly even when you have Sandilands it still doesnt mean it goes to script. Not many players in the AFL read the play as well as Priddis and that started from when he played Colts to him dominating the WAFL and also at the AFL level.

He also has great vision at stoppages and often gives the ball to teammates. This is why he has such high clearances(Player 1 gives to player 2 and the ball then goes to clear advantage of said team). Yes sometimes his handball is intercepted - he is playing against other elite players. And sometimes he is tackled sufficiently for the ball to not go to where he is aiming- same happens to Judd.

He is slow footed on the run and he can be hurt by his oppo on the rebound. But in traffic he feints as well as any person in the AFL and in extreme traffic he thinks as quickly as most.

He is given the first tag by Oppo coaches who realise how important he is to WCE winning. He also polls votes from Oppo coaches for his work. He is highly reagraded by our coaches. And he is highly regarded by Interstate Football and Media type people. The people in the Coaching Game rate this player.

Im happy with their assessment and I personally appreciate his great work and am enjoying the fact of having other WCE players starting to really get a fine midfield 8-12 players happening.

He is good at first hands. In regards to the ruck setup, you will always plan for a win/loss so not sure what you mean there. My point is that until Kerr has been on the seen and fit, our plan for win of the of the ruck is tapping to where Priddis is running through.

On the great vision at stoppages we obviously have a difference of opinion on. Jobe Watson showed what good vision was on Sunday. I think it would be interesting to see the stats of player getting first hands to ball against number of eventual clearances.

He is slow and exposed in space thats right, which is why I am interested to know his role if we start directing play through Kerr? If he is not in the guts of the contest he is a liability, as he then spends more time in space against players who are faster and have better skills.
I don't think his feinting in traffic is very good at all. It's like a slower ball in cricket that is too slow and the batsmen can re-adjust anyway

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On coaches votes he has 11 votes from 6 games. 10 votes came in 1 best on ground performance. In comparison to inside mids form other teams who have won about the same amount of games who don't get an arm chair ride from their ruckman:
Melb 3 wins - Moloney 35 votes
Rich 3 wins - Martin 24 votes
WB 2 wins - Boyd 28 votes
I think he has improved this year. But I am seeing a pattern develop that when teams sit on Kerr, and Priddis is free he really looks out of his depth. Sydney & Essendon games are a prime example.

The Falcon Strike · May 13, 2011

paran said:
Yeah TFS, but does Swift develop qwuickly playing on a wing for Swans or up the guts for the Eagles? Shouldn't Shuey and Masten get first shot at playing up the guts ahead of Priddis?

I reckon if Swift thinks he is playing on a wing for the Swans - that might be the start of his problems....

The Dodger · May 13, 2011

The Falcon Strike said:
I reckon if Swift thinks he is playing on a wing for the Swans - that might be the start of his problems....

That would show a real lack of awareness

Trouto · May 13, 2011

sTeeL said:
Your blatant one-eyed fanaticism is getting beyond a joke E87. I am going to sit down after my uni exams and learn how to create my own video edit of Priddis in one or two games. Ill even pick games you didnt give him votes(aka every game) and show you just how well his vision and creativeness is.

Steel, i think this would be a waste of your time. Priddis could win the next three Brownlow's and there would be people on this site that say "Ploddis didnt get that handball on target last Saturday, axe him". I guess when you have got long curly hair, people either love you or hate you.

southjoy · May 13, 2011

Eagle87 said:
Feel free. I suspect my 10+ years of watching him may over ride selected highlights - I mean even a stopped clock is right twice every day ...

I have been consistent from Day 1. He is a depth player, a 5th or 6th option midfielder in a good side (at most and thats a stretch given his lack of versatility). Thats not one-eyed fanatacism thats just a considered opinion.

The only reason I feel the need to consistently restate it is blokes like southjoy wandering in and adding nothing except "but, but. but the coaches like him ..." Our coaches are at risk of being sacked and a primary reason has been their inability to develop a midfield ... so ...

My turn to LOL. It's a forum where from what ive read you are allow to "wander in" and pass comment. I'm also sure that it wasnt the but but but. I think i stated why i think he is very good at what he does and there are a lot of stats that support this.

Tell you what though youll always see me listening to other peoples point of view with an open mind and with an ability to disagree without the need to being anoyminously rude about others point of view.

