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It is becoming a concerning and worrying trend. Now, for the year, we look like so with clearances against our opposition:
Rnd 1 v Richmond: +7
Rnd 2 v Brisbane: +10
Rnd 3 v Collingwood: +18
Rnd 4 v Essendon: -3
Rnd 5 v Fremantle: -10
Rnd 6 v GWS: -13
TOTAL: +9

Big difference between our first three weeks (great form) to our last 3 weeks (OK form).
 
We just need to keep winning the next 6 -7 weeks even if it looks a bit ugly and when Carrazzo back and Warnock Rucking maybe we be at our best. Hampson and Waite up forward and Kreuzer as another big man playing as a Ruck Rover.
 
mediumsizered said:
Clearance stats need to looked at in perspective.

With the way the game is played now, many clearances are just indiscriminate kicks or handballs out of a pack. Of more importance is the next possession after the clearance. That is why you can lose the clearances & still win a game.
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:thumbsu: Great point, they should keep stats like clearances to advantage vs clearances resulting in a turnover etc.

Indiscriminate kicks out of congestion usually fall into the waiting arms of the oppositions loose man across half back and often result in scores the other way because of this as the good teams control the ball from there.
 
WALKERTOBETTS said:
My observation is horses for courses, the only 2 issues are the one touch skills??? and how hard are our players running off the ball either to cover link ups or to spread??? some teams like to play in tight, some teams like to spread, round 3 we spread, colliewobbles like to play tight on their terms, freo like to spread on subi ground, we played tight??
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said it once and i'll say it again...these were bad by foot and hands they weren't clean.. when you start being cute and don't respect the opposition, then targets aren't honoured and predictability goes out the window.
 

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It starts in the ruck. Too many times when our guys got their hands on the ball first, they hit it to where the opposition wants it to go. Special and Hammer are equally guilty.

Whether that's poor technique, positioning, or body strength I'll leave to the experts.
 
We're 5 and 1, have a different 5 in our best every week, have showed we can win without it being the Judd & Murphy show, have a decent spread of goalkickers, shown we have depth to cover injuries (29 have played seniors so far) and sit second on the ladder by percentage.

Gunna be terrific when it all clicks. :rolleyes:
 
AlecDuncan said:
It starts in the ruck. Too many times when our guys got their hands on the ball first, they hit it to where the opposition wants it to go. Special and Hammer are equally guilty.

Whether that's poor technique, positioning, or body strength I'll leave to the experts.
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Its not just ruckmen at fault here, your onballers and midfielders have to be running to the right spot as well. You can hit the ball to where the play is meant to go but if your runners arent moving - and ours havent been - then you wont get the clearance. Blaming the ruckmen alone is cheap.
 
1. Carrazzo is a HUGE loss
2. We win most taps - and all too often opponents get the ball - very obvious.
3. Judd has brains strength and skill to get ball ( Curnow Robinson have strength but lack Carrazzo/Judd skill)

4. Clearances are #1 issue for Carlton as we are unbeatable with clean fast ball - but without feed - our spread and speed become meaningless ( see Essendon/Fremantle games)

Until we fix clearances we will look ordinary against swarming game plans.

5. Next almost equal issue - is % behinds versus entries into 50 - I woudl say 1/3rd of these one pointers are set shot inadequacies ( walker will help here) and silly showboating.

Fix clearances and % behinds will fall is my prediction.
 
Reckon Armfield might have a spell this week? He ran the game out but that knee of his looked like it copped another jolt.
 
The_Wookie said:
Its not just ruckmen at fault here, your onballers and midfielders have to be running to the right spot as well. You can hit the ball to where the play is meant to go but if your runners arent moving - and ours havent been - then you wont get the clearance. Blaming the ruckmen alone is cheap.
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I'd blame the onballers too, but I don't think the taps *are* going where they're meant to. I think our guys are being "guided" by the opposition rucks into tapping the ball where they want, with smart bodywork and positioning.

You can see our rucks tapping the ball in the same direction as where their opponents are aiming. We can't both be aiming for the same targets.
 
Just lacking quality on the ball. Judd and Murphy are good here, Carrazzo was great and with him going the way he was going we were going well in this area. Now he's out we have a hole exposed in this area. We recruited Mclean for this purpose and wasted a decent draft pick on a player we grosely over rated which will always annoy me but what's done is done. Maybe we should be playing Mclean while we have an easy run. At least it might give him trade value and we might get something out of him. Just need a player with skill, size, strength, hardness and fittness who is an instinctive onball player. Really hard to find though, I'm hoping Buckley has a similar impact to Fyfe next year and can play a role in our side but that's next year. Really can't see us improving in this area until Carrazzo returns. If we are going to try any one it would be interesting to try Yarran or Touhy in this role but Yarran is injured and we'd be robbing the backline which is the area of the ground responsible for our success. When the season ends i am betting Warnock will be looking for a new home, we should be gearing up to snag a good clearance player from someone. If we could snag a Kennedy, Swallow, Priddis or Thompson type we'd probably win a flag.
 

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It is embarrassing to watch.

We are losing entirely due to our game plan. I have been saying this all year the press Ratten has copied is outdated and he needs to copy what teams are now doing, which is a much softer press.

What was very concerning is unlike everyone at the ground who can see what North in the last praccy game, essendon and now the saints did which is:

- Let carlton press when they have a dead ball situation in the carlton foward line
- Push your fwds up as far as you want as all carltons defenders will follow including our spare man
- Wait for Carltons lose man who for some reason position himself in front of the wall rather than behind it
- When win ball kick over the top and burst.

We are pressing far far to high and our loose man is setting up way to close to the play, he should be behind the last fwd.

Maybe Ratten cannot see this because he is at ground level but it is cring worthy watching it.

Any team with decent small fwds that shows up to play will beat us unless we adjust.
 
AlecDuncan said:
I'd blame the onballers too, but I don't think the taps *are* going where they're meant to. I think our guys are being "guided" by the opposition rucks into tapping the ball where they want, with smart bodywork and positioning.

You can see our rucks tapping the ball in the same direction as where their opponents are aiming. We can't both be aiming for the same targets.
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Guys our defensive structures are the issue, scoring is not a problem.
 
Shit, I thought this thread was gonna be about those young guys wearing those bloody tight jeans that look like they're painted on.......you know the ones.....there'll be a sperm shortage in a few years time....;)

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Since when did we switch from no Judd no Carlton to no Carazzo no Carlton? Lol haven't won clearances since he got injured, cooincidence?
 

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It was only Melbourne but they put up a good effort and had a real crack I thought. I recon we might come out stronger for having to play without Carrazzo and Murphy, Just like it did when Henderson was finally moved back in the absence of Jamison.

It could be the making of Robinson and Mclean with them being two of the main starting onballers for a while and when Murphy and Carrazzo return we might find we are stronger and better for it. Would love to see Touhy played onball too.
 
reg_lower91 said:
Good to see us get on top of the opposition in the clearances again. Absolutely smashed them 53-25.
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I'd be interested to hear people's opinion regarding Warnock's influence on this. Someone also mentioned that they thought Brock just seemed in the right positions as well.
 
Ive been saying it for weeks. Hampson and Kreuzer havent been bad ruckmen, its our mids that have been out of position. They've been getting owned and pushed around by other mids and they arent where they are supposed to be as a result. Mclean and others were right where they were supposed to be - even when Hammer was rucking in the forward line.
 

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