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Escude said:
Who do you think have the worst list of kids in the AFL? Adelaide for me, by a mile :)

If you actually knew what you were talking about then this might be a worthwhile thread, but you are just a port troll obsessed with Adelaide therefore your opinion doesnt mean jack
 
darrend05 said:
adelaide cows have by far the worst group of youngsters,no rising stars no nothing......
they are going to be a bottom side real quick with all their best players being old...............

Receiving a rising star nomination just means you have played basically a full game on the field and had 20+ possessions, not that you are a great player! Don't get me wrong, some great players have been nominated in the past, however players like Matthew Lokan, Ty Zantuck, Karl Norman, Guy Richards haven't exactly become super stars!! Most rising star nominations go on to be your stock standard average player.
 
Crow Chick said:
Receiving a rising star nomination just means you have played basically a full game on the field and had 20+ possessions, not that you are a great player! Don't get me wrong, some great players have been nominated in the past, however players like Matthew Lokan, Ty Zantuck, Karl Norman, Guy Richards haven't exactly become super stars!! Most rising star nominations go on to be your stock standard average player.

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[U]2006 Nominees[/U]    
 
Rd 1 - Marc Murphy (Carlton)
Rd 2 - Dale Thomas (Collingwood)
Rd 3 - Danyle Pearce (Port Adelaide)
Rd 4 - Andrew Raines (Richmond)
Rd 5 - Heath Shaw (Collingwood)
Rd 6 - Dean Polo (Richmond)
Rd 7 - Clint Bartram (Melbourne)
Rd 8 - Michael Rischitelli (Brisbane Lions)
Rd 9 - Brad Symes (Port Adelaide)
Rd 10 - Matt Rosa (West Coast Eagles)
Rd 11 - Jacob Surjan (Port Adelaide)
Rd 12- Clinton Young (Hawthorn)
Rd 13 - Cheynee Stiller (Brisbane Lions)
Rd 14 - Grant Birchall (Hawthorn)
Rd 15 - Matthew Moody (Brisbane Lions)
Rd 16 - Troy Chaplin (Port Adelaide)
Rd 17 - Andrew Swallow (Kangaroos)
Rd 18 - Matthew Bate (Melbourne)
Rd 19 - Nathan Foley (Richmond)

[U]2005 Nominations   [/U] 
 
Rd 1 - Kepler Bradley (Essendon)
Rd 2 - Shannon Byrnes (Geelong)
Rd 3 - Brock McLean (Melbourne)
Rd 4 - Lance Franklin (Hawthorn)
Rd 5 - Jason Laycock (Essendon)
Rd 6 - Justin Sherman (Brisbane Lions)
Rd 7 - Will Minson (Western Bulldogs)
Rd 8 - Brett Deledio(Richmond)
 Rd 9 - Colin Sylvia (Melbourne)
Rd 10 - Travis Cloke (Collingwood)
Rd 11 - Jordan Lewis (Hawthorn)
Rd 12 - Jed Adcock (Brisbane Lions)
Rd 13 - Ryan Griffen (W. Bulldogs)
Rd 14 - David Mundy (Fremantle)
Rd 15 - Troy Selwood (Brisbane Lions)
Rd 16 - Adam Selwood (West Coast)
 Rd 17 - Anthony Corrie (Brisbane Lions)
Rd 18 - Kade Simpson (Carlton)
Rd 19 - Jarryd Roughead (Hawthorn)
Rd 20 - Adam Bentick (Carlton)
Rd 21 - Nathan Ablett (Geelong)
Rd 22 - Raphael Clarke (St Kilda)  
  
[U]2004 Nominations [/U]   
 
R22 Brent Hartigan (Richmond)
R21 Adam Cooney(Western Bulldogs)
R20 Brent Stanton (Essendon)
R19 Daniel Cross (Western Bulldogs)
R18 Beau Walters (West Coast Eagles)
R17 Sam Butler (West Coast Eagles)
 R16 Guy Richards (Collingwood)
R15 Brent Reilly (Adelaide)
R14 Mark Seaby (West Coast)
R13 Jay Schulz (Richmond)
R12 Karl Norman (Carlton)
R11 Richard Hadley (Brisbane Lions)
R10 Brett Ebert (Port Adelaide)
R9 Brent Moloney (Geelong)
R8 Andrew Mackie (Geelong)
R7 Brent Staker (West Coast Eagles)
R6 Kane Tenace (Geelong)
R5 Andrew Walker (Carlton)
R4 Paul Bevan (Sydney)
R3 Jared Rivers (Melbourne)
R2 Michael Firrito (Kangaroos)
R1 Aaron Davey (Melbourne)
 
