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Worst tail ever

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the english tail got 60 odd runs today, in the old days of cricket with the old bats the tail would've folded for nothing after siddle's hat-trick

"the rabbit" is a dying breed in test cricket - almost an extinct breed actually. most number 11s are number 11 because the number 10 was pushed down the order because the number 8 had his spot filled up by a number 7 (if that makes any sense). nowadays we have ben hilfenhaus, a guy built like a woodchopper getting the token 50.

a tremendous australian tail a few years back was mcgrath and macgill, nobody had any idea who to put for 11 on that lineup :) mcgrath batting at 10 called for some odd days in the australian tail, he was far more comfortable at 11

i can identify chris martin as the true rabbit in international cricket. bangladesh doesnt have a great 11. although they do rotate their lineup to find out who can play at international level.
 
Surely the best tail in test cricket history was when South Africa played Australia in the 3rd test of their 97/98 series at the Adelaide Oval:

8. Brian McMillan (test match batting average: 39.36)
9. Shaun Pollock (test match batting average: 32.31)
10. Lance Klusener (test match batting average: 32.86)
11. Pat Symcox (test match batting average: 28.50)

And just in that match they combined for 219 runs in the first innings (weren't required to bat in the second)
 

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Stuart MacGill used to send me into a completely irrational rage everytime he came out to bat. It was like he didn't care, he didn't want to even try and he thought it was a major inconvenince to have to bother padding up.

I know there were worse but by god he pissed me off.
 
alderman and mike whitney would have been in the same side at some point.

cast your mind back to some of the touring west indies sides post 2000...

jerome taylor, centurion with an average of just under 16. agarker won't play tests again but taylor has a chance to slip under his average.

australia v west indies, 1st test, bris 2005. bravo came in (i think) and ramdin went to #8 shortly after

darren powell 5.15
fidel edwards 4.09
corey collymore 9.13
jermaine lawson 3.46
 
someone must have been using him as their bat...

MacGill also had a match saving partnership with Michael Hussey in 2005 or 2006 in Australia.

In the interview afterwards, journos were asking him if he was scared and he said he didn't get nervous when he batted because he wasn't generally a nervous person and also because he knows he can't bat.

I never could work out how he was allowed in the Aus team with their obsession with the right face fitting, he was an obvious misfit what with his novel-reading and wine-drinking.
 
I'll help you with why MacGill got in the side.

He was a very good bowler.

That seems optional in the Australian side lately.

Macgill was one of the many, many very unlucky players of his generation that would have absolutely walked into this current side. He and many others had the misfortune to be around when we had an incredible embarrassment of riches.

As far as bad tails go - anything with Jim Higgs in it would win my vote. Jeez he was shocking with a bat in his hand.
 
#8 Siddle, #9 Doherty, #10 Hilfenhaus, #11 Bollinger.

The prospect of that keeps Johnson an automatic suggestion.

ps I'm sure MacGill has hung around a few times in shield/list a finals to win NSW the title.
 

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if the tailend batting was a concern we probably would have stuck with haurtiz, he's been comfortably better with the bat than johnson for over a year.

Last 18 or so tests Johnson averages about 12 or 13 with the bat.
 
He was in a partnership for almost 150? in the shield awhile back, so he isn't that bad
I think i was at that day, shortly after the Sydney test where Waugh got his famous ton from memory. NSW were dominant that day. Macgill just smacking runs everywhere.
edit - checked scorecards, different game, Waugh did get a ton however

Murali batted similar to that as well.

Martin has to be just about the worst bat of all time.

I also remember being at the SCG when Mcgrath once came in at nuymber 10, one of the biggest roars I've heard him receive!
 

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Siddle can hang around and score a few but yea I have no idea and don't expect much from the others. Thing is over the last couple of years the Aussie tail has actually done ok I think and kept us competitive despite the continued pathetic performances from our hopeless top/middle order.
 
Hilfy has a test 50 by the way. Averages 17, not too bad. Doherty and Siddle can hold up an end as well.

It wouldn't be a horrible tail, we've just been spoilt with bowlers like Warne, Lee and Gillespie who were decent batsmen.
 
#8 Siddle, #9 Doherty, #10 Hilfenhaus, #11 Bollinger.

The prospect of that keeps Johnson an automatic suggestion.

ps I'm sure MacGill has hung around a few times in shield/list a finals to win NSW the title.

Siddle and Doherty can actually hit a few. Hilfenhaus is a decent 10. :cool:
 
For much of the early '90s NSW had Wayne Holdsworth and Glenn McGrath at 10 and 11, who at one point collectively averaged less than 10. I can't remember who generally batted at 8 and 9 but that's a pretty good start.
 
Might nominate Zimbabwe's tail from 05. After Heath Streak at 8, the 3 after him were all hopeless.....Blessing Mahwire (who scored 147 runs in 17 knocks, one of which was a fluke 50), Graeme Cremer (test career av: 2.6) and Christopher Mpofu (test career av: 2.83). They were part of a side that got rolled for 54 by NZ (who themselves had Shane Bond and Chris Martin, both absolute bunnies).

Then there's the Windies bottom 4 from the 2000/2001 series. It started with Nixon McLean (av:12), Mervyn Dillon (av: 8 in both tests and FC), Marlon Black (av: 2 in tests, 6 in FC) and Courtney Walsh (7 average, 43 ducks). Colin Stuart (av: 3 in tests, 7 in FC) came in for an injured Black in Melbourne. It only slightly improved when Mahendra Nagamootoo (av: 15 in FC, 26 in tests) replaced an injured Dillon for Sydney.
 

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