Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - Ivermectin doesn't work either.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 5:

Covid-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/covid-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Doss]

No sympathy for the drug companies’ opposition to relaxing patents at all.

Biden’s made the sensible call there. Whether Europe follow suit is another matter.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Deaths are difficult to under-report, cases though - that's so easy to under report all they need to do is not get tested.

They are only reporting those who have died in hospital with a positive covid test in their figures.

 

[Dry Rot]

COVID vaccines are very effective and will open up overseas travel, or maybe not

Fully vaccinated travellers test positive in Sydney hotel quarantine

This comes as the mystery of how an eastern suburbs couple caught a COVID-19 infection brought into hotel quarantine by a US traveller remains unsolved.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Ok Boomer]

0 COVID deaths in England. First time in about 10 months.

 

[Catfish Alley]

COVID vaccines are very effective and will open up overseas travel, or maybe not

Fully vaccinated travellers test positive in Sydney hotel quarantine

This comes as the mystery of how an eastern suburbs couple caught a COVID-19 infection brought into hotel quarantine by a US traveller remains unsolved.

www.smh.com.au

I hate how they ran with that headline and then a few paragraphs later they say "oh yeah, they probably weren't fully vaccinated". Just looking for any angle they can to scare people.

 

[mcnulty]

0 COVID deaths in England. First time in about 10 months.

Slightly cautious as that’s probably a Sunday number, but they’ve been trending that way strongly.

Until recently the British Covid response has been a rolling clown show but credit where it’s due, their vaccine rollout has been outstanding.

 

[Seeds]

COVID vaccines are very effective and will open up overseas travel, or maybe not

Fully vaccinated travellers test positive in Sydney hotel quarantine

This comes as the mystery of how an eastern suburbs couple caught a COVID-19 infection brought into hotel quarantine by a US traveller remains unsolved.

www.smh.com.au

Do you understand what 95 percent effective means? It means 1 in 20 still get it if they come into contact. 95 percent still make it one of the most effective vaccines of all time.

 

[Seeds]

does the dramatic fall in israels infection rates suggest they are the first country to achieve herd immunity?

or is it just the end of winter effect?

 

[Catfish Alley]

I don’t think seasonality would have that big of an impact.

 

[Seeds]

I don’t think seasonality would have that big of an impact.

Except ofcourse the past 18 months shows it clearly has a major impact.

 

[swingdog]

does the dramatic fall in israels infection rates suggest they are the first country to achieve herd immunity?

or is it just the end of winter effect?

They're pretty much all vaccinated, right?

 

[Catfish Alley]

Except ofcourse the past 18 months shows it clearly has a major impact.

Going from around 8,000 cases a day to under 100 in a few months is pretty dramatic and seems to indicate something else though. Maybe that has happened in other countries with a a change of season. Are there reports of that? I’d be interested to see. Would love for it to happen here.

 

[eddiesmith]

I hate how they ran with that headline and then a few paragraphs later they say "oh yeah, they probably weren't fully vaccinated". Just looking for any angle they can to scare people.

They were two other cases last month who caught it within 14 days of their second dose, so the other cases were supposedly all fully vaccinated...

Try reading it properly before you call it wrong...

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

They were two other cases last month who caught it within 14 days of their second dose, so the other cases were supposedly all fully vaccinated...

Try reading it properly before you call it wrong...

Does the vaccine know how to tell the time and date? I would have thought immunity levels would be as infinitely variable as humans are from each other.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

They're pretty much all vaccinated, right?

I think they went real hard on the vaccinations straight away. I noticed that when most countries had given around 1 million jabs they were at 20 million.

 

[swingdog]

I think they went real hard on the vaccinations straight away. I noticed that when most countries had given around 1 million jabs they were at 20 million.

I think it's only a few ultra-orthodox communities holding out. Israel also has a vaccination passport system which has helped drive uptake.

 

[Pessimistic]

I hate how they ran with that headline and then a few paragraphs later they say "oh yeah, they probably weren't fully vaccinated". Just looking for any angle they can to scare people.

‘they probably caught it in hotel quarantine, like the guy who tested positive after 2 weeks in quarantine

why isn’t this at the top of the list.HQ not only isn’t working, it’s causing infections

 

[HTT]

Victorian man’s test result confirmed as positive

Victoria will see no new restrictions after a man tested positive for coronavirus on Tuesday morning but Victoria’s chief health officer Brett Sutton has warned against complacency.

www.news.com.au

This guy was able to dodge coronavirus in India, return home to Australia, and then caught it in HQ.

So is the issue India or hotel quarantine?

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

The only answer is to extend hotel quarantine to a month instead of two weeks.

 

[Pessimistic]

The only answer is to extend hotel quarantine to a month instead of two weeks.

that means uninfected people have more exposure to infection?

 

[Evolved1]

The only answer is to extend hotel quarantine to a month instead of two weeks.

Just close us off to the rest of the world and be done with it. I can visit Springvale instead of Vietnam.

 

[PP34]

They were two other cases last month who caught it within 14 days of their second dose, so the other cases were supposedly all fully vaccinated...

Try reading it properly before you call it wrong...

Where are people getting this idea from that vaccines are meant to completely stop anyone from getting the virus once vaccinated?

That is never how they have worked. The flu vaccine does not work like that.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Do you understand what 95 percent effective means? It means 1 in 20 still get it if they come into contact. 95 percent still make it one of the most effective vaccines of all time.

The AstraZeneca vaccine was found to have a 62% efficacy in trials which equates to about a real world effectiveness of about 50%.

 

[Catfish Alley]

The benefit of that one is the storage temperature. Much easier to roll-out at high volume.

 

[HTT]

The only answer is to extend hotel quarantine to a month instead of two weeks.

Negative pressure rooms in HQ is a start - this is already in place in Victoria.
Giving any unvaccinated travellers their first dose of the vaccine would also be a good idea. It won’t provide full protection, but it will provide decent protection towards the end of their 14 days, which is when an infection would be let out into the public.
The next step would be dedicated outdoor facilities, though this is not feasible everywhere.