[U]2003 Nominations   [/U] 

R22 Ashley McGrath (Brisbane) / Matthew Lokan (Collingwood)
R21 Andrew McDougall (West Coast Eagles) 
R20 Leigh Montagna (St Kilda) 
R19 Marc Bullen (Essendon)
R18 Lewis Roberts-Thomson (Sydney)
R17 Richard Cole (Collingwood)
R16 Daniel Motlop (Kangaroos)
R15 Ted Richards (Essendon)
R14 Aaron Sandilands (Fremantle)
R13 Byron Schammer (Fremantle)
R12 Brad Fisher (Carlton)
R11 Daniel Wells (Kangaroos)
R10 Jarrad Waite (Carlton)
R9 Graham Polak (Fremantle)
R8 Ashley Sampi (West Coast Eages)
R7 Brendon Goddard (St Kilda)
R6 Michael Osborne (Hawthorn)
R5 Adam Schneider (Sydney)
R4 Jared Brennan (Brisbane Lions)
R3 Trent Sporn (Carlton)
R2 Luke Ball (St Kilda)
R1 Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn)
 
[U]2002 Nominations   [/U] 
 
R1 Paul Medhurst (Fremantle)
R2 Chris Judd (West Coast Eagles) 
R3 Steven Armstrong (Melbourne) 
R4 James Bartel (Geelong)
R5 Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda)
R6 Jason Cloke (Collingwood)
R7 Xavier Clarke (St Kilda)
R8 David Rodan (Richmond)
 R9 Shane Birss (Western Bulldogs)
R10 Mark McGough (Collingwood)
R11 Ryan Hargrave (Western Bulldogs)
R12 James Kelly (Geelong)
R13 Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adelaide)
R14 Mark Coughlan (Richmond)
R15 Luke Hodge (Hawthorn)
R16 Alan Didak (Collingwood)
 R17 Nick Ries (Hawthorn)
R18 Jordan McMahon (Western Bulldogs)
R19 Tadhg Kennelly (Sydney)
R20 Ty Zantuck (Richmond)
R21 Jamie Charman (Brisbane Lions)
R22 Campbell Brown (Hawthorn)
 

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Crow Chick said:
Receiving a rising star nomination just means you have played basically a full game on the field and had 20+ possessions, not that you are a great player! Don't get me wrong, some great players have been nominated in the past, however players like Matthew Lokan, Ty Zantuck, Karl Norman, Guy Richards haven't exactly become super stars!! Most rising star nominations go on to be your stock standard average player.


who looks like an idiot now.
if you are going to comment at least make it look like you know what you are talking about.
crow chick, maybe you should stick to netball............
 
Yeah, Matthew Lokan, Michael Osborne, Mark McGough, Andrew McDougall, Marc Bullen, Richard Cole, Brent Hartigan ..... being a rising star nomination guarantees you'll develop into a good-quality AFL footballer.
 
relapse said:
If you actually knew what you were talking about then this might be a worthwhile thread, but you are just a port troll obsessed with Adelaide therefore your opinion doesnt mean jack

Why dont you name your youngsters.Van Berlo the world beater, John Meesen the best ruckman in the competition, Darren Pffeifer, Alan Obst, Brent Reilly.Wow quality all around :)
 
Why is Essendon even in this poll? i reckon we have a good list of youngsters NLM Monfries Stanton Johns Watson Nash Bradley Ryder Slattery Lovett to name some. Anyways i reckon Roos have the worst list of kids
 
rick James said:
With Hawthorn, I rate thier young forwards very highly, not so much their midfield.
That's because our 2 drafted midfielders - you could probably add Birchall (the pick of the 2005 draft) to the list, Ellis and Muston are on ice.

ONce these 3 come into their own, IMO we will have the best list of kids in the league.

With these sort of questions you need to look at where the teams need balance, the Hawks for example already have a good young'ish midfield group - Campbell - 23, Sewell - 22, Mitchell - 22, Hodge - 22, Bailey - 18, Birchall - 18, Young - 19, Bateman - 22 and Lewis - 19.

So with an eye to the next 4-5 years we only really need to change Crawford and Everitt, we only really needed a couple of outside midfielders to compliment this pretty strong list - Ellis and Muston.

In contrast, for a number of years we have had a problems in the defence and attacking KP areas, hence the additions of Dowler, Franklin, Roughead etc. to the list.

