Really. Provide some examples for us who are interested. Are you sure you are not mixing him up with Worsfold?Byron Picket would never go when it was his turn... Thats the definition of a tough player to me. You can pick off vulnerable head over the ball opponents all you like but if you continuously squib hard contests where you are the vulnerable one you''ll be remembered as a sniper. Pickett was one of the best examples of this.