Working from home, good/bad?

[HirdsTheWord]

Australians are scared easily so dont quit. We just threaten it and get more money. That is kind of the point of the producticity commissions findings

People dont quit, they just work less and perform poorly. The employee rights then basically mean they can do this without much retribution and just becomes what winds up being a circle of s**t where neither side gets a great outcome

In the end we disagree on which end of the wheel is meant to fix the problem. I think its up to the employer to motivate the staff to perform better not up to the staff to perform better cos they got paid 5k more then they should

i dont think this is accurate.

Plenty of people quit jobs during COVID to find lifestyle options that worked for them. Didn't you hear about the "great resignation"?

And outside of the last period with services inflation Australia has had almost a 10-year stagnation in wage growth.

Life works in cycles. Sometimes economic conditions benefit employees. Sometimes it benefits employers. Buyers' market / sellers' market. Thats how it always has and always will work.

We have just come off 2-3 years of what is an employee's market where employees hold more power due to labor shortages in a hot economy, as the economy slows and the labor market is less tight, we now will enter a time where employers have more power.

 

[Gralin]

Money is the primary driver as always, but it's company profits that will always be the driver.

For example, major banks are one of the biggest tenants of commercial space in the country, combined they would have hundreds of thousands of leased office space. They would save ALOT of money if they went to a full WFH but they seem to be pushing for half office half WFH space time because they have seen measurable improvements in office-based time, which they think will give them increased profits beyond what full time WFH would.

Flexibility is the key it seems. I think that is the new norm.

hundreds of billions in value was going to be wiped from commercial real estate in cities all over the world

they're not going to let that happen when they still have a say

what things look like in 10 years time will be interesting

the pandemic showed that a lot of jobs don't need to involve hours of commute each week

 

[HirdsTheWord]

hundreds of billions in value was going to be wiped from commercial real estate in cities all over the world

they're not going to let that happen when they still have a say

what things look like in 10 years time will be interesting

the pandemic showed that a lot of jobs don't need to involve hours of commute each week

Thats why i said flexibility is here to stay?

Flexibility isn't doing only what one party wants. Its doing what works for both the employer and the employee want to meet a common objective.

If people really have an issue of going into the office 50% of the time, then i dont think that's really being flexible. I'd say that's pretty bloody reasonable compared to where most workplaces were less than 5 years ago.

 

[burge13]

If this is the work of AI, I think we're decades away from it replacing us. How bloody stupid is this

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/terrifying-ai-prediction-of-what-wfh-employees-will-look-like-in-25-years/news-story/f51cbba0359fa08c52fa3765c98e7831

"spending all day inside causes a lack of vitamin D and staring at a screen for long periods causing strain on the eyes" - oh so you mean like being in the office? Only this way at home you get an extra hour or 2 to go outside and exercise rather than commute?

Incredible how people are falling for this PR s**t from commercial property owners tbh. Hint - they don't want you back in the office for your own good

 

[ioppolo]

If this is the work of AI, I think we're decades away from it replacing us. How bloody stupid is this

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/terrifying-ai-prediction-of-what-wfh-employees-will-look-like-in-25-years/news-story/f51cbba0359fa08c52fa3765c98e7831

"spending all day inside causes a lack of vitamin D and staring at a screen for long periods causing strain on the eyes" - oh so you mean like being in the office? Only this way at home you get an extra hour or 2 to go outside and exercise rather than commute?

Incredible how people are falling for this PR s**t from commercial property owners tbh. Hint - they don't want you back in the office for your own good

I know plenty of people who look just like that now.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

I know plenty of people who look just like that now.

 

[muntas]

In my experience I am in favour of teleworking.

 

[The 747]

Been working from home since 2016. Works for me!

 

[PenAndPaper]

Started a hybrid WFH arrangement a month ago and it has honestly been amazing. I don't think I could permanently work from home as I do need that direct social interaction that you get in the office but having even 2 days a week to WFH has been amazing for productivity both at work and around the house, mental health and socialising outside of work hours.

 

[burge13]

The people are getting some flexibility and rights. Quick get the hit pieces out to protect commercial property billionaires

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/work-from-home-debacle-stranded-700000-airline-passengers/news-story/4d3c1546f0cb8d1a778884a4f8f4ba6f

 

[The 747]

Started a hybrid WFH arrangement a month ago and it has honestly been amazing. I don't think I could permanently work from home as I do need that direct social interaction that you get in the office but having even 2 days a week to WFH has been amazing for productivity both at work and around the house, mental health and socialising outside of work hours.

Fully at home doesn't work for some. One of my friends would rather work in a cafe than at home because they like to have people round.

 

[RU_]

New job and I have a flex work lifestyle of 3 days office and 2 days from home.

One of my coworkers has a tea in their hand 3 quarters of the day and ******* slurps it when drinking it.

It’s actually killing me. I’ve found my nails down the chalkboard equivalent.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

New job and I have a flex work lifestyle of 3 days office and 2 days from home.

One of my coworkers has a tea in their hand 3 quarters of the day and ******* slurps it when drinking it.

It’s actually killing me. I’ve found my nails down the chalkboard equivalent.

Can't wait to see the quirks of my new office on Monday.

2 in office, 3 from home. I'll be doing most in the office to start, but man its going to be tough dealing with a new group of people

 

[ash_1050]

New job and I have a flex work lifestyle of 3 days office and 2 days from home.

One of my coworkers has a tea in their hand 3 quarters of the day and ******* slurps it when drinking it.

It’s actually killing me. I’ve found my nails down the chalkboard equivalent.

A former housemate of mine used to chew his food in way where he smacked his lips when doing so. Absolutely could not be in the same room with him when he was eating. No jury could find you guilty in the event you one day just snapped after putting up with those sorts of grievances.

 

[the_interloper]

New job and I have a flex work lifestyle of 3 days office and 2 days from home.

One of my coworkers has a tea in their hand 3 quarters of the day and ******* slurps it when drinking it.

It’s actually killing me. I’ve found my nails down the chalkboard equivalent.

I used to work with someone who did that, he also liked to do an "aaaah" at the end of his sips, drove me up the bloody wall.

Currently I have a co worker who sits next to me and likes to talk to himself, thank god for my noise-cancelling headphones!

 

[RU_]

I used to work with someone who did that, he also liked to do an "aaaah" at the end of his sips, drove me up the bloody wall.

Currently I have a co worker who sits next to me and likes to talk to himself, thank god for my noise-cancelling headphones!

Might be the same person, also finishes the sips with an ‘aaaah’, but that part doesn’t bother me as much!

 

[burge13]

I used to work with someone who did that, he also liked to do an "aaaah" at the end of his sips, drove me up the bloody wall.

Currently I have a co worker who sits next to me and likes to talk to himself, thank god for my noise-cancelling headphones!

I sit inbetween 2 people who talk to themselves. They talk to themselves more than others which is truly bizarre

"How was your weekend?"
"Good" and turns away

Talking to themselves about a problem "whats going on here, lets look at this why isnt it working. Oh thats not it, go back..."

Wtf, if you want a chat dont be weird in conversations or stfu completely surely