10years plus watching Priddis puts you back into his development years and further back than when I saw him come into Colts

southjoy · May 13, 2011

The Dodger said:
He is good at first hands. In regards to the ruck setup, you will always plan for a win/loss so not sure what you mean there. My point is that until Kerr has been on the seen and fit, our plan for win of the of the ruck is tapping to where Priddis is running through.
On the great vision at stoppages we obviously have a difference of opinion on. Jobe Watson showed what good vision was on Sunday. I think it would be interesting to see the stats of player getting first hands to ball against number of eventual clearances.

He is slow and exposed in space thats right, which is why I am interested to know his role if we start directing play through Kerr? If he is not in the guts of the contest he is a liability, as he then spends more time in space against players who are faster and have better skills.
I don't think his feinting in traffic is very good at all. It's like a slower ball in cricket that is too slow and the batsmen can re-adjust anyway .

On coaches votes he has 11 votes from 6 games. 10 votes came in 1 best on ground performance. In comparison to inside mids form other teams who have won about the same amount of games who don't get an arm chair ride from their ruckman:
Melb 3 wins - Moloney 35 votes
Rich 3 wins - Martin 24 votes
WB 2 wins - Boyd 28 votes
I think he has improved this year. But I am seeing a pattern develop that when teams sit on Kerr, and Priddis is free he really looks out of his depth. Sydney & Essendon games are a prime example.

Fair enough your entitled to that point of view. In regards to tap work its just not that easy and i know plenty of very talented footballers who dont read it as well as Priddis. His ability for first hands equates to an awful lot of clearances, balls put into teammates hands even if this doesnt equate to a clearance or simply for a 50/50 ball and another stoppage instead of clear bvall to the oppo.

As for votes i wasnt just thinking of this year but also in the past- thankfully we have a lot more contributors this year and others are taking votes, like Embley

Eagle87 · May 13, 2011

southjoy said:
My turn to LOL. It's a forum where from what ive read you are allow to "wander in" and pass comment. I'm also sure that it wasnt the but but but. I think i stated why i think he is very good at what he does and there are a lot of stats that support this.

Wandering in is a reference to people who state things that have been dismembered as valid arguments ad nauseum ..

For the record, stats suggest priddis was about equal to Judd last year. You want to suggest he was? Or do you reckon their are criteria beyond stats like "influence on game"; "ability to turn/win games"; "making those around you better" that seasoned football watchers might pick up on?

Tell you what though youll always see me listening to other peoples point of view with an open mind and with an ability to disagree without the need to being anoyminously rude about others point of view.

I am happy to be non-anonymously rude.

I listen to others points of view and see them expose their lack of intellect, lack of capacity to create cogent arguments and inability to grasp basic concepts.

There is a difference between listening and faking politeness, I cant be arsed with the latter.

10years plus watching Priddis puts you back into his development years and further back than when I saw him come into Colts

Correct, it does.

southjoy · May 13, 2011

Eagle87 said:
Wandering in is a reference to people who state things that have been dismembered as valid arguments ad nauseum ..

For the record, stats suggest priddis was about equal to Judd last year. You want to suggest he was? Or do you reckon their are criteria beyond stats like "influence on game"; "ability to turn/win games"; "making those around you better" that seasoned football watchers might pick up on?

I am happy to be non-anonymously rude.

I listen to others points of view and see them expose their lack of intellect, lack of capacity to create cogent arguments and inability to grasp basic concepts.
There is a difference between listening and faking politeness, I cant be arsed with the latter.

Correct, it does.

Wow! My apologies sounds to me like youve coached afair amount of quality football. I stand in deference as my inability to understand football must fall below your standards.
Dismembered as valid arguments - except by the AFL coaching fraternity

The Dodger · May 13, 2011

Trouto said:
Steel, i think this would be a waste of your time. Priddis could win the next three Brownlow's and there would be people on this site that say "Ploddis didnt get that handball on target last Saturday, axe him". I guess when you have got long curly hair, people either love you or hate you.

3 Brownlow's? That is setting the bar high, FWIW I would cut him some slack if he could win 1.
I can say without doubt though that he would be the worst triple bronwlow medal winner ever

Eagle87 · May 14, 2011

southjoy said:
Wow! My apologies sounds to me like youve coached afair amount of quality football. I stand in deference as my inability to understand football must fall below your standards.
Dismembered as valid arguments - except by the AFL coaching fraternity

Again your argument fails to rise above "but the coaches blah blah blah..." ...

Eagle87 · May 16, 2011