Richmond have a sprinkling of talented youngsters all over the ground, I would rate them very close if not better then Melbourne.

IMO

Hawthorn
Melbourne = Richmond = Carlton
Brisbane
 
eorl said:
what about the bombers with Stanton Monfries Dyson Winderlich Nash Slattery Watson Ryder Lovett

that surely must be close to the best


Surely you jest. It's because of those names I voted the Bumbers the worst.
Stanton is solid and Monfries is a goer and has a big heart, and Watson is gutsy (if lacking in the skills dept.) but the rest on that list are either rubbish (Winderlich/Nash) or unproven - IE Ryder etc.
Slattery the jury's still out on him.
But basically only two players out of that group are sure to become stars IMO (Stanton and Monfries) - Watson will be solid but he just hasnt' got the skills to become an damaging player.
 
celtic_pride said:
Surely you jest. It's because of those names I voted the Bumbers the worst.
Stanton is solid and Monfries is a goer and has a big heart, and Watson is gutsy (if lacking in the skills dept.) but the rest on that list are either rubbish (Winderlich/Nash) or unproven - IE Ryder etc.
Slattery the jury's still out on him.
But basically only two players out of that group are sure to become stars IMO (Stanton and Monfries) - Watson will be solid but he just hasnt' got the skills to become an damaging player.
Staton is better than Walker you mean.
 
rick James said:
I've no doubt they have talent, just can't see them beating a midfeild of:

McLean, Jones, Bate, Bartram, Moloney, Johnson, Sylvia. . . that is as physically intimidating a midfield as you will find imo.

especially when you consider that Johnstone, Bruce, Green and Davey will still be around to feed off 'em.

:)

Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Ellis, Muston. Not a bad few either.
 

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Escude said:
Why dont you name your youngsters.Van Berlo the world beater, John Meesen the best ruckman in the competition, Darren Pffeifer, Alan Obst, Brent Reilly.Wow quality all around :)
Gonna have to agree with you VB however doesn't need to beat the world it whips itself into a nice cake in his honour.
 
boms said:
Why is Essendon even in this poll? i reckon we have a good list of youngsters NLM Monfries Stanton Johns Watson Nash Bradley Ryder Slattery Lovett to name some. Anyways i reckon Roos have the worst list of kids

Because Monfreis and Stanton are the only ones who have shown they could be anything more than a good player.
 
RogerRabbit69 said:
Yeah, Matthew Lokan, Michael Osborne, Mark McGough, Andrew McDougall, Marc Bullen, Richard Cole, Brent Hartigan ..... being a rising star nomination guarantees you'll develop into a good-quality AFL footballer.

Harto goes alright.

:mad:
 
eorl said:
what about the bombers with Stanton Monfries Dyson Winderlich Nash Slattery Watson Ryder Lovett

that surely must be close to the best

That's what I thought..
obviously a few people have clicked Essendon because the whole team isnt performing to thier best this season..
but when those young guys play,they can play..
Slattery is gonna be A GUN!
 

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CrazyQ said:
Staton is better than Walker you mean.

Yeah so collectively Carlton have a much more talented group of kids then Essendon and that is an establish fact, not opinion.
 
Sam the RAMA fan said:
That's what I thought..
obviously a few people have clicked Essendon because the whole team isnt performing to thier best this season..
but when those young guys play,they can play..
Slattery is gonna be A GUN!

Have you got any factual basis/stats to suggest that Slattery will be a gun player ?
Or are u just guessing or hoping using clairvoinacy (as Stephen J Peak would say)
I suspect the latter.
 
darrend05 said:
who looks like an idiot now.
if you are going to comment at least make it look like you know what you are talking about.
crow chick, maybe you should stick to netball............
Well you dont have to say anything, just having port on your avatar says that you have very little intelligence.
 
celtic_pride said:
Yeah so collectively Carlton have a much more talented group of kids then Essendon and that is an establish fact, not opinion.

That's not an established fact, it's a subjective opinion.

celtic_pride said:
Have you got any factual basis/stats to suggest that Slattery will be a gun player ?

He's beaten Nick Davis, Dal Santo, Davey (smashed him), Didak (not sure why he was ever moved off him) and performed well on Williams.

Stats don't support his claim because thus far he's played in defensive roles, he does use the ball well though and is good around goals. I know that, I've seen him.

Have you got anything to suggest he he won't be a good player?

Isn't this whole thread based on clairvoinacy?

Isn't that what you are doing when you say Watson will never be more than a solid footballer?

Have you seen Jay Nash play?
 

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