Totally irrelevant, and to use it as an excuse is pathetic. Every club has top facilities and equal access to talent, yet not every club can be successful all the time. You don't give up on your club just because they have a few years of difficulty. It's pathetic.
We got Cunnington at pick 5, very good player, only one player ahead of him is better( Dusty)
DustyMorabbitto Pick 4
Both. The proposal in your scenario suggests we have said "Well Brad Scott didn't work out let's clean house and start again".Playing finals or contending?
There are people here who think that this list is good enough to play finals and be a top 4 H&A team and that for the first time Scotts has his own team/list and finally no excuses/reasons things didn't work out.
This whole 'bottoming out' is kind of bullshit imo.We've finished mid table for 20 years. We're not going anywhere in terms of success, and the club seems fairly stable off the field.
The club has always seen bottoming out as untenable considering the potential for supporters to drop off. But it's had us on the treadmill for 2 decades. Sydney, Geelong and Hawthorn have been the same, but they've had structural advnatges and success that has allowed them to bring in elite talent.
For every example of Melbourne and Gold Coast, there are far more examples where bringing in top end talent has worked. Just the last few premiers. Gaff, Kennedy (via Judd), Nat, Shuey. Martin, Riewoldt, Cotchin. Botempelli, Stringer, Boyd (via Griffin). Roughead, Lewis, Hodge. Im forgetting lots. These top end talents are the guts of premiership teams, and we really haven't got any (maybe Cunnington aside, I don't think Higgins is that).
We may not have a choice. This list may be bottom 3 bad anyway. But it may require us trading a good player or many for 1st rounders (Tarrant, Higgins).
I hate the idea of not competing for a flag every year, but free agency, trading and picking the eyes out of 2nd and 3rd round picks haven't worked. Hitting the top of the draft is the one thing we haven't tried. This isn't to suggest it will work, but it offers the clearest route back to contention for us.
If we re-orient the football department and coaches to develoment of young players, what level of support would you offer the club if they went down the patch of moving veterans on for picks and priortise development over wins?
**I'll assume most of us buy memberships. It's not a pubic poll.
Never said we were in the hunt for Dusty, what i said was that only one player taken before Cunnington turned out better than him.Dusty
We were never in the race for Dusty.
Freo ranked Moribito higher than Fyfe.
Dissecting a draft in hindsight is difficult because it's being done post development and does not fully consider junior